MovieChat Forums > Costumer
Costumer (1793)
Posts
Cannolis!
This is not Immaculate Conctption
Impulse Control episode airing 4/18/22
Refusing to meet the challenge
View all posts >
Replies
Prove it. Find me a reference to plot whole. I've tried. I cannot find one. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of definitions for plot hole. I cannot find one for plot whole.
And I might add, what makes a plot not whole? The meaning of plot hole is, in general, a gap or inconsistency in the story.
Example: At the beginning of the story it is established that the protagonist is allergic to peanuts. Later in the story the protagonist is eating peanuts without an issue.
Example: At the beginning of the film is a scene which establishes character A cannot swim. Later in the film character A swims across a channel to rescue the hostage.
Example: A ship is sinking at sea. The captain dives into the water and tows the ship to safety. This hole is dependent on the story being set in the real world.
Often a plot hole can be fixed with a simple line of dialog or a scene. A mircale drug that cures allergies. A montage showing the character learning to swim.
Sometimes the problem is so egregious that it cannot be solved.
I should note, that fantasy, horror, and sf do not have plot holes due to depicting things which cannot happen in real life. In the sinking ship example above, if the film is a story set in a world with super powers, the hole does not exist. (unless it was established the captain does not have super powers.)
Show me a reference which defines plot whole. Not your personal belief, but evidence of its use. (Other than this thread) I will examine it.
Author of the Sodality Universe:
The Road fro Antioch
In the Markets of Tyre
Flight to Lystra
The Theater of Ephesus
The Council on Jerusalem
The Shattered World Series begins in 2025.
Ok, you realize that a reference to this discussion thread is meaningless, right? i would need a reference from outside this discussion. As I mentioned earlier if you google (or use duck duck go, which is my choice), the engines will not return a mention, definition, or acknowledgement of "plot whole." Thus my contention that the term used by DemBonesThemBone is incorrect and that there is not a term called "plot whole."
Author of the Sodality Universe:
The Road fro Antioch
In the Markets of Tyre
Flight to Lystra
The Theater of Ephesus
The Council on Jerusalem
The Shattered World Series begins in 2025.
I cannot find a single reference to "plot whole" anywhere. Can you. As I said above, if you can, and direct me to it, I will read it. Until then, since I see no evidence of the term actually being used anywhere, I will maintain my stance.
Author of the Sodality Universe:
The Road fro Antioch
In the Markets of Tyre
Flight to Lystra
The Theater of Ephesus
The Council on Jerusalem
The Shattered World Series begins in 2025.
You could ask, but the answer is clearly different. The Death Star was a military vessel intended to sow fear and terror. It is clearly a military target. And I doubt that there were many, if any, civilian personnel on board. How many civilians would you find on an air craft carrier? The few who might be trusted to be on a military vessel on a military (if unjustified) mission would be well versed in the mission and just as legitimately targetable.
Author of the Sodality Universe
The Road from Antioch
In the Markets of Tyre
Flight to Lystra
The Theater at Ephesus
The Council on Jerusalem
The Shattered World begins in 2025
While I agree with some of your comments, liscarkat, please don't disparage those of us in our 7th decade (or more) who do believe in an immortal soul. Personally, I think belief that death is the end is naive. No, I don't wish to debate it. Just keep in mind that people analyze things differently and we should all respect them, regardless of our own beliefs.
Author of the Sodality Universe
The Road from Antioch
In the Markets of Tyre
Flight to Lystra
The Theater at Ephesus
The Council on Jerusalem
The Shattered World begins in 2025
Even the greatest saints suffered temptations. And sometimes even succumbed to them. Saints (whether you define them in religious terms or humanistic terms) are human beings.
Author of the Sodality Universe
The Road from Antioch
In the Markets of Tyre
Flight to Lystra
The Theater at Ephesus
The Council on Jerusalem
The Shattered World begins in 2025
He did not demote himself. He was demoted for his actions by a review board. They showed the board in action. Afterwards, Burnham requested he serve as her first officer.
Author of the Sodality Universe
The Road from Antioch
In the Markets of Tyre
Flight to Lystra
The Theater at Ephesus
The Council on Jerusalem
The Shattered World begins in 2025
I suggest you do a google or similar search. The term is "plot hole." The term plot whole will return definitions for "plot hole." This is a common error.
Author of the Sodality Universe:
The Road fro Antioch
In the Markets of Tyre
Flight to Lystra
The Theater of Ephesus
The Council on Jerusalem
The Shattered World Series begins in 2025.
The term is "plot hole," that is a hole or error in the plot.
Author of the Sodality Universe:
The Road fro Antioch
In the Markets of Tyre
Flight to Lystra
The Theater of Ephesus
The Council on Jerusalem
The Shattered World Series begins in 2025.
No.
Author of the Sodality Universe:
The Road fro Antioch
In the Markets of Tyre
Flight to Lystra
The Theater of Ephesus
The Council on Jerusalem
The Shattered World Series begins in 2025.
View all replies >