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Now that's how you job-hunt. Americans of today could use a lesson.


If you want a job....go get one. Man, have times changed. Now people whine and cry, blame their problems on others, and sit at home collecting government handouts.

The best part of this movie was how Kramer needed a new job....he said he'd get one in 24 hours....and that's exactly what he did.

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It's so funny how time changes our perception of things. I first watched this film while in college back in the early '90s. I think at that time I thought of it as a Me Generation, yuppie, issue-of-the-week melodrama about self-righteous people getting in touch with their feelings, something along the lines of then-popular primal scream therapy. I'm not sure what colored my impressions at the time, but I was so wrong!

Re-watching the film this weekend, I was struck by how little of it I remembered, and how strongly it now resonated with me. It's actually a reactionary piece against feminism. And while Streep's character is very human, she is not very sympathetic either. Hoffman's Ted, on the other hand, is admirable in ways I think only parents could understand.

I loved that declaration: "I'll have a job in 24 hours." Even if he had failed, we know he would be back doing the same thing on Monday. He wasn't about to let anyone else control his life via his neediness in that moment. He read the situation, made a game plan and did it. How cool is that? How often do we see this in movies today?

I sat watching that, in admiration of Ted, asking myself, "could I do that? WOULD I do that?" That's an elevating thing that good movies can make us do. I wish more did.

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I just don't see how he got another professional job that fast. I'm sorry, but in the real world, you wouldn't get a nice job like that in a day's time just from looking in the classified ads of the newspaper. Jobs like that usually come available to people they know and not to a newspaper want ad!

But if it is reality, hey, I applaud Ted for pulling himself up by his bootstraps and not sitting on his ass feeling sorry for himself!

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It helped that he was overqualified and willing to take a big pay cut.

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Ahh - in 1977, I, a housewife, had to get a job because my husband got an incurable illness. In those days we had newspapers, with want ads. There were at least 30 jobs I was qualified for and I applied for at least ten, went on interviews, picked one, and one of the others called me at home and begged me to take his job so I did. That job took me two days to get and only because I decided to go with the one that called me. I had already accepted the other one and had to cancel it. It was easy back then. I had that job for about ten years and we used to get 10% raises plus extra money at Xmas. The pay was not great but after a few years the raises made it acceptable. Yes, it was a different time.

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Well, I could be wrong, but didn't he see a headhunter who gave him the lead? That could happen today very easily.

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You remembered correctly, he had a headhunter/recruiter.



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"sit at home collecting government handouts" I see what you did there. You used a fictional movie about a man in an extreme emotional moment who does something he wouldn't normally do, to make a political point about 'personal responsibility' and the 'good old days.' It's a good thing we had the Reagan Revolution because before him the liberals and Jimmy Carter didn't instill any of those values. Oh wait. This movie was made in 1979 when Carter was still prez. Woops.

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"sit at home collecting government handouts" I see what you did there. You used a fictional movie about a man in an extreme emotional moment who does something he wouldn't normally do, to make a political point about 'personal responsibility' and the 'good old days.' It's a good thing we had the Reagan Revolution because before him the liberals and Jimmy Carter didn't instill any of those values. Oh wait. This movie was made in 1979 when Carter was still prez. Woops.

I don't like injecting politics into movies. But in this case, it's kind of hard not too, and I think my point is valid. In America today, 106 million people are on welfare, and 114 million people work. It was refreshing to see a guy, even if it's just in a fictional movie, doing what it took to get a job that fast. This is something we'd never even see in a movie today!

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Please, tell me. Where is the motivation for modern men and boys to even think well of themselves - let alone, serve the greater good?? Where are the rewards? You want to blame someone for causing the downfall of our culture, blame feminism. They influenced generations of women like Joanna to stab generations of men and boys in the back. They threw out a working support network for the real slave labor in human history, men. Instead of inspiring men and boys to better themselves, single mothers or man-hating mothers became narcissistic and bitter toward anything male, making boys feel ashamed and unworthy simply for having a penis. They became savage without proud men (like fathers of the 1950s) to guide them. That's why the Teds of the world are in shorter and shorter supply. It's an overload of Joannas. Sorry.

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hat's why the Teds of the world are in shorter and shorter supply. It's an overload of Joannas.
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Women, DO NOT want to see men doing the same things they get most of the praise for, and then doing a better job of it like Ted Kramer. It only compounds and frustrates their insecurities even more.

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I've seen that happen. Men start taking over women's roles in the home and they start getting good and proud. All of a sudden, women start pushing back, fighting for their natural right to be the housekeepers and mothers.

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The OP's post is nonsense. This is fiction. "Ted" didn't do anything because Ted does not exist in the real world. In 1979 when this film came out, the economy was crap and the job market was awful. He would not have gotten that job so quickly.

But, hey, I'm sure it plays into your dystopian fantasy of a lazy workforce sitting around chewing the fat on welfare so you can feel good about voting for people like Donald Trump and Mitch McConnell who show open contempt, and even hatred, towards the poor.

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Yeah, just an old guy sitting around thinking the economy is still the way it was in the 50s.

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When today's young or youngish professionals are out of work, they don't live off of government handouts. They live off of their parents!

Seriously, what would a thirtyish professional man do these days if his wife walked out and stuck him with a kid, and he lost his job? He'd move back home, so his parents could look after the kid, his mother could feed him, and he'd be free to spend all day on the computer looking for jobs. And gaming.

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The best part of this movie was how Kramer needed a new job....he said he'd get one in 24 hours....and that's exactly what he did. If you want a job....go get one. Man, have times changed.
it's not about the times, man. That scenario was suspension of disbelief, not realistic, unless you're very lucky. It was not as though he got a job at BurgerKing in 24 hours, which would be different.

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Job hunting's scary. I'm scared of interviews and I never get hired even when I do do them.

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You’re right they can be terrifying, but there’s a few simple tricks you can keep up your sleeve to make them less intimidating and will make you more attractive to potential employees. I’ve done many interviews (from both sides as the interviewee and interviewer) so feel free to send me a message if you’d like some tips 👍

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Oh thanks for the offer. I have done some research and preparation though, and optimistic I got something lined up this week (fingers crossed). Just got to work on my enthusiasm which I have a tough time with lol.

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I liked how -- to compound the challenge and his achievement -- he managed to land that job while the office Christmas party was going on in the other room.

Pretty much a day near the end of the year where nobody's even really thinking about work.

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Which also means he got "let go" at a really crappy time.

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Here in the UK need to do the same, not just Americans, lol.. that was a great part of that film. You could feel how badly he wanted that job.

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