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More racist woke crap? Commentary trolls audience Finally quit weed Surprisingly light fare If the story is all… (spoilers) Soze’s age and nationality? (spoilers) ‘Now imagine she’s white’ Strange mix… Dull middle Kevin Spacey returns View all posts >


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Yes, good point. The filmmakers are guilty of cheating there, and even the twist is… troublesome. Good twists improve what went before, this one trashes it. ‘That thriller with great characters that you just enjoyed? Yeah, didn’t happen, all made up.’ Somehow though, the film remains really entertaining and rewatchable. The boxes and ropes are not an example of a MacGuffin, even by your own definition. Very wrong and dumb opinion. Steven Baldwin was perfectly cast in this and delivered a pitch-perfect performance. The whole cast is excellent and the Suspects complement each other brilliantly. <blockquote>The script betrays Byrne a bit,making Keaton too much of an enigma,confessing to murder wth a smirk,then unable to put down Berg.</blockquote> Very good observation, although these inconsistencies could be deliberate, especially since these events all occur in Verbal’s BS story. Verbal is Soze but the filmmakers weren’t careful enough and made him too young to plausibly be a terrifying legend who slayed his own family long ago, just as they slipped up when they had Verbal tell law enforcement that he recently shot a defenceless man in the head at point blank range… with no reaction from the officer(s) and no consequences for Verbal. It’s a great film but it’s not perfect. It’s hard to pin down when it ‘started’ which is why I said ‘6 years or so’. It feels like roughly 6 years ago I noticed there was a real problem and stopped impulsively going to the cinema without first checking that I was paying to see an actual movie and not some creepy Leftist propaganda. Well, Belle is French so she would likely be retooled as an Arab. This big burka shuffles into the castle and the Beast is like ‘..the fuck?’ Utter bullshit. Hollywood has gone insanely woke in the last 6 years or so and everyone knows it, including you. By denying this obvious fact you’re part of the problem, and you can expect more people to call out your cult. Take your own advice. The etymological links between ‘Verbal’ and ‘Soze’ are deliberate clues by the filmmakers to link the characters, a subtle hint as to the fact that they are the same person - which they clearly are because the film makes it clear. Soze’s cigarette holding isn’t Hungarian, I got that wrong, it’s Turkish. From IMDB: <blockquote>Verbal says "He's supposed to be Turkish" about Keyser Soze. In the final scene of the film, as he is picked up by Kobayashi, he doesn't hold his cigarette between his index finger and middle finger, like most smokers do. Instead, he holds it between his index finger and thumb. This is very common in the middle and eastern regions of Turkey. </blockquote> We do ‘know what’s fact or fiction’. The information in Verbal’s story which is corroborated by people other than him are facts within the film, as is any event that occurs before and after he is narrating, including the first scene, as are scenes outside of his narration like the whole Agent Baer subplot. Soze wouldn't strike terror into people like the burn victim, and raise the eyebrows of the FBI if he was some completely fabricated boogieman. He’s real, and he is Verbal’s true identity. You‘ve clearly invested years in denying this truth on IMDB and now here so I don’t expect you to publicly change your mind. You’re either trolling, or the devil really did convince you that he doesn’t exist. View all replies >