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Lmao, you craven coward, you got fascists posting fascist propaganda all day long and you delete his comment.
Go read a book, fascist retard. Learn what "news" are. You just linked to a segment from an opinion show from a media house owned by that fascist nincompoop, Rupert Murdoch.
This is your brain on Fox News. Fox News viewers are less informed than those that don't follow the news at all.
Fascist dictator Donald J. Trump had secret nuclear documents in his Florida home and you're talking about jackets. JACKETS.
It's the tan suit and dijon mustard all over again.
"So why can't we do that too?"
Keep voting for Tories, I'm sure one day they'll do that too. It's all bound to trickle down any moment now!
Yes, it was, that's why the FBI is charging 4 police officers. Federal prosecutors have 95% conviction rate. Get back to me when they take a plea deal.
Again, even if she were dealing drugs herself, that's wholly irrelevant. It's a red herring. Are you getting it through your thick skull? Police don't have the right to be judges, juries and executioners.
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3566383
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3566383
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3566383
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3566383
Here, is that not enough for you after I posted it once already?
Wow, in 80 years you found two rich guys that were actually criminals previously. LMFAO. I bet that took a lot of Googling. Congratulations.
There were 1491 executions in the United States since 1976 alone. One of your criminals was executed in 1944. You are once again inadvertently proving my point.
Other countries don't have qualified immunity and they're doing just fine. Crime rate is way lower too. You're patently awful at this, but you already know that, don't you?
This coming from a guy that denies Nazis exist today.
Fuck off, spamming retard.
The aim of the War on Drugs isn't to win it, the drugs will always win. Human ingenuity is unprecedented... Even in Philippines people still deal drugs despite the death penalty for smuggling or transporting or dealing drugs. It turns out that there are psychopaths and sociopaths who don't care for consequences as well as those that are so without opportunity and so impoverished that they have no other choices in life.
The aim of the War on Drugs is to imprison poor people so they can be slaves in the prison system and perpetuate poverty for later generations. Those with imprisoned fathers or mothers are much more likely to be or stay poor themselves.
The prison system in the US works with the basic and default assumption that all prisoners are incorrigible, so there's no use in trying to reform them. That's why recidivism rates are so high.
For the current system to work, you need an underclass that those in power will exploit and oppress -- whether they be poor people or minorities or immigrants or prisoners. And guess who is supposed to oppress and jail this underclass. The same idiots (and they are idiots; they don't hire intelligent people on purpose) which have the strongest union, qualified immunity, salaries way above what they actually deserve (especially for being so ineffective, unfit and undertrained for their jobs, especially when compared with police officers in many other first world countries) and who are basically thugs with badges and military-grade weaponry.
Great idea, let's give idiotic thugs with badges impunity and some APCs, let's see what happens, instead of reforming the system and addressing the root causes of crime.
The richest country in the world has the biggest prison population (despite being 4% of the world's population) and the highest incarceration rate. Yeah, I'm sure that's just a coincidence. The prison population has ballooned since the 1980s - an increase of +68% in citizens, yet 5x the amount of prisoners since the 80s.
<blockquote>I will never change your mind on this topic</blockquote>
It's telling you should say this because it belies your own thinking - nothing will change your mind, not even evidence. You are projecting.
<blockquote>I'm sure you have an unreliable study from a social scientist.</blockquote>
It's data backed up with empirical evidence. You're free to write your own scientific study. Oh, wait, that would require an enormous amount of effort and intelligence. It's much easier to just wave it off by saying anti-intellectual bullshit such as "oh, it's just a social scientist".
You are left with precisely zero (0) arguments, all you have are fallacies now. And a police report that was written up by the same police department that fabricated a warrant. And like I also said, all that's perfectly irrelevant.
<blockquote>Not all crimes result from poverty.</blockquote>
I never said all crimes result from poverty. In fact, I cited wage theft (50 billion dollars per year, eclipses all other types of theft by as much as 3 times combined) and tax evasion (163 billion dollars per year) as two examples of crimes that the rich do not go to jail for. And this type of theft and this type of fraud have far reaching social consequences. Those types of crimes stem from greed.
<blockquote>I previously provided you with two examples of murderers who were multi-millionaires.</blockquote>
I asked for examples of murders who were rich and were executed. There aren't any. I didn't ask for rich murderers who were imprisoned. Again, learn to read.
Do you know why many states in the US abolished the death penalty? Because, among other factors, poor people were disproportionately sentenced to death (they couldn't afford good lawyers, for example). So your justice is for sale, to be bought and sold like so many other things in America.
Cool, call them, but temper your expectations. Half the country doesn't call them, I wonder why. Your crime will be solved in 2% of cases, if that (according to your own logic the conviction rate for major crimes is supposed to be even lower).
The leaked police report written by the same police that faked the warrant. Golly gee, aren't they a trustworthy bunch.
Never trust the government! But trust the tools of the government that seek to oppress you implicitly!
<blockquote>Daily Mail is one of the best sources for news.</blockquote>
Yes, I'm sure that in your deluded and solipsistic universe that is true, objectively, they're a tabloid rag.
No one cares what you think. They're being charged federally. Do you know what the conviction rate for federal crimes is? It is a lot higher than 2% that the police manage.
I have a scientific study, you have tabloids and fake news.
<blockquote>You're clueless. A sane rich person would not need to sleep under a bridge, beg in the streets and steal loaves of bread. There are charitable programs that feed poor people.</blockquote>
That's exactly the point. Crime is the result of poverty. The rich steal 50 billion dollars from minimum wage workers and they fail to pay 163 billion dollars worth of taxes each year. While getting the government to give their business subsidies, tax breaks and bailouts. Gee, I wonder who's responsible for crime. Gee, I wonder why crime is much lower in countries with stronger social safety nets.
<blockquote>Not all poor people do drugs. The goal of the war on drugs is to eradicate illegal drugs from society. They are not targeting poor people.</blockquote>
The goal of the War on Drugs is to oppress poor people and throw them in jail. That's why the US has the highest prison population in the world and the highest incarceration rate. These prisoners work as slave labor. Yes, slavery was never abolished. You're advocating for more slaves.
<blockquote>The Sacklers owned Purdue Pharma so there is a layer of corporate protection. They are not in prison but they reached a $6 billion settlement. John Du Pont and Robert Durst were both multi-millionaires who received life sentences for murder.</blockquote>
Thanks for proving my points. On both counts.
So because they paid money, the biggest drug dealers aren't going to jail. Got it.
I asked you for rich people who got executed, not those that got jailed.
You made up everything. Actual open border policies are only supported by some right-wing libertarian types who want more cheap labor so they can exploit more workers. There's a reason Republicans aren't putting business owners in jail for hiring illegal immigrants... Because those same business owner are their own donors or they're themselves Republican politicians...
You know, like Trump, whose companies have been documented for hiring illegal immigrants in the past.
It could all stop tomorrow, but it's never going to stop, because Republicans will always need a group to vilify and demonize.
(And back when you could cross the borders more easily, people didn't bring their families to the US, they just went back and forth across the border to visit.)
In the 1990s when crime dropped massively Republicans said it was due to stricter policing. And then people smarter than Republicans figured out it was because of abortions. Which Republicans want to ban. Despite the majority of people in the US supporting the woman's right to choose. Republicans hate democracy.
Gas prices are already down. Oil companies are profiting massively and globally, they will have 10 trillion dollars in profits in the next 10 years alone. Time to nationalize oil companies.
Because they're swayed by propaganda, fake culture wars and personas in politics. Studies have shown that those that voted for Trump really did believe in his fake 'Apprentice' personality and that he was/is a great businessman.
And it's not a question of "if"... They do support them, we have the polling numbers. Even the vast majority of NRA members support universal background checks.
Voters in Missouri voted for expanding Medicare, Republicans ignored them.
Voters in Louisiana voted for marijuana decriminalization, Republicans went to the courts to stop it (and in Missouri as well I think, can't remember).
And just yesterday, voters in Kansas overwhelmingly voted not to touch the right to choose. Despite the ambiguously worded question, despite it being Kansas... Even deep red counties voted to keep the right for the woman to choose.
So, yeah, when policies are actually on the ballot, Republicans lose.
The FBI office in New York leaked documents about Hillary Clinton two weeks before the election.
A week before the election, the manufacturers of consent, the New York Times, reported that Donald Trump isn't under investigation for his campaign's ties to Russia.
The "Deep State", by its very definition would be a fascist organization. This is evinced by the fact that US intelligence agencies have promoted or instigated or supported fascist coups all over Central and South America for decades. No wonder the Deep State effected the rise of Donald Trump to the presidency. They wanted a fascist for a president.
<blockquote>Breonna Taylor was part of the drug ring that destroyed lives, families and neighborhoods.</blockquote>
Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat.
The onus of proof is on you. And you have not met that burden with your fake news sources.
And even if she were, the cops got a warrant based on false premises, which is why they're being charged.
And even if they got it fair and square...
POLICE AREN'T JUDGES.
THEY AREN'T THE JURY.
AND THEY SHOULDN'T BE EXECUTIONERS.
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One third of all strangers killed are killed by cops.
One third of those killed were killed while running.
Something like 40 percent of cops are guilty of domestic abuse.
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All this just to solve 2% of major crimes. It's patently clear what the purpose of the police is.
Daily Mail, fuck off, fascist. And it is a fake news source, duh. Like I said, there's a reason the FBI charged the cops.
<blockquote>"Bill Barr ended many of the Obama administration reforms"</blockquote>
Yeah, research has shown that those police departments that haven't gone through reforms arrest minorities disproportionately. This isn't the brag you think it is.
<blockquote>"I support the police and I want my property and family protected from criminals."</blockquote>
Go on, call the police. They're effective at solving 3% of burglaries and putting major criminals away 2% of the time. And the US still has the highest incarceration rate in the world. Because slavery hasn't been abolished in prison. As that Arizona idiot blurted out the other week "communities would collapse" without his forced prison labor.
FYI, wage theft in the US eclipses all other types of theft by like 3 times combined (robberies, larcenies, auto thefts, burglaries and so on) and Republicans won't lift a finger to stop it. Wage theft is a 50 billion per year industry.
Shouldn't those who steal, i.e. thieves and criminals be in jail? Apparently not. So you're not actually in favor of a fair justice system of any kind.
<blockquote>"The war on drugs has to continue."</blockquote>
Retard. It's not a war on drugs, it's an economic war against poor people. "The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal loaves of bread."
<blockquote>"Drugs are destroying this nation and they ruin many lives."</blockquote>
Why aren't the Sacklers in jail? Because they're rich. LMAO, they got immunity from lawsuits. You absolute dolt.
<blockquote>"Many countries execute drug dealers but many people consider dealing drugs to be a non-violent crime."</blockquote>
When's the last time a rich person was executed in the US? Good luck finding one.
MUH POLICE!!! They're only effective in the state's economic war against poor people (e.g. War on Drugs) and nothing else.
<blockquote>How effective are police at solving crime? It turns out, unfortunately, not very effective. This is the first major contribution of this Article, providing a national review of police effectiveness for major crimes. People turn to police when they are victims of serious crime only about half the time, and much less often for some crimes. Of the crimes we know about, police are able to arrest individuals on average about 10% of the time for major crimes committed, and convict individuals less than 2% of the time. That is to say, police bring less than 2% of criminal defendants to criminal accountability for major crimes. The ranges of criminal accountability vary with the seriousness of the crime, wit murder having the highest rate of accountability. At police's best, in some years, 40 to 52% of murderers are getting away with their crimes. With rape, individuals are getting away with it up to 90% of the time. And property crimes are much worse with burglars getting away with it 97% of the time, robbers 94%, and those who commit larceny 99% of the time. This lack of police effectiveness means people are getting away with serious crime, and victims are suffering as a result.</blockquote>
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3566383
Yes, policy is king and Republican voters overwhelmingly support Democrat policies when you actually talk to them. Stuff like universal background checks, marijuana legislation, abortion, Medicare (for All), child credit, pre-K credit, etc., etc., which is why you're trying to make shit up like the fascist you are.
First source is from Aug 25 2020, second source is a fake news source, which is also from 2020. It couldn't possibly be that the FBI uncovered new information in its investigation since that time, enough to, oh, I don't know, charge the cops?
Also, who cares? Not only are cops undertrained, they're not even effective at stopping or solving crime. They serve to protect the property of those in power. This is demonstrated by the fact they have the most powerful union in the US, but try to suppress and contain and break labor strikes.
Nice try at muddying the waters with fake news sources from 2020, you propagandist.
Counties that went 70% for Trump also voted in favor of abortion. Lmfao
When you actually present policies to Republicans, they usually support Democrat policies... Which is why Trump's cultists are working hard on trying to indoctrinate Republicans to resist talking about actual policies and focus on fake personas and culture war bullshit.