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What could happen is that the web warriors turn over Quentin Beck's crew and the Tinkerer to the NY PD before teaming with Firestar and Ice Man against the Sinister Six. That's like Victoria Snow, Gutes Guterman, William Ginter Riva if he's not Iron Patriot in a Fantastic Four movie, Shanice, Doug and some others in Spider-Man Far From Home.
This is the majority this to be set in 2068. Do any of you here have more ideas for comic books to be sequel to this film if the movie doesn't happen?
There should be the Daredevil of the Sam Raimi universe talked of taking on the Kingpin.
Battle Plan
Main MCU Agent Venom/Flash Thompson vs. Main MCU Gog
MCU Peter Parker/Spider-Man vs. main MCU Doctor Octopus
MCU Miles Morales as Shadow Spider vs. Slyde
Firestar Angelica Jones vs. Lonnie Lincoln/Tombstone of his Earth
Bobby Drake as IceMan vs. Mysterio varitant
Silke Cindy Moon vs. Janice Lincoln as the Beetle
That Spider-Man of the main MCU takes on the Tinkerer. Peter Parker as Spider-Man. Spider-Man throws The Tinkerer into Doctor Octopus. Mysterio is arrested there. Agent Venom defeats Gog. Janice Lincoln as the Beetle shoots blasts at Silke. Mysterio shoots blasts at IceMan freezes Mysterio. Silke and Shadow Spider are fighting Slyde and The Beetle hand to hand. It was Gog who brought in the Mysterio variant that was supposed to fight Dr. Strange in Spider-Man No Way Home. Agent Venom defeats Gog while Bobby Drake known as Iceman defeats Mysterio variant. Spider-Man webs up Gog and the other Slyde and The Beetle like after Doc Ock and The Tinkerer. The Sinister Six is arrested by Jefferson Davis.
That Spider-Man of the main MCU takes on the Tinkerer. Peter Parker as Spider-Man. Spider-Man throws The Tinkerer into Doctor Octopus. Firestar is rammed at by Tombstone. She shoots heat waves onto him. Mysterio is arrested there. Agent Venom defeats Gog. Overdrive shoots at Silke. Mysterio shoots blasts at IceMan freezes Mysterio. Silke and Shadow Spider are fighting Slyde and The Beetle hand to hand. It was Gog who brought in the Mysterio variant that was supposed to fight Dr. Strange in Spider-Man No Way Home. Agent Venom defeats Gog while Miles Morales defeats Slyde. Spider-Man webs up Gog and the other Slyde and The Beetle like after Doc Ock and The Tinkerer. The Sinister Six along with their dealer the Tinkerer Phineas Mason are arrested by Jefferson Davis.
There could be those from the Sony Marvel Universe cameo in this film and Sarah Jessica Parker as the sister of Aunt May in this movie. I put in ideas for action sequences and villain fates. This is to merge the MCU and Sony Marvel Universe into one universe. It is the Tinkerer and Quentin Beck's Crew that are accomplices of the Sinister Six but one of them is a member of the Sinister Six going by Beetle.
This should be titled “Spider-Man: Web Warriors” otherwise "Spider-Man & his Amazing Friends". That should be the MCU Sinister Six movie as the real Sinister Six film of the main MCU. This should be a film of the mutants saga.
Cynthia Moon as Silke like her beginning defeats Janice Lincoln the Beetle villain in the city. Then comes back to New York City after Miles Morales defeated Slyde when J. Jonah Jameson’s son is turned into a wolf just before going to other Earths. While the variants of Silke defeated Man-Spider in another world while Black Cat and Superior Spider-Man defeated Kraven the Hunter, Scorpion and Rhino. Maybe also Slyde is defeated before my main MCU Miles Morales. After that defeat Spider-Man of the main MCU returns to his home world. There should be prelude comics to the main MCU Otto Octavius becoming Dr. Octopus as he kills Dmitri that was in Spider-Man Far From Home. There should also be in the prelude comics when Agent Venom defeated a version of Kraven the Hunter like in the main MCU. Spider-Man defeats Spider-Carnage on another Earth.
In the Beginning The MCU Spider-Man is battling Man-Wolf. When he defeats him he’s turned back into John Jameson. Mayday Parker talks other super villains defeated after Harry Osborn of her universe died and before her father coming into the MCU. That Harry Osborn with most of the Sinister Six have been redeemed talked of by Mary Jane of The Amazing Spider-Man universe as Peter Parker of that Earth retired and she took his place. He turns back into John Jameson from the Tom Holland Spider-Man. The Tobey Maguire played Spider-Man’s daughter May from the Raimi Verse is born in 2012 or 2013 and the daughter of that Spider-Man and Mary Jane Watson. Gog is the main villain of this. He forming a Sinister Six recruits Doc Ock from the main MCU. There is Mysterio/Quentin Beck from the world of Spider-Carnage that main MCU Peter Parker travelled to. the Sony Marvel Universe. of the main MCU also as members of the Sinister Six. Also, there’s the Tinkerer of the main MCU as a member of the Sinister Six. There are talks of Spider-Man/Peter Parker played by Andrew Garfield and Tobey MaGuire defeated many other super villains not shown like Mysterio, The Vulture, Hobgoblin, Scorpion, Rhino, Electro, Kraven the Hunter and many other super villains after the deaths of the Osbornes, Otto Octavius, Eddie Brock and the survival of Flynt Marko who was the Sandman. Spider-Man meets up with Shadow Spider and Agent Venom his friend Flash Thompson. Peter Parker Spider-Man meets the Firestar and Iceman. They are going after their villains. Main MCU Spider-Man Peter Parker declares the Web Warriors and take on the Sinister Six. Otto Octavius is Doctor Octopus of the main MCU just before Gog with Doc Ock declares the Sinister Six. Doc Ock is the main villain of this film. This should be the film in the post multi verse saga like after the MCU rebooted that's originally labelled Earth 199999. The Tinkerer is dealing fire power to the Sinister Six. There could be the main MCU MJ as the lover of Spider-Man in this. If no Quentin Beck's crew in league with the Kingpin they help kidnap John Jameson to the Sinister Six. Spider-Man and Shadow Spider rescue John Jameson turning over Shanice, Doug, Gutes Guterman and Victoria Snow to the NY PD with others on Mysterio's crew fighting hand to hand. They testify that there's the Sinister Six formed and the Tinkerer is dealing to the Sinister Six.
There are talks that Peter Parker graduated college after the Secret Wars and teaming with Venom. The Kingpin is arrested with the help of TASM Iron Spider Mary-Jane Watson-Parker as he was a suspect to many crimes talked of. It’s talked of in the multi verse travels like during or after the events of Spider-Man No Way Home talked that Harry Osborn was redeemed by killed by Wilson Fisk/The Kingpin but killed Donald Menken and Gustav Fiers/The Gentleman just before ending up in the Sam Raimi universe. Kingpin is the suspect of the Harry Osborn murder but not found out until after Norman Osborn has been defeated in the Spider-Verse movie that should be TASM 3 and Spider-Man 4 but this is part 3 of the MCU Spider-Man trilogy with a Sinister Six formed but the Tinkerer isn't a full-time member of the team. It’s the Spider-Man Tobey MaGuire played taking on Morlun of his universe now shown but should be mentioned. Also mentioned is the Andrew Garfield Spider-Man is taking on his version of Shriek just as his Black Cat takes on the Kingpin of there. The Sam Raimi Black Cat is taking on Mr. Negative and his gang with the help of The Prowler Hobie Brown. Fire Star and Ice Man team with the Web Warriors against the Sinister Six. The main MCU Sinister Six kidnaps John Jameson and maybe that could prove to J. Jonah Jameson of Spider-Man being a hero and Mysterio was the villain. Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends rescue him when they take on the Sinister Six.
Here's what's continued on the main MCU Spider-Man movie of taking on the Sinister Six.
Battle Plan
Main MCU Agent Venom/Flash Thompson vs. Main MCU Gog
MCU Peter Parker/Spider-Man vs. main MCU Doctor Octopus
MCU Miles Morales as Shadow Spider vs. Slyde
Firestar Angelica Jones vs. Lonnie Lincoln/Tombstone of his Earth
Bobby Drake as IceMan vs. Mysterio varitant
Silke Cindy Moon vs. Janice Lincoln as the Beetle
That Spider-Man of the main MCU takes on the Tinkerer. Peter Parker as Spider-Man. Spider-Man throws The Tinkerer into Doctor Octopus. Mysterio is arrested there. Agent Venom defeats Gog. Janice Lincoln as the Beetle shoots blasts at Silke. Mysterio shoots blasts at IceMan freezes Mysterio. Silke and Shadow Spider are fighting Slyde and The Beetle hand to hand. It was Gog who brought in the Mysterio variant that was supposed to fight Dr. Strange in Spider-Man No Way Home. Agent Venom defeats Gog while Bobby Drake known as Iceman defeats Mysterio variant. Spider-Man webs up Gog and the other Slyde and The Beetle like after Doc Ock and The Tinkerer. The Sinister Six is arrested by Jefferson Davis.
That Spider-Man of the main MCU takes on the Tinkerer. Peter Parker as Spider-Man. Spider-Man throws The Tinkerer into Doctor Octopus. Firestar is rammed at by Tombstone. She shoots heat waves onto him. Mysterio is arrested there. Agent Venom defeats Gog. Overdrive shoots at Silke. Mysterio shoots blasts at IceMan freezes Mysterio. Silke and Shadow Spider are fighting Slyde and The Beetle hand to hand. It was Gog who brought in the Mysterio variant that was supposed to fight Dr. Strange in Spider-Man No Way Home. Agent Venom defeats Gog while Miles Morales defeats Slyde. Spider-Man webs up Gog and the other Slyde and The Beetle like after Doc Ock and The Tinkerer. The Sinister Six along with their dealer the Tinkerer Phineas Mason are arrested by Jefferson Davis.
If no Venom or Anti-Venom on the Sinister Six then Hypno Hustler who's a villain in redemption. That person could take on Speed Demon.
I am not but a fan of him since my teens.
Now comes the Agent Venom ideas like Marvel Comics could be under license by Disney or Sony to do those comics.
· Agent Venom TV Series
There should be the Sinister Seven in the finale with Agent Venom Flash Thompson having team with him The MCU Sandman and Aaron Davis/The Prowler as 2 redeemed villains. Flash Thompson joins the military. The villain of the first episode is Dr. Curt Conners as the Lizard. This should consist of 6 to 8 episodes. He defeats him. Ned becomes a sorcerer while Jason Maceldine becomes Hobgoblin. The Chief villain for the Agent Venom miniseries should be Gustav Fiers/The Gentleman forming a sinister syndicate. Those super villains whether or not debut in the MCU work for The Gentleman. There are talks that Spider-Man defeated the Sinister Six with the help of some other heroes like Daredevil who’s alter ego represented Peter Parker and caught the brick thrown in the window. There are talks of Quentin Beck’s crew in the vault while the Tinkerer is in the Raft with the Sinister Six team.
The symbiote comes into the MCU and onto Flash Thompson. This is when Dr. Connors was transformed into the Lizard. Joystick and Speed Demon are in league with Doc Ock. The Lizard in redemption takes on Joystick while Sandman another villain redeemed takes on Speed Demon. Those villains are defeated. Agent Venom on Agent Venom defeats Doc Ock. That Doc Ock is Carolyn Trainer a woman. Jason Maceldine becomes Hobgoblin.
Tarantula is working for The Gentleman. After the defeat of other super villains, The Gentlemen forms a new Sinister Seven just as Martin Li/Mr. Negative lead inner demons was taken down by Cloak & Dagger talked of. The Beetle Abner Jenkins along with Jason Maceldine as Hobgoblin. Tarantula, The Jackal, the female Electro Francine Frye and Hydro Man Morris Bench.
There should be some villain origins in cameos. The Lizard teams with Flash Thompson known as Agent Venom. Felicia Hardy as Black Cat should have some appearances on the show as she meets with Flash Thompson known as Agent Venom. He defeats them. They join forces to take down the Sinister Seven. Black Cat Felicia Hardy could take on Electro while Ned Leeds as a sorcerer supreme takes on The Beetle. Joystick redeemed takes on Tarantula while The Lizard takes on Hydro Man. The Prowler Aaron Davis takes on the Jackal.
The Lizard defeats Hydro Man while Joystick defeats Tarantula. Flash Thompson is going by Agent Venom in black clothes. Agent Venom later on defeats Hobgoblin. There’s The Sandman cameo to when he defeats random thugs. Those thugs are taken down by also Agent Venom. Ned Leeds defeats the Beetle. Black Cat defeats Electro with martial arts moves while the Lizard takes on Hobgoblin.
There’s Flint Marko in redemption talks of being the assistant to Talos after the death of Dimitri Smerdyakov. He was half-brother of Kraven the Hunter but are not aligned. Sergei Karvenoff was abusive to Dmitri Smerdvakov before becoming Kraven the Hunter. There’s the Prowler with knockout gas defeats The Jackal. This could lead into the Dark Avengers movie and Secret Wars movie. Maybe there could be comics of Agent Venom vs. Kraven the Hunter in the Secret Wars movie prelude that’s the second Secret Wars movie. From the battle Hobgoblin kills Ned Leeds trying to take him down in redemption as Hydro Man washes away Agent Venom. Hydro-Man is defeated. Agent Venom takes on Karl Fiers the Gentleman’s brother and killer of Peter Parker’s parents with NY PD organized crime strike force taking down Gustav Fiers/The Gentleman putting him in prison with the super villains in league with him. Flash Thompson as Agent Venom brings Karl Fiers and his brother Gustav to justice. Both Ned Leeds and Flash Thompson are the lead character of this show.
The show should consist of 6 to 8 episodes. More fans could put in more ideas for this.
· Ultimate Spider-Man
There should be prelude comics to when Spider-Man faces Lightmaster and he defeats him. Lightmaster is arrested. Terrax the Tamer is joining forces with Lightmaster. Peter Parker/Spider-Man and MCU Deadpool are joining forces facing those villainsJohnny Storm the Human Torch defeats Terrax when Light Master is defeated by the Spider-Man Peter Parker. Also, a new idea put in is talks by Silvermaine of the Punisher fighting Ceaser Cicero (Big C) in a gun fight but not shown as no room for them in the 2nd of this trilogy. This should be Part 2 of the college trilogy of Spider-Man. There is in the prelude comics the battle of Hammerhead before getting the metal plate fighting with Jean DeWolf. Joseph is who becomes Hammerhead. It’s a gun fight. There are serious head injuries by Joseph manages to kill Lt. Jean DeWolf. This ends the prelude comics with Miles Morales in flashback with spider bite and metal put onto Joseph’s head to go by Hammerhead.
Silvio Manfredi is either the son or grandson of Joey Manfredi. He’s now the mob boss. He runs Maggia. His daughter Alisha is part of his gang.
Hammerhead has the Harry Dumont, Eli Rumsford and Cyclone answering to him. There’s the Italian Mafia of then. Spider-Boy Miles Morales of the MCU takes on Maggia just as of mentored by the Peter Parker as in the beginning with NY PD officers going after Hammerhead just as Miles Morales is going by Kid Arachnid. Silvermaine is the boss of bosses. Peter Parker takes on Harry Dumont, Eli Rumsord and Cyclone with the help of Yuri Wantanbe.
Hammerhead is the suspect for killing Jean DeWolf talked of. Betty Brandt the Daily Bugle secretary is dating Flash Thompson this time. In the beginning battle Spider-Man takes on Hammerhead. He had rammed into Lt. Jefferson Davis and Detective Neil Garrett and Yuri Wantanbe a rookie of the NY PD Asian American woman trying to bring him down as he’s the suspect in killing Jean DeWolf. Miles Morales is starting off being Spider-Boy mentored by Peter Parker as Peter Parker during college before he goes after the Scorcher on Long Island. He turns out to be to be an enforcer for Silvermane as those cops he attacked arrest him just as Yuri Wantanbe wraps up those 3 men answering to Hammerhead.
Yuri Wantanbe and Peter Parker Spider-Man defeat those mobsters. Spider-Man webs up Hammerhead with his 3 enforcers. Jessica Carradine is the replacement photographer for Peter Parker at the Daily Bugle. She’s the daughter of the late crook who killed Uncle Ben Parker. There should be Silvermane to live longer have cyborg implants on him to live a long time. Miles Morales takes on Alisha Manfredi with the help of The Punisher Frank Castle and Peter Parker being Spider-Man. Spider-Man asks the Punisher to without killing take down Maggia. The Punisher tells Spider-Man of being a marine. He webs her to walls along with Rapier. He’s become a cyborg for longer life. The Punisher Frank Castle in hand-to-hand fighting does battle with gangsters Blackie, Gimlet, Big Rock and Top Man while Spider-Man takes on Manfredi crime family being released from prison that got cut out of Spider-Man No Way Home. The NY PD veteran cop Neil Garrett arrests Silvermaine Silvio Manfredi and his gang after Kid Arachnid defeated Alisha. Miles Morales defeated Rapier and Spider-Man defeats Silvermane as he gets into battle with him and webbing up other mob soldiers.
Spider-Man webs up the defeated mobsters just as The Punisher is to take down Maggia. This could end with Spider-Man Miles swinging off into the city. There should be if Agent Carter is canonized there are talks that she helped bring down Joey Manfredi and his gang. Miles Morales talks of his uncle helping Agent Venom defeat many other villains with putting The Gentleman and his brother and those other villains behind bars with the death of Ned Leeds. It was Norman Osborn that took over Tony Stark’s business as there is no Oscorp in the main MCU. If no Frank Castle/The Punisher than Aaron Davis taking on Maggia teaming with Miles Morales as Shadow Spider and Peter Parker as Spider-Man. This is the live action Miles Morales movie. Maybe instead there's Miles Morales teaming with Yuri Watanabe.
I suggested there should be an Agent Venom series that could otherwise just be comics. Here's the reply below...
They could've been to the United States but maybe there could be stories of the Devil's Rejects in Canada.
Maybe then Tombstone is the villain who faces Firestar as a member of the Sinister Six. The Tinkerer is dealing to the Sinister Six if he doesn't go down in MCU Spider-Man 4. Spider-Man throws Doctor Octopus into the Tinkerer as the Sinister Six should consist of Dr. Octopus as leader with Gog, Overdrive, Slyde, Mysterio and Tombstone. No Tinkerer bot but The Tinkerer is arrested along with the Sinister Six. Fire Star is charged at by Tombstone but she defeats him with the heat waves.
There's in the end people show up like San Angeles police officers and one of them is Detective Sierra Houser. Gus Hawkins shows up with his council of 8. At the end of the Demolition Man 2 comic book series there’s John Spartan retiring. John Spartan arrests Gus Hawkins on the charges to him just as Sierra Hauser shows up. She and Joey Spartan escort him to the police station while the elite moralistic conspiring with Gus Hawkins are free if they testify against him using the Phoenix Gang for political gain in a plot to kill John Spartan. His conspirators are to testify against him for their freedom. This is outside of the San Angeles Science Center and Gus Hawkins won’t run for president in 2064. John Spartan in retirement states that Gus Hawkins hid things on his rise to power in attempts to bring back the Cocteau plan. Lenina Huxley-Spartan is the new chief of police. This is at the end crowds come to see what's going on. Gus Hawkins a would be dictator is the final arrest by John Spartan in his police days just as he has his son Joey and the detective Sierra Hauser escort him to the police station to be booked as Joey Spartan announces the Simon Phoenix clone killed Alfredo Garcia in the final battle.
It would've been Wesley Snipes as the Simon Phoenix clone and Ed Harris as Gus Hawkins and Michael Beihn as Ronny Blade. There are cigarettes illegal all this time but Gus Hawkins was to outlaw many of the stuff Raymond Cocteau banned until his downfall as marijuana and prostitution were legal as long as it’s be an adult for prostitution by law. Gus Hawkins was to even outlaw candy with tattoos and body piercings. There’s the fight for freedom. Maybe if permission Elon Musk could be a historical figure in this. Gus Hawkins and Ronny Blade have worked for Cocteau Industries. Gus Hawkins was a senator of the United States and governor of California in the 2030’s later on and in the 2040’s. Gus Hawkins in his youth worked for Behavioral Engineering. Gus Hawkins the pull off of Raymond Cocteau talks of people to remove tattoos and piercings or they go to jail. It's under that stuff people are to be committed to mental therapy. He also is to outlaw contact sports but outlaw painting human bodies. Also outlaw the stuff that Dr. Cocteau banned in 2011. In the battle of John Spartan vs. CryoCon Elvin there are machine guns on the CryoCons answering to Elvin in 2058. In the earlier 2060's there are big and small guns like variety of guns from Demolition Man similar to the Simon Phoenix clone and most of the 80 CryoCons that Simon Phoenix thawed out in 2032. Those are in the gun fights at the police station against Simon Phoenix's mysterious offspring while in the final battle of the series like in the issue titled Finale Simon Phoenix's clone has a sub machine gun while the remaining CryoCons have handguns or even sub machine guns but various guns big and small.
What else to add in on Demolition Man 2 comic book series ideas is that Gus Hawkins on his plot to kill John Spartan before finding out he uses the Pheonix gang to kill him tells John Spartan everything in the power to end the Phoenix gang. In secret all those years Simon Phoenix was cloned while his offspring was second in command and over those years with the clone Simon Phoenix hidden CryoCons Adam and Elvin were thirds in command. John Spartan was thinking that Simon Phoenix's offspring after the death of Simon Phoenix took his place as leader of the 21st century gang started by Simon Phoenix. This would be the offspring to avenge him. It takes some amount of time for Ronny Blade to tell John Spartan of Gus Hawkins on the plot to kill him for political gain and stronger than Raymond Cocteau with the plot to kill him for political gain while in custody. Simon Phoenix clone with the remains of his gang plot to kill John Spartan and his family members up against him and the gang along with Edgar Friendly. There is the plot with the clone Simon Phoenix and the remnants of the Phoenix gang to kill Gus Hawkins and his council. If Gus Hawkins got into power he would have the Phoenix gang and the clone Phoenix eliminated with John Spartan taken down.
There should be at the San Angeles public library to when 2 police cruisers flying by land there finding the clone Simon Phoenix. One is carrying the squad leader with a woman member and the other carries 2 other men. The clone Simon Phoenix remarks his going to love running this place There are 4 cops who find the Clone Simon Phoenix. They are 3 men and one woman. They fight him in a gun fight. The Simon Phoenix clone kills those cops. There are reports to cops and rebels like to John Spartan and Edgar Friendly that there were rebels and cops slaughtered by the crime syndicate of 2060's San Angeles. He plots to kill those who betrayed him to join Edgar Friendly’s resistance force. There's the plot against Gus Hawkins to kill him with the men and women (8 people) to be slaughtered as well.
There should be Gus Hawkins talking of with his crew banning unhealthy products and taking guns out of the city again along with tattoos and body piercings illegal as would be alcohol, caffeine, contact sports and meat. Profanity would be outlawed while those morality boxes are to be brought back and John Spartan with Edgar Friendly are his top targets of elimination using criminals.
John Spartan and team depart for the San Angeles Science Center meeting up with Edgar Friendly and his top freedom fighters played by Carlton Wilborn and Jack Black in the 1993 movie. John Spartan puts Detective Sierre Hauser on patrol of San Angeles with other patrol officers. Joey Spartan has a handgun and shot gun and is to with his parents fight to end the Phoenix Gang.
They talk of underground people killed also. With surviving CryoCons arrested along with Gus Hawkins his accomplices are under investigation. From the conspirators of Gus Hawkins John Spartan manages to locate Simon Phoenix’s clone with the rest of the CryoCon henchmen. The clone Simon Phoenix has memories of the original Simon Phoenix and plots to clone others killed long ago to create a new criminal army with cloning henchmen killed at the main headquarters of the SA PD. John Spartan sends the officers on the search for the criminals out there.
This is later on that the clone Simon Phoenix with the remaining CryoCon henchmen of Simon Phoenix have an arsenal of guns big and small. There’s a flashback to retcon a scene cut out to when Simon Phoenix kills Zachry Lamb on the streets of San Angeles. It’s after the car chase to when Zachary Lamb tries to bring down Simon Phoenix. He’s shot to death. Cryocons Adam, Francis, Danzig and Elvin meet up with Simon Phoenix heading over to Cocteau Industries. It was shown long ago that Simon Phoenix freeing the criminal army slaughtered the guards of the cryo-prison and then gunned the techs to death. Back to the earlier 2060’s. From Simon Phoenix’s clone there’s the plot to kill the mayor of San Angeles along with deputy mayor and kill John Spartan and Edgar Friendly but also clone those killed at the police station battle and others killed long ago to form a criminal army. It’s a big building with a gun battle. John Spartan, Lenina Huxley-Spartan, Joey Spartan, Edgar Friendly, Alfredo Garcia and the armed scraps Carl and Jackie get into gun battle against Simon Phoenix and the remains of his gang. John Spartan shoots down some gang members in the battle. The Clone Simon Phoenix finds of the offspring of Simon Phoenix killed at the police station attack. John Spartan equips with guns and a machine gun/rocket launcher combo. Lenina Huxley and John Spartan are riding the back Alfredo Garcia driving the car with Joey Spartan riding shotgyun. The remaining villains are found at the San Angeles Science Center. Edgar Friendly and the Spartans evacuate the science center just before Simon Phoenix clone and his gang along come in. It's the science center on a floor to when John Spartan and allies battle the Simon Phoenix clone and the remaining CryoCons to when Alfredo Garcia is killed in battle.
There should be the battle when Simon Phoenix clone and the rest of the CryoCon henchmen finding John Spartan and company with memories of the original Simon Phoenix. He says "let's take them boys". John Spartan and company are prepared this time and they fire back. This is reference to the Wasteland battle back in 2032 after the original Simon Phoenix sprung 7 CryoCons. John Spartan in the building shoots a rocket into Simon Phoenix clone and blows up the rest of the cryocon henchmen as the clone Simon Phoenix is eliminated by explosion. He blows up a part of the building but there’s the fire suppression system as the rest of the criminals are killed.
There are years of investigation of this criminal mastermind. Gus Hawkins is the next of Raymond Cocteau and thinks he controls the criminal army that cloned Simon Phoenix and plotted to eliminate John Spartan. It was for political gain as John Spartan was destructive. Over this time Gus Hawkins rises to power and has a new Cocteau administration. There should be John Spartan eating at Taco Bell with Gus Hawkins as he has with him Lenina Huxley the deputy police chief and Captain Alfredo Garcia. During Taco Bell there is John Spartan’s family accompanying like his daughter Katherine who’s divorced long ago and has 2 daughters born 2 years apart. Also, with Lenina Huxley-Spartan John Spartan has the son named Joe and a daughter named Melissa. Gus Hawkins is looking to run for president for the 2068 election.
John Spartan and Lenina Huxley Spartan in the 2060’s earlier in that decade have their son Joey and a promoted office now detective Sierra Hauser going after Ronnie Blade. There are 2 others that turned their backs on the rebels going by Freddy and Buster. At this lab those cops appear and have a gun fight with Freddy and Buster. John Spartan kills Freddy while Joey Spartan kills Buster in the gun fight. They all together arrest Dr. Ronnie Blade on his charges just before finding out of Gus Hawkins having the Simon Phoenix clone as a pawn for political power and bring back the Cocteau like society. That’s first the US and then the world.
There should be scenes of humor too in it and scenes of Simon Phoenix clone and the mystery offspring of Simon Phoenix. They talk of killing Gus Hawkins and conspirators to him as they have the goal to spread chaos. The Simon Phoenix clone has the memory of the real Simon Phoenix having Adam kill Raymond Cocteau as of unable to pull the trigger on him. Gus Hawkins meets up with the Clone Simon Phoenix. Gus Hawkins has a plot to eliminate John Spartan for political gain but also eliminate Edgar Friendly and his freedom fighting band. Simon Phoenix clone and Simon Phoenix Jr. meet up with Gus Hawkins.
It leads into John Spartan finding out his classic nemesis Simon Phoenix had been cloned as a corrupt business man his is mystery offspring born in the 1990’s. The mother is unknown. Simon Phoenix clone plots to kill Gus Hawkins and his 8 person council meeting up with the remaining army of CryoCons.
It’s Gus Hawkins taking over the world for peace when he’s a dictator that wants to kill John Spartan for political power. Those who served him work for Mac. John Spartan learns of Gus Hawkins plotting to kill him for political gain as was plotted by usurping criminal master mind Ronny Blade also the right-hand man of Gus Hawkins along with his crew of 3 women and 5 men. They learn of this stuff. In secret for usurping Ronny Blade with the Simon Phoenix clone send Adam with others unfrozen to kill Gus Hawkins as Adam did the work for Simon Phoenix in killing Mayor/Gov Raymond Cocteau back in 2032 when Simon Phoenix was unable to. There’s fighting for freedom from terror and oppression.
In the ideas there's a plot by Gus Hawkins to kill John Spartan for political gain with also order the killing of Edgar Friendly and his top scrap fighters. They should be played by Carlton Wilborn and Jack Black. That's with Mac and the council of Gus Hawkins. Later on, Mac meets up with the clone Simon Phoenix and the criminals unfrozen by Simon Phoenix back in 2032 just before Ronny Blade and the rest of the CryoCons unfrozen by Simon Phoenix 30 years earlier go to attack the police station. Mac takes a band of CryoCons to the police station and to attack. At the police station Detective Sierra Hauser talks of men and women turning their backs on the new Phoenix Gang. Simon Phoenix clone plots to kill them as he found out.
The band of clone CryoCons go to the police station with Simon Phoenix Jr. as the criminal mastermind. There are very young rebels both male and female on the way who got out of the gang that answered to Elvin and joined Edgar Friendly's freedom fighting band. Mac/Simon Phoenix Jr. and the band of CryoCons fight them in a gun fight. They shoot them down killing them. There should be scenes at the Police Station as Alfredo Garcia throws Erwin the veteran dispatcher to the ground when the CryoCons attack by firing. There are cops that fire back as does John Spartan, Lenina Huxley-Spartan, Edgar Friendly, Carl and the other armed followers of Edgar Friendly like who was played by Jack Black. They get shot and killed. Alfredo Garcia in front of the veteran dispatcher Erwin fires back.
Mac also fires on John Spartan and company. Detective Sierra Hauser and Joey Spartan get into a gun fight. John Spartan kills the rest of the CryoCons with bullets in Mac/Simon Phoenix Jr. killing him to. There was learning from Ronny Blade in custody of the Simon Phoenix clone hidden all those years as of the frozen remains of Simon Phoenix were recovered in the cryo-prison in ruins.
This should be in the 2037 tale Chief Earle sends Alfredo Garcia on the hunt for Elvin as Alfedo Garcia hunting down Elvin with Reggie, Gunther, Howie and Jed along with Ignatius. Alfredo Garcia is backed up by Edgar Friendly and the scrap toughs.
10 Years later after the movie ended that was released October 8, 1993, over to 2042. The Italian mob headed by Luciano Almelo is heading to San Angeles. John Spartan and Lenina Huxley-Spartan are captains of the SA PD. John Spartan’s daughter, and her 2 daughters are coaches of Special Olympics. They are to tell the Italian Mafia has returned to San Angeles. John Spartan tells of the Mafia war that were rivals to Simon Phoenix and his criminal friends that got all whacked out. The mob guys find CryoCons Patrick Wilkes, Gunther, Howie, Jed, Ignatius and Reggie. Those men get into a hand-to-hand fight with the Almelo crime family. Those mob guys and the boss have lead pipes with baseball bats and crow bars. Those 5 CryoCons are violently beaten to death by the mob guys. Luciano breaks Reggie’s neck in killing him. The others freed a decade earlier from cryo-prison beaten up have steel beams dropped on them by their rival criminals.
John Spartan with veteran chief George Earle, Derek Hammer, Lenina Huxley-Spartan, Alfredo Garcia and Dana Harris-Burke with the Troy Evans played cop take on Luciano and his underbosses with the Mafia goons. Those cops are untouchable. It’s a hand-to-hand fight with kicks and punches onto those mob guys. John Spartan grabs a sign and clobbers Mafia boss Luciano Almelo in arresting him. Chief Earle and Dana Harris-Burke get into a fight with the under bosses. Others throw kicks and punches onto mob henchmen. They are arrested. An investigation is going on for the criminal mastermind post Simon Phoenix not realizing over those years he was cloned. Mac finds out his mother was the rape victim of Simon Phoenix with Simon Phoenix having an offspring told of by Dr. Ronny Blade.
There was Dana Harris-Burke after 50 years moved to the north of the state of California while other cops like Derek Hammer, James MacMillain (played by Troy Evans) and Chief George Earle had all retired. Ryan has a gun fight with CryoCon Elvin while Jason fights Clone Simon Phoenix in a martial arts fight. When the Clone Simon Phoenix defeated Jason he ordered Mac/Simon Phoenix Jr. who owned a business to kill him by breaking his neck and back. Ronny Blade reports to Simon Phoenix Jr. who was the mystery offspring of Simon Phoenix. Elvin with his Mac sub machine guns shoots and kills the though scrap fighter Ryan. Mac/Simon Phoenix Jr. shoots down those 2 scraps played by Ken Baldwin and Michael Buice. It’s the smuggler Wayne Henderson who kills the Scrap Fighter Ryan. The Spartans discover the killing.
This should be in the 100 years after John Spartan was born in 2058 AD. There should be John Spartan going after Elvin finding him with some other men. Elvin talks to those other thugs of together with Mac killing Edgar Friendly outcasts Jason and Ryan recently. This is before John Spartan shows up and battles those members of the Phoenix gang. There are a few of them shot down before John Spartan has the epic gun fight with Elvin as John Spartan as the berretta drawn and fights Elvin as Elvin has Uzis. It’s at a dock. John Spartan yells out “Yo Elvin” and “Yeah I know it’s you” getting into a gun fight. John Spartan in the gun fight with Elvin shoots the electric box. He manages to shoot Elvin in the belly on the armor sending him into the electric box. Elvin is electrocuted to how he dies. It’s a shipment of illegal drugs and cigarettes just as vaping it outlawed but invented not that long before San Angeles. After killing Elvin and some other old criminals John Spartan meets with California governor Gus Hawkins and his right-hand man the secret offspring of Simon Phoenix going by Mac with Dr. Ronny Blade. It was Gus Hawkins with Ronnie Blade working for Raymond Cocteau until he was killed. The illegal drugs are blown up around him. Wayne Henderson fires on John Spartan. John Spartan fires back shooting Wayne Henderson in the head killing him. They discover all those years that Simon Phoenix was cloned. This is just before that John Spartan goes to arrest this corrupt doctor at his lab. Joey Spartan is a rookie of the San Angeles Police force.
There series should start off in 2032 when Gus Hawkins is becoming mayor of San Angeles who was on city council during the Cocteau administration. He’s interim mayor of the free San Angeles. He’s in secret the next of Raymond Cocteau but not as incompetent as him. There’s with Dr. Ronny Blade having the frozen remains of Simon Phoenix from the destroyed Cryo-Prison dug up with the help of top CryoCon minions Adam and Elvin. Mac owns a business now and his the mystery offspring of Simon Phoenix. Flying cars start a couple of years after the end of the 1993 movie. John Spartan marries Lenina Huxley. They have a daughter named Melissa and a son named Joey born in 2033 and 2036.
It's in those years that Gus Hawkins was city council to Mayor of the free San Angeles to state senator and then governor of California and plots to as president bring back the Cocteau administration. Adam is the cryocon played by Jesse “The Body” Ventura.
Five years later in 2037 after the end of Demolition Man Adam is plotting to with 5 other cryocons pillage the Schwarzenegger Presidential Library. John Spartan gets the tip from Gus Hawkins on that who’s now mayor of San Angeles. There’s flashback of the Wasteland battle in early August 2032 when John Spartan with Lenina Huxley got into chase of Simon Phoenix on the road after Edgar Friendly knocked Simon Phoenix off of a bridge underground. Elvin and Francis are remaining up to top while a top scrap tough and Jack Black’s character get into a gun fight with them as he shows up with another scrap fight that was shown in the movie along with 2 others not seen in the movie Jason and Ryan who later meet up with the Troy Evans played cop. There’s a bloody scene with underground people killed by Simon Phoenix and his gang. Edgar Friendly clobbers Adam on the head with the tip of his gun. The 2 written out Jason and Ryan show up. Ryan takes on Adam while Jason takes on Danzing. The scrap male with long hair and bandana in the gun fight shoots and kills the cryocon with who’s name isn’t known played by Norm Compton while Edgar Friendly shoots with this double-barreled gun the cryocon played by Charles Glass known as Beppo. CryoCon Kodo played by Toshishiro Obata pulls out the samurai sword. The scrap fighter named Carl shoots him killing him. Danzig and Adam defeat Jason and Ryan. Adam bangs Edgar Friendly and the scrap tough into each other as the fighting becomes hand to hand. Adam throws Edgar Friendly into a pole while 2 of the scraps are fighting CryoCons Elvin and Francis now hand to hand. Those 2 cryocons defeat the scraps and one of them is played by Jack Black. The 4 top CryoCons defeat the scraps without killing them and go looking for Simon Phoenix. Alfredo Garcia gets back up. This is believed by Raymond Cocteau that Simon Phoenix killed Edgar Friendly but Edgar Friendly and his resistance emerge. Back in 2037 John Spartan shows up with Lenina Huxley-Spartan, Alfredo Garica, Dana Harris-Burke and Derek Hammer lead by Chief George Earle.
They spot Adam with 5 other men that Simon Phoenix had unfrozen 5 years earlier. John Spartan states he'll take Adam just as Chief Earle with the other cops present take on the 5 other CryoCon henchmen lead by Adam at the place. John Spartan’s female sidekicks are fighting martial arts fight. John Spartan takes on CryoCon Adam. Adam states to kill John Spartan over and over again. John Spartan states that even if Adam was one of those he wanted to kill not necessary to kill them all. John Spartan has a colossal showdown with CryoCon Adam. There’s a video showing Zachary Lamb in the library killed by Simon Phoenix and then the 4 other CryoCons meeting up with him. John Spartan and CryoCon Adam are throwing punches onto each other. With fighting methods back John Spartan’s rookie from 1996 double kicks 2 CryoCons. She knocks them out as does Derek Hammer and Alfredo Garcia with Lenina Huxley-Spartan learning from John Spartan hand to hand combat. Adam throws a side punch on John Spartan. He misses just as Adam states to crush John Spartan to death. John Spartan boxing style throws punches onto Adam. John Spartan lays a kick onto the tough CryoCon’s belly. John Spartan shoves his knee into CryoCon Adam’s chin. John Spartan throws Adam against a glass wall. John Spartan does recall that Arnold Schwarzenegger the popular movie start was governor of California before president of the United States while he was frozen. John Spartan telling Adam when he manages to incapacitate him that he won’t kill anymore people. There could be scenes not cut out of the original film shown like the road chase and Simon Phoenix having his gang kill Raymond Cocteau with John Spartan at Taco Bell in showdown with the scraps thinking they were bad people. Also, the Simon Phoenix Road chase shown on video just as Adam watches himself in video gun down Dr. Cocteau. This shows that Chief Earle is holding Simon Phoenix for the murder of Mayor/Gov Raymond Cocteau.