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The disclaimer should be that even though your teacher says otherwise these kind of relationships happen quite frequently today. 1) Male is the center of the household economically. Check. 2) Wife is stay at home, trophy, has an arrangement with hubby. Hubby makes the money and she wears the outfits that would make a hooker blush. Check. 3) Non-traditional household where husband and wife are from different backgrounds. Check. Back then wearing suits outside of work or church was a sign that you arrived economically. Look at gangsters back then who cared less about social norms but still did not wear jeans at all. Seinfeld has already lost a fair amount of appeal as it is not continuously run as it was 15 years ago in syndication so the exposure is not there to draw new fans. Also, Seinfeld never drew well away from its core audience of urban well to do intellectual people. For those wanting an example of unbelievable then the heist from Camp Pendleton. I grew up not far from a military installation and there is no way civilians would be allowed to wander off like the Cody's were. Considering the circumstances there would be no issue in terms of using deadly force to deal with the Cody's once in a warehouse. I knew of a real life situation where a civilian worker who had been employed on the base for decades wandered outside of a yellow line going from his work station to a break room. Not far but maybe just a foot outside the designated line. He was promptly pulled into a darkened room and placed literally under a bright light being questioned for 24 hours before being released. His family was not notified right away but was finally told he was being detained a few hours prior to his release. The next day he went back to his routine much wiser. The general deployment at such a base does not allow for perimeter guards to become isolated or cut off plus make decisions as to what is serious or not. Being near a major highway trying to take a piss near the fence would get you brought in for a day's worth of questioning. Animal Kingdom is pretty much a dirtbag fantasy and not much more. I met Doohan while he was making appearances around college towns back in late 1985. He made it clear he was not awash in cash back then. I remember the comment he made about his garage being in need of work. I don't think he had a contract in place for STIV when I talked to him but at that point it seemed like it was in the books for production. All in all he seemed like a genuinely warm person but not everybody's fate as an actor is to have success after success and maybe that is what ate at him. Still I am happy that I got to shake his hand. I had ample time to talk to him versus a convention setting. Another aspect of the show that was grounded in pure fantasy. Traditional parents Howard and Marion would not want such a person to be around their kids for that reason (as an example to their kids) among others. If Howard were dirt poor then he would have needed a boarder but he owned his own business and mom and pop hardware stores did very well back then. Mr Godsey I believe died before the 1950's if my memory is working properly. There was a late season episode about him having a heart attack and believe it was said that he did not live all that many years afterward. I believe that he was just a little older than John Sr so it was weird he was a bachelor until the mid-1930's. Assuming he was born around 1895 he would have been 55 by 1950. Not deathly old but given the times it would not be a surprise that he did not live past age 55. I would guess that Ike was a Southern Democrat in that he had conservative views but carried a family grudge towards Republicans over Reconstruction. I like Barrows and also like the story for actress Emily Banks whose granddaughter had to put up with male coeds drooling over grandma while she was in college. A personal yeoman for Kirk was an idea that faded by the second half of the first season. I can't think of one past the Japanese woman from A Taste of Armageddon. Phyllis Douglas's character from The Galileo Seven most likely was a Yeoman as she did not offer any scientific expertise on the mission to investigate the quasar. Kind of weird given that yeomen in the navy were almost exclusively men so some people probably got the wrong idea about yeomen in real life. She filled out her hottie outfits such as the floral print catsuit very well. I'm sure that the sales for Frederick's of Hollywood and Victoria Secrets spiked after that movie. It got very crappy after a couple seasons and it was not that great to start with. There was a thread here that really laid it bare in terms of all the improbabilities with the show. It talked about things like Fonzie would have been marginalized due to ethnicity and kids would not be out late among other things. Agreed. Going from the 1950's to the 1970's was jarring in a lot of ways. Not much different from 2006 to 2021. People no longer wear jeans with flaps on the back pockets but that is about it. Standard practice for series television from a production standpoint. Giving a character one look makes editing easier to do saving money. Archie Bunker always wore a white button down shirt with brown slacks which I thought was pretty weird but they stuck with it unless Archie needed to dress formal for some occasion. A lot was revealed for the "These are the voyages...." books that came out quite a while ago albeit from the vantage point of studio production people. I am not sure what stone is left to be turned over. Roddenberry went from being revered during the books of the early 1970's to being reviled when stars who had made their careers felt the need to speak out after Roddenberry passed on. Evidently, humans can be accustomed over time just like NFL players who play in Denver get used to the air pressure at the high elevation. Also, Spock's mother does not regularly engage in mortal combat which helps. McCoy stood there just fine while Kirk and Spock battled. The central character getting himself and his/her associates into trouble is the premise of most episodes of series television. Otherwise a series that had maybe 150 episodes would be reduced to a half dozen. Every episode of the 1960's Batman television series depends on it. If Batman was the least bit wary and cautious the series would have been cancelled after a couple of episodes. I call BS on not having seen much of ST:TOS by Shatner. He claimed back at the time he sat down and watched every minute of every episode ahead of the Sci-Fi Network's special for the series around 20 years ago where people associated with the show gave commentary during the bumpers between commercials and the scenes. As the other poster said at this point in time he may remember very little. He has always claimed that he remembered very little and that I believe. He is not a very sentimental guy in terms of looking back. It happens. Not all of a guy's friends likes the wife of the friend. Also, I think it was made obvious Dwight did not have many social skills to start with. Where I live a person is not buying ground beef for under 5 dollars per pound. Chicken is still a deal at 2 dollars per pound boneless breasts. I need to find more recipes for chicken. The only dumb thing is the opening OP of this thread. If you are going to be WOKE then you can't criticize the show for avoiding the Vietnam War and criticize Nabors' sexual orientation at the same time. CBS and Nabors made a ton of money of off this show. So much so that Nabors retired to Hawaii. So who is the dumb one? Sitcoms especially back then were not down for making social statements and Gomer Pyle USMC was no different. Also, an FYI there were people in the military whose assignment was something other than Vietnam. A number of them manned bases in the US while others manned posts such as Pearl Harbor and West Germany for example. Even though I am from the Northeast most people here back then could not afford beef on a regular basis just like in the South. My dad and uncle always commented that chicken was on the table quite a bit when they were kids. And back then when chicken was on the menu it meant going out to the chicken coop to slaughter a bird or two starting with cutting their heads off. Getting hungry?