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Why didn't the film crew at the start..
Could the girl in the glasses have played Rachel?
So who exactly was Terri at the start?
Few Thoughts..
2 Thing's I've always Wondered about Trish:
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Indeed.. currently re-watching this for a review series I'm planning and dang if Bond isn't incompetent as heck during the whole act at the horse sales. He struggles to keep the charade up even from the start.. he is lucky those sound dudes were being sold by the tapes he plays in his room. His entire talking points at that first night gathering were awful. First he was awkward as hell to everyone.. it's painful to watch. He gets caught like an idiot going out of Max's office; no reason why he should have went in there with Max at the party itself. He got lucky when he ran into the Nazi scientist guy and he managed to sweet talk him to the point he got a chance to meet Max.. and oh boy you are right. He honestly sent Max's bells off by changing the subject like that.. Max is goofy and loony enough to get what he was doing and Bond never had a chance after that. Then he harasses Stacey like a weirdo and it gets May Day's attention..
You couldn't ask for a worst first time meeting if one tried.. it put a look at me sign on him he never lost. Then came the night time trick into the steroid lab where they stupidly put that vile in the wrong hole.. hands down one of the stupidest mistakes in the entire series Bond has made. Plus he didn't help matters by being in May Day's room like that.. it made Zorin jealous and want to figure out who he was. So stupid!
It's a great psychological end to that movie.. it's so more deep and real than the OG's end was. That movie's ending was slightly goofy.. it is implied Sue has serious mental issues after that, but that dream kinda ruins it all besides being a great jump scare. She just screams her lungs out with that goofy music cue and the movie just stops..
This one meanwhile is a solid and subtle look into how tragic events and heartbreak ruins people. Poor Jesse was spiritually and soulfully broken by that point; and that dream breaks him even more. That thousand yard stare he has breaks my heart everytime I watch this movie.. the whole mirror effect is goofy as is the CGI but honestly for 1999 it wasn't bad. It's miles better than that awful CGI snake they tried.
Jason London acts his butt off in that scene too; he sells the heartbreak and lost look so dang good.
Because she was a loony tune and a coward. By the end of the movie she flat out denies reality in terms of Jesse not being into her and she goes flat out psychotic with the plan and the attempts to stall him. Anyone not naïve or foolish could guess after a little bit she would have had something to do with his car being destroyed.. and that's without not seeing her drop the spraycan paint. It's a little too convenient she showed up when she did.
That's the one regret I have with Jesse's character.. he's rather dumb in that scene. He too foolishly gives in to her there instead of wising up he just lets her do what she does. Besides that he's a fantastic character.
Ehh I wouldn't say she chanced into meeting her. More than likely she probably stalked her around waiting for a chance to run into her and she made the most of it. Couldn't ask for a better time for her to waltz in, save her, build her trust up, and use it as a way to get in with her. That girl sold the lie really well too.. her and her other girlfriend really made Rachel seem in the group especially with the car ride to the party. Couldn't ask for a better job of selling anything.
As for the scout that was destined to happen as he was a top star of that area.. there were probably several schools wanting him they just happened to be there that day. That was def a pure fluke though of lucky timing for them to do their car sabotage.
I agree overall that I can see it being their goal to bring Jesse and Tracy back together.. the latter lacked a grip on reality though by that point she was flat out mental as Wayne Campbell would say. Jesse was 100% into Rachel and nothing was gonna change that by that point; their souls connected and they were intimate. They were as good as married by that point; nothing frigid Tracy could do to change it. I do also agree too they were probably gonna humilate him by the end.. he stood up to the main dude with that scuffle in the locker room earlier in the movie so they knew he was turning against them. It woulda been a "either dump her or you're gonna go down too," choice but I see Jesse going with Rachel no matter what.
As much as I love the climax and how it went part of me wishes they had included him there like they wanted to do. It woulda made their final moment together a little more powerful especially if he had fought back vs those guys to get to Rachel again instead of wondering up on it all after it happened.
I always took it as he was able to slide away after he took the fight to them and they couldn't handle it. He forced the plane and it's propeller right at all those guys and they were scared of him by the end because it was obvious he wasn't gonna stop. The real incompetent ones (even the cab driver,) drove after him but all that did was to mess up that hangar and cause tons of $ in damage they couldn't pay.
I always imagined after he pissed Bell off and slid out (he might have gotten cursed out by the teacher in a taste of what Felix had,) he got into one of those henchmen cars and drove off and found Felix. It's not a hard getaway by that point.
As for Solitare she realized she was trapped and tried to sell that she was a victim and taken against her will to make it easy for James to get out.
You have to remember that Vicki was JUST like Eddie; she talked like him and was super silly in her own right.. she probably wasted it on stupid stuff or Club Areola ripped her off of it through a contract. She woulda been so silly that she wouldn't have looked it over before signing it. The spending money part wouldn't surprise me either as she did know the clothes stores pretty well after all since that woman was willing to help Audrey find all kind of stuff.
Just watched it for the first time on HBO.. agreed 100% Their HD master of the movie looked really good too.
This would be perfect for either Warner Archive or Shout Factory to put out.
They knew what was going on.. you could see that by their actions about halfway in. Quite a few of them freaked out and hid when the curfew announcer came on; they looked like they had been terrorized before about it. The hotel manager seemed to be in cahoots with Cochran it showed during the misfire scene. Starker was the only one who felt like disobeying the BS and he paid for it with his head.
I doubt the town itself were robots because Cochran admitted it took him forever to figure out how to get the robots to work and act all human. Ellie was his grand invention in terms of that; she was his first and only female robot. No way he could get an entire town into robots if it took him that long to figure out. He just scared the townsfolk into submission and got the workers brainwashed to be helping him.
Easy as pie when you have the money and cult of personality. Anything's possible.
Honestly Douriff's one of the main bright spots of the movie.. this one showed why he was cast and how good he is. His breakdown scene's probably the most realistic one I've seen in a movie; he just breaks mentally and can't handle it. It's painful to watch and so realistic.
He's the only real hero of the story; Loomis was to a point in the first one (he was still a fame whore in it too,) but in this one he's worthless until the final climax. He did everything he could to save those two but fate just wouldn't allow it. Annie was too stubborn for her own good.. they offered to take her away and everything but she wouldn't go. So dumb. Laurie allowed herself to get drunk which was dumb. Granted Brackett really shoulda told Laurie her truth a lot earlier but honestly in his defense how hard would that be considering what all she went through? He was in a rock and a hard place. It's his dumb fault; he shoulda never told Loomis but I guess he woulda found out anyways somehow if he didn't.
Brackett did the best he could; those 2 were just cursed.
I do too a point.. she did try to get them to quit but they were so macho they couldn't. That being said she didn't do anything much besides whine and yell; if she really wanted them to stop she coulda done more.
Honestly any smart person woulda tried to set a trap and call the cops because killing animals and property of someone's really morally wrong and against the laws. They coulda caught Mikey then and there.. case solved. Or probably not; but she wouldn't have died though. She did that to herself.
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