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"so, let's see all those article claiming that "BLM related violence is free speech". take your time." It's in the constitution. "otherwise you can not speak of "allow". also, the general public and the police did not have a problem with the violence??? i would love to see proof of that." What more proof do you need than to see them chanting their hatred without a single club trying to smash their skulls open? They were completely open and free to spew their hatred and no one did a single thing about it. Because that was their right. And everyone else knew it. "so, being against genocide is being against free speech? you are so cute." Sure. That's it. "The legal side is not in debate, ONLY the moral side. Destroying a deliberate sign of hatred is not an immoral act, imo, and that is my argument." No, your argument is predicated on vandalism being used for both good and bad. I'm explaining to you why your argument is foolish and uneducated. The symbolism of destroying a symbol of hate, isn't immoral in and of itself. It's when that symbol belongs to someone who paid for it. That's when destroying it becomes immoral. Because as much as it is immoral to preach hatred, it's equally immoral to silence those that preach it. "Well yeah, the word "murder" is carrying the moral side of the equation. It's the same physical act as killing. ALSO, murder is sometimes morally ambiguous. Certain criminals who go to prison are murdered for their crimes by other inmates, and many in society celebrate this, even though the criminal did not kill anyone and are not a threat to society while in prison." Saying that killing in self defense and murder are the same because killing is involved, is like saying sex is the same as rape, because intercourse is involved. If you can't separate these two acts from one another, its not I that suffers from a moral identity crisis. "I do not consider it immoral to vandalize a hateful sign someone puts up in their yard, even though it would be a crime to do so. That's where this entire debate started and you literally CAN'T dispute that because that is my moral view of the situation." So then I ask again, is it moral to dowse a mosque in pig's blood? If someone did that, would you be on their side? "it wasn't? where? " Everywhere. It was considered "free speech". Which it was. No one took issue with it or tried to stop them with physical violence. Just like how it's supposed to be. "oh, so they announced that they would do that upfront? link?" What are you talking about? So who announced that they would do what upfront? "sure, to a klan member everybody that is against genocide is a clown." No, just everybody that is against free speech. "wow, so you admit that you have no arguments and have to derail the discussion? well, at least that's honest. first time? how does it feel?" Wow, so you have to strawman me in order to try and make a point. Well, at least that's honest. First time? How does it feel? "yeah, one will never occur without the other. xD" I know xD "weren't were talking about nazis? so all conservatives are nazis now? or can't you tell those apart?" I can tell them apart just fine. It's liberals with the problem. As it always is. "that is "hate speech"? example?" No. It's "hypocrisy" example. "while that is despicable, what does that have to do with the subject matter?" By exemplifying liberal hypocrisy. Again. "by that logic you are not allowed to drive a car, because you did not build it." ...what?! How did you get from my argument, to this? What mental gymnastics did you have to go through to equate one of these to the other? "when i write it and you read it, how does your head knows what i sound like and even more interestingly, how do i eventually end up hearing it?" Just keep listening. It did. Now what? Vandalizing a government buildings to protest a fascist government, isn't protesting a fascist government, it's vandalism. The two are not interchangeable. Vandalism is one thing, protesting is another. You don't do one to do the other. The problem with your argument comes with the fact that anyone, at any time, can defend their vandalism as an "act of protesting fascism". If someone is hanging a swastika on their own property, you're saying that anyone who dislikes that flag, has a right to walk on their property, in order to desecrate their flag? For no other reason than not liking it? Or in order to "spread a message"? Where do you draw the line then? Any person can dowse a mosque in pig's blood to "send a message" or to protest a religion that glorifies the death of homosexuals and Jews. Is that ok too? if not why? And more importantly, who decides when it's ok to vandalize and when it's not? As far as killing is concerned, you're wrong. No one ever makes the claim that killing is wrong, I mean how many animals are killed every year by hunters or farmers? No one bat's an eyelash. No one looks at someone killing in self defense and says they were wrong for doing it. It's MURDER that is morally unambiguous. Cold blooded murder is as indefensible as rape is. And everyone agrees on it. There will never be a case where someone claims they killed in cold blood in protest of something because it's a ridiculous claim. That's why people who kill in self defense don't go to jail, and why people who kill in cold blood do. You've built your entire argument on a shoddy foundation. I'm glad you think so highly of yourself as to pat yourself on the back for winning before any such confirmation of your win was made though. Nothing is more cringe inducing than seeing someone congratulate themselves. GG. You LITERALLY JUST CALLED ME A RACIST! Like, in the very same sentence that you asked me how you're doing what I'm doing, you literally JUST accused me of being a racist. No proof to back it up, No evidence to suggest I'm racist, just baseless accusations just being throwing out of your mouth like diarrhea. You're hopeless. But You're doing THE EXACT SAME FUCKING THING YOU INBRED MUTANT! How are you this fucking retarded that you can't see how every criticism you have of me you can equally apply to yourself? When in the living fuck did I condone racism? When in the living fuck did I condone the driver smashing into pedestrians? When did I condone violence of ANY kind? I'm the ONLY one here that seems to be calling out actual violence you fucking moron. While you call me a racist for defending the nazis right to protest and spew their "hate speech", you simultaneously defend Antifa for starting all of this! Let's get one thing straight, you don't have to like the hate propaganda those Nazis were shouting during their protest, I don't either. But they were WELL within their rights to do it. The protest was entirely peaceful, and they had a perm. As per their constitutional rights, they did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG. The problem occurred, as it always does, when radical liberals liberals decided to take it upon themselves to use violence to shut them down. THAT CAN NEVER BE OK! Left or right it doesn't fucking matter, they violated their right to protest. It wasn't Trump supporters that yanked Clinton supporters out of their cars and beat them to a bloody pulp for their different opinion. It wasn't Trump supporters that set Berkely on fire for the speakers' different opinion. It wasn't conservatives in Toronto that pulled the fire alarm on UofT campus for the speakers' different opinion. It was liberals. It's always liberals. Liberals are the most hateful, intolerant, evil fascistic tyrants in the world right now. And everyone knows it. The very fact that I will defend a Nazi's right to free speech and protest, is disregarded by you as me being a Nazi sympathizer, is proof. You have no problem accusing me of being something I'm not, but the moment I do the same to you, you take issue? This is why you liberals are a hypocritical cult of filth. You call out the right for protests demanding racial purity. I call out the left for protests demanding the death of cops. And somehow, your willful ignorance to the stain on the left is me shifting the goalpost with "whatabouts". So me showing you the exact same evils committed by your side, is me "deflecting". But you know what? At least cops, and conservatives allowed liberals the right to say those disgusting things without any hassle. Unlike the antifa thugs that came at the nazi protest with bats and violence. The only thing worse than being a Nazi is being a liberal. Of course it works. It works because you never defend it. Because you know you can't. You know damn well that you're no better than the Nazis that you shun. Just because you happen to wear a hammer and sickle instead of a Swastika, doesn't mean you're not a hateful, bigoted, racist Nazi. The whataboutisms are the only thing that display the overwhelming and sickening hypocrisy of liberals. This alludes to what I said earlier about how liberals will attack Hitler for his view and actions, but will defend Fidel Castro and Che Guevera. Hate speech is only considered violence when its being spewed by conservatives. When it's being spewed by liberals then it's ok. Just like how Meryl Streep champions herself as some womens' liberation feminist guru and then turns around and signs a petition pardoning Roman Polanski for his rape of a minor. Just like how JK Rowling and George Clooney virtue signal about saving the poor refugees and then out of their multiple villas and mansions can't be bothered to take in one single innocent fleeing war in the middle east. It's nothing but talk from you lot. You love the sound of your own voice but when it comes time to act you run with your tail between your legs. Cowards. "in promoting genocide" Then why wasn't it considered violence when Black Lives Matter marched down the streets chanting "what do we want? DEAD COPS! When do we want'em? NOW!" Or perhaps when they marched chanting "Pigs in a blanket! Fry'em like bacon!" Why did both the general public AND police allow them to march chanting that kind of filth, or rather, "violence" without a single problem? "it's the fault of people that promote genocide" You're a clown. Reasons good or bad?!?! Are you fucking kidding me right now?! So you're actually DEFENDING IT?! Tha people can actually have their property, that they paid for, destroyed for GOOD REASONS?! I can't believe what I'm reading right now. I'm completely at a loss for words. No, antifa started the fight. They always do. Everywhere they show up, they commit assault, battery, arson, and vandalism. They're nothing more than a bunch of thugs. You seem to have no problem with violence being committed as long as it's the "right kind" of violence. Just like how liberals have no problem calling how tyranny when it's Hitler. Of course Hitler was a bad guy right? No one seems to disagree. But suddenly their same criticisms of him go away when talking about Che Guevera and Fidel Castro. Suddenly they are revered as freedom fighters. Violence is only ok as long as it's your brand of violence. The definition of fascism. It IS worse you idiot. If I call you the n-word, are you saying that's worse than if I slash your tires? Then explain how the protest remained peaceful until antifa showed up? Where was the violence until antifa showed up? They showed up in riot gear because there is a history of antifa attacking them onsite whenever they practice their rights. Who's fault is that? Liberals have a recent history of starting violence against anyone who doesn't agree with them. Ionic that they call themselves anti-fascists. You ABSOLUTELY have every right to say I have no right to live. You're wrong, and I may look at you like you're kind of a mental case, but you have ever right to say it. And I have no right to attack you for it. The moment you try to make a move on me, is the moment you breach your first amendment rights. And if you attack me, I have EVERY right to attack you back in self defense. That's ALSO protected under the constitution. If I say I hate black people to a black person's face, I know, and they know, I have every right to say it. Do I know that I could get a punch to the face? Sure, but that doesn't mean it's legal, or justified. The onus is on black people to control their impulsive want to punch me in the face. I feel like I'm spoonfeeding you basic civil behavior here. Like teaching little children not to hurt eachother on the schoolyard. Is this for real? No wonder America is in such bad shape. They weren't SAYING what they want to, THEY WERE ATTACKING THEM FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!!!! How are you not getting this? If nazis said what they wanted, and antifa said what they wanted back, there would be no physical conflict. The physical conflict started when THEY THREW THE FIRST PUNCH! That's not them practicing free speech, that's them practicing violence. That is NOT PROTECTED UNDER THE FIRST AMENDMENT! On the contrary. The first amendment ensures their SAFETY without worry of physical harm. I'm not even American and I seem to know more about your constitution than you do. Vandalism IS worse than racism you idiot! One is physical, the other is NOT! People have every right in America to be racist, so long as they don't physically attack people over their beliefs! Do I really have to explain this to you?! You do NOT however, have any right to start destroying tax-paid public property over a difference in beliefs. How is this not computing with you? This is the most basic of common sense. Except it's NOT when the first amendment isn't being respected on both sides! If Nazis say hate speech, that's their right. If you call them nazis for saying it, that's your right. But once you start physically attacking them for saying it? Like antifa and BLM did during the protest, THEY ARE COMPLETELY INFRINGING ON THE FIRST AMMENDMENT! OF COURSE they aren't being persecuted for protesting you fucking moron, they had a LEGAL FUCKING PERMIT TO DO IT! That's been my ENTIRE FUCKING POINT THIS WHOLE TIME!