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"Even so, how would he get home? He likely would not have access to a security coded computer or communication system."
The entire ending to the film is purposefully ambiguous. The story is essentially already over when Ava gains freedom. What happens to her after she experiences her first intersection, what happens to Caleb, how is Nathan's stronghold supplied, even if the helicoptor pilot isn't allowed to get closer than the landing spot, etc. etc. etc.
All of those questions and details are unimportant to the story told once it's completed.
This has been answered by user 'xenopharb', but people keep discussing it and that user's reply is buried, so I'm replying to the OP to hopefully bubble to the top.
Caleb wasn't trapped in Nathan's room by Ava having turned the power on or off.
He was trapped because in desperation, he tried to access Nathan's workstation with his own keycard.
As Nathan explained earlier in the film, Caleb's card does not have access to all areas. It's not unreasonable to believe that Nathan's workstation would have more than just a red-light and rude beep, like a door that Caleb is not allowed to open. His own workstation could easily have stronger protocols, such as locking the room.
And the security systems around Nathan's workstations are different from the power-outage systems.
With the power back on, his security systems on his workstation would work normally, locking the room on any attempt for unauthorized access to his workstation.
Why do you think that was CGI?
Then you really need to read the book. A lot of the make-up (especially the fake asian makeup) was done that way on purpose. In the book, they called it 'face scaping' and it was a fashion in the Neo Seoul future.
But go ahead and continue telling us how the film didn't do the book justice, without having read it.
So if you want to see some kind of resolution, you can watch season 2 of the French version "The Returned (Les revenants) (2012)".
Most of us that were fans of the French version were disappointed in the 2nd season, but at least there was some kind of closure.
I think they're complaining that Netflix even aired a show that was cancelled before it completed the story arc.
I watched it when it first aired (after watching the French version) and was disappointed when it was cancelled at the end of only 1 season.
So it's really weird that Netflix would pick it up and sell it to their audience. "Here, have a story, only we're not going to tell you that it has no ending". I would certainly be pissed.
"A half-finished book is, after all, a half finished love affair." -- Robert Frobisher, Cloud Atlas
Wrong. It very much reflects the French version. In fact, I have friends that stopped watching it after 3-4 episodes because it brought nothing new ("they're repeating it scene by scene, it's like the same exact show, same characters, same dialog").
Of course, after that, it gets a lot better. I LOVED the French version so didn't have much hope for this one, but then it turned out to be great.
Then the 2nd season of the French show came a long and it sucked.
So I was hoping that the US version would come along to clean up, but it just didn't make enough money to continue.
I don't see how, knowing how season 2 ended.
I wasn't annoyed with the first season at all -- I thought it was very intriguing!
But that was of course with the promise of answers / completion in the next season, which never really came or just wasn't very satisfying. It's like they took so long between the two seasons that they lost their way... or just didn't care any more.
So I very much agree with the title of this thread: you could just watch the first season and then walk away with the knowledge that you saw a well done season that saw no decent ending.
No, the director's cut is definitely Richard Kelly's doing, his vision. I recommend seeing it at least once, even if you go back to prefering the theatrical cut, because it fills in a lot of gaps. I personally prefer to the DC.
Yeah. And now, we may never find out.
Most of us will not cancel our memberships over a single show. I won't. They know this.
Yes. I just watched this again last night and it really came off as not convincing at all.
Agreed. I'm just about done with S3 and I've come to see this. It really is better.
Part of it is that all of the characters are so developed now, some scenes can do without dialog. We know what Cassie meant when she nodded at Cole at the end of that EP (3?) where she finally comes back after being in Titan (spoiler ahead), "[Spoiler]Yes, The Witness is our son[/Spoiler]".
But it's more than that. The writing is smoother. It's just a more mature team doing the show now.
No, there's no dumbing down. I have no idea what the poster means by that. The one thing they stopped doing was coming back from a mission and saying "We're still here, so that didn't work". The story lines are more complex than that now, actually.
I did however find EP5 to be goofy. I felt like I was watching an episode of The Librarians, and I don't mean that as a compliment. I hope that doesn't happen again.
Is it really only 10 EP long this season though? S2 was 13.
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There is a petition to keep Netflix from cancelling it:
https://www.change.org/p/netflixlat-netflix-sense8-sense-8-season-3-renewal
I think the most interesting aspect of the main characters defeatist attitude is that so many of his stances and lessons to his sons (especially Cory) were just wrong, in respect to fighting for rights. The world was changing and of course we know now that it would have been an excellent time for Cory to get into a ball team (especially with an interested scout).
So many things proved Troy wrong, even getting his own promotion to driver wasn't enough.
Not that racism was then or is now gone...
"a day in a life of a scumbag dad"
Then you completely misunderstood the story. It was about not just the dad with all of his properties and baggage, but with the entire cast. The family members, extended family, friends, trials and tribulations of african americans at the time. at home and in the job, etc. etc.
The story was a drama, and a 7/10 is a fair score (what I give it).
I'm not sure what you don't get about racism. I could have told you way back when this was first announced that it was a going to be be A LOT of noise from the racists.
Visit any of the forums here for films / TV shows that feature black people (and other non-whites) and you'll find the racists there.
Also, remember the trolls. All racism aside, the trolls (I mean the real ones who are only out here to push buttons, not the people that are simply racist or simply have a caustic posting style), those trolls KNOW that this is a hot button. It's too easy for them to stir up trouble when a film has a predominantly black or female principle cast.
And this one has BOTH.
So it ain't white people that are threatened by this film -- it's racists of any color.
Good thing this film isn't a Costner vehicle. You can safely enjoy the film on the merits of the 3 principle actresses and other supporting cast members.
No. It's not that I needed them to end up together or to have an happy ending. I wanted it to be a more satisfying ending / last act regardless of how they ended up.