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I don't think there is anything wrong with looking as young as you can. But let's face it, some DO go too far
(Dyan Cannon's navel must be on her forehead by now).
I don't care for The Lucy Show, but Ball DID look slim and fantastic.
I could pass for ten years younger than I am if my hair wasn't so gray (I still have plenty of dark on top,
but - sheesh! - the sides are SO gray! And I think men who dye their hair look like game show hosts!
It's never believable on men when they dye! (Thank God my other body hair hasn't turned gray!!).
PJ, I've always had a mental picture of you as Blonde! Not sure why. But then I always thought you
wore PURPLE pajamas!
Bewitched was just as frequent, if not, more so. In the show's eight year run, they changed the wallpaper every two
seasons; the furniture and general décor three times. They even remodeled and expanded the kitchen!
I think the adhesive tapes were a clever way of getting around real facelifts, although I would guess it would
take a fair amount of time to "evenly" lift Ball's face, so both sides were even and she didn't look like a stroke
victim.
In watching the old "Get Smart" shows (and...loving it!), I'm reminded that Barbara Feldon wore blue eye
shadow, but she was a much younger woman, and the color complemented her blue eyes, dark hair and often
bizarre outfits.
My Dad lined very early in life (late 30's) while my Mom's skin has always been smooth. I'm lucky I take after
her (my brother, who is four years younger than me, is more lined than I am!) As a male, I'm grateful I still
have all my hair - I just wish it wasn't so gray!! But I count my blessings - several longtime male friends are
completely bald!
Well, Lucy WAS a clown on The Lucy Show, so maybe "clownish" makeup suited her.
But I agree with Steven on two points: Lucy did look better in this second series than in the last year of ILL, and
especially the hour-long shows. Due to stress, Ball put on some weight, which she lost by the time of The Lucy
Show. Also, Ball balked at any kind of plastic surgery, so she wore a big band under wig, just above her forehead,
which lifted her face, albeit temporarily. I thought Ball looked quite stunning in her 50's. Too bad her best TV
work was a decade behind her.
Second point: Yes, Lucy "lightened" her red hair, beginning in the Hollywood saga. It's much lighter, for instance,
in the Hedda Hopper ep, than, in say, season three's "Baby Pictures." Just run the opening scenes of both,
back to back, and it's pretty obvious.
Most of my friends are women. One is about 5'2, another 5'3, and my very best friend is just 4'10. My one male
best friend is about 5'9...so, "in short", I tower over them all.
I noticed many years ago that Ricky wore BLOCKS for heels. It's very obvious, but it was understandable, as he
was the MALE star (and executive producer) of a 1950's TV show.
Only in the last few years have I realized how tall Vivian Vance was. She looks only about half an inch shorter than
Ball when they are standing side by side in flats. In "The Charm School", when Lucy and Ethel are being "graded"
by Phoebe Emerson, Lucy is wearing her open-toe high heels, while Ethel is in flats. She doesn't look much shorter!
As for fingernails, Ethel seems to only have nicely groomed, well-manicured, but polish-free nails.
I don't think a woman looks "un-groomed" without long nails or polish, but the nails should be well-manicured.
What I CANNOT cotton to are tattoos, especially on women. It is a very trashy look to me, even if she only has
one on her back or leg. Now for males, one or two can be sexy, depending upon who the guy is. But I just
can't stand them on women.
Before anyone calls me "sexist", keep in mind that I also dislike the "man bun." It may be hip, but guys who
wear 'em look like a drip. To me, anyway.
Wow. I feel pretty dumb. Of COURSE one needs longer nails if they play the guitar. I'm no musician, but I should've
known better.
The height thing was always an issue for men in the old days. Fred Astaire, who was 5'7, insisted Ann Miller and
Cyd Charrise wear flats whenever they danced with him. Gene Kelly, also 5'7, detested working with Esther Williams
because she couldn't dance and was too tall for him.
In the extras section of the Get Smart box set, Barbara Feldon said she almost lost the role of agent 99 because she
was two inches taller than Don Adams. She was in her stocking feet in medium/close shots and wore flats when her
whole body was shown.
I stand 6 feet, so height was never an issue for me. I've also been attracted to men shorter than myself. Not sure
why.
Recipe??? You're kidding, right? I've never even owned a cookbook! I'm not a great cook, but
I play around with things.
A dear friend of mine told me how simple it was to make the broccoli dish. She said boil angel
hair pasta, carefully steam the broccoli, so it isn't too soft. Mix in the angel hair, then sprinkle
with GOOD quality parmesan cheese. (Now, be sure and grab a pencil for this complex recipe;
you don't want to FORGET it).
My taco one involves frying corn tortillas (I much prefer these to "soft" tacos), then frying a
pound of ground beef (again, I prefer this to chicken or beef) in the standard Mexican packaged
powder with a fourth cup of water. I simmer for about 30 minutes (at least), then stir in two
kinds of hot salsas I purchase at Vallarta's. Next, I add finely cut cherry tomatoes, finely
chopped onions, then add the four-cheese Mexican shredded cheese and finely cut iceburg
lettuce.
I usually make a plate of four, so heaping, I use a fork for the filling that inevitably falls out
onto the plate. NO sour cream, as it only adds more calories, and I'm not crazy about it.
Since I live alone, this lasts for three meals.
New Yorkers are known to NOT love Mexican food (in 1998, I dated a guy who had just moved
to L.A. from Buffalo, and he had never HEARD of Taco Bell!). Two of my friends from the big apple
STILL dislike it even though they've lived her 40-plus years!
I highly doubt Lucy, Ethel and (especially) Fred didn't like Mexican. But then Ethel was a proud
Midwesterner, so who knows?
I prefer Alfredo sauce over marinara, which has always seemed ho-hum to me.
One simple dish I like to make is pasta with broccoli and olive oil...with just a touch of parmesan
cheese. Simple, but delicious, and easy to make. But I'm trying to lay off of carbs right now (which
is why I rebelled yesterday and ate TWO hotdogs and (most of) of the fries).
Maybe your spaghetti would do the trick. My mom always made a decent homemade spaghetti, but
the only few times I raved about the dish was when it was made by REAL Italian cooks.
Must admit that the spaghetti Lucy eats in "L.A. at Last" looks very good. Lucy was known to hate
commissary food, and insisted that all dishes to Desilu be catered in, although I doubt that was
her concern when eating during filming. I always wonder if they made that one spaghetti noodle
extra long so Ethel could cut into it!!
I don't think I've ever had Cuban food, but being from L.A., I LOVE Mexican food, and consider it
my all-time favorite. (and not to brag, but you haven't lived until you've tasted my homemade
tacos. My one specialty).
Cupid's Hotdogs must be an L.A. thing, I guess. My mom worked close to one, and used to bring us
Cupid's when we were kids and home sick. Their menu is pretty simple - just mustard and onions, or
chili dogs. And they're basically just a stand, with some outdoor seating. We thought it was a real
treat as kids.
Yesterday, however, against my better judgment, I ordered a couple of mustard dogs and some fries
to go (of-COVID-course). I enjoyed them, but had to throw out the rest of the fries, as I got
a gnarly attack of heart burn. Pretty painful, but that's what I get for eating such fare at my age.
As for spaghetti and meatballs, I've always found that a rather bland dish. I prefer lasagna!
Well, "words" obviously failed YOU. (That's your best defense?). I take it you weren't a journalism major.
Also, Ricky was never a particularly great cook, or so we're led to believe, depending upon the episode. And since
Lucy was just going to dress up and co-host, that left Fred and Ethel. Ethel could cook, Fred far less so. But
THESE two were going to serve up Cuban dishes?
The band members seemed only interested in hamburgers, hot dogs, and hot cakes. I guess Ricky's concoction
of a squashed banana tortilla (YUCK!) didn't catch on.
Eggs: I like scrambled eggs, hardboiled eggs and even a good fried egg sandwich. It's runny yolks that gross me
out. Remember that scene in the original "Rocky" where he drinks raw eggs every morning? NO AMOUNT of
money would suffice my playing such a scene, as it would be impossible for me to keep them down!
Today, I treated myself to some Cupid's hotdogs and some fries, a real treat when I was a kid. Well, after eating
THAT as an adult, I had the worst heartburn I've had in a long time. Serves me right, I suppose.
You're probably right, but it's hard to believe Ricky wouldn't be needed most of the day in preparation of the diner, and
then running it (even if running it, meant just greeting people). He'd still need to rehearse, do his show, then come home
at 3:00 A.M. to sleep.
In "The Indian Show", Ethel mentions that the club is "miles from here" (home). I sense the diner must've been
very close to the club, otherwise all of Ricky's band members wouldn't be able to get back to work soon enough. Same
thing with Ricky.
They don't say what hours the diner is open, but it must've been open for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Mrs. Trumbull
must've ADOPTED Little Ricky that week!
A fun show...and another that's got its shares of holes.
I could see them shopping separately (there was already a sort of competitive nature to the situation, so it wasn't like
normal shopping).
What I find hard to swallow is that since both girls assumed the other was taking back her dress, I think it's a little
difficult to buy the women not seeing each other until they went on the air.
Also, wouldn't have Charlie Appleby gone berserk when he saw them wreck that time slot??? I guess, as in other
shows, Ricky would've had to have convinced Charlie that it was a comedy routine.
Speaking of dresses, I think it's strange that Lucy is still wearing her (then new) elegant two-piece dress (the one I
feel looks like a chocolate brown top and gold gown) with flats and an apron while doing Little Ricky's laundry! She
changed costumes between scenes a lot on the show, so I think it's weird they didn't have Lucy change into a "house
dress" after the club meeting.
I used to like "An Unlocked Window", but every time I watch it, it wears thinner and thinner. First of all, by today's
standards, it's more than obvious that the new nurse is a man in drag. Maybe audiences were fooled in 1964,
but I don't think they would be today.
Furthermore, that drunken maid, or whatever she is, is so utterly annoying, I always WANT the nurse to kill her!!
The very last shot, and the sequence itself, is still spooky, as Dana Wynter's character is very sympathetic and we
want her to survive, but, of course, she does not. (It's even more erie that the bed-ridden guy and the passed-out
drunk must've been killed right after!).
Agree one hundred percent. This royally ass-kissing "prologue" sets viewers up. Instead of just enjoying this beautifully
made musical as is, it puts first-time viewers in a defensive, critical mode, and creates an intrusion on open-minded
viewing.
There is NOT one thing "racist" about this gorgeous film. The characters are endearing, touching, and utterly human.
And the numbers are sensational.
I love this episode too, but do not agree it should've been a two-parter. It plays fine as a 25-minute show.
Yes, while it's hard to believe that the girls (Ethel, in particular) could've laid their hands on that much cash without
their hubby's knowing about it (especially in 1953), I always figured the women owned and sold the business in
a matter of days, and were able to put the money right back in the bank before the guys noticed.
Some story holes perhaps, but still a fun offering.
As for the Ernie Ford two-parter, yes, it works in two parts, but as funny as it is, they're not episodes I ever
watch very frequently. I like sitcoms to begin/end a story in 25 minutes.
Nah, I think what's hurtin' YOU is you WANT something up your ass - but can't locate anything big enough to give
you your jollies.
Sorry, it's plain awful. I'm not a huge fan of the hour-length AH shows, which, like the hour-long TZ's are mostly padded
and terrible. This is one of them.
And, gee, "they were both about characters who commit murder while drunk, but other than that much different." Give
me a break. In "Never Again", we sympathize with Thaxter's character, and the tragic ending is far more powerful
and says a lot more.
As for Randall, he gets my vote as the unsexiest actor who walked the earth.
No, PJ, 99's "real" name was never revealed. In the third season's "99 Loses Control", 99 decides to live a "real life"
and marry a handsome French gambler (who turns out to be a KAOS agent). During the body of the show, 99 says
her real name is "Susan Hilton." When the episode concludes, 99 reveals to Max that "Susan's not my real name, Max."
If ONLY Bewitched followed suit and had Endora NEVER say "Darrin." One of the show's few great flaws, in my opinion.
Feminists never hated the show - they usually hated it's rip-off, the horrible "I Dream of Jeannie." Samantha was actually
a pre-feminist because she did what she WANTED to do. She had the POWER to do anything, and go anywhere. She
chose a life of discipline, which the best characteristic of either gender. And while we're on the subject, Barbara Feldon's
agent 99 was also pre-feminist. So is Feldon herself.