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Elvis- The King of luring 14 year old girls into bed


https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/3k8z39/elvis-was-the-king-of-treating-women-like-shit-and-luring-14-year-olds-into-bed

Facts not unsubstantiated accusations yet no scathinng media outrage or condemning documentaries.

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Hey, some of us have loathed him for decades!

Except that not buying something for decades is so undramatic that nobody notices.

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Tell that to the blatantly biased media & how their selective reporting & outrage culture is showing its hypocrisy

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I would be happy to bash Elvis, if anyone ever talked about him these days.

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Sure but you're not and the media certainly isn't. Just goes to show how disingenuous this entire orchestrated farce is.

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Actually, the person I hope they "talk about" next is Hugh Hefner.

There's got to be plenty of un-dug dirt for a scandalous documentary there! And none of his prostitutes could possibly like him enough to want to protect him, there have got to be people willing to talk.

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He's another creep who gets a pass from the mainstream. Prostitutes? How about his essentially taking kiddie porn photos of a prepubescent Brooke Shields? One of the many "verified" creeps who arbitrarily get a pass. How odd.

Media: Never mind all that though let's deflect attention on to the discredited & unsubstantiated claims against Michael Jackson as if it were some sort of orchestrated agenda.

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I had never heard that about Brooke Shields. It is extremely disturbing. Author Graham Greene wrote in the 1930s about Hollywood sexualizing Shirley Temple at the time.

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Elvis is a has been and when the 20 yrs is up so will micheal be.

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Fair point.
But it's possible that Elvis' estate really is arse poor - so there's no money to be leeched from that bandwagon.

I side with Jackson's estate in this whole farce lawsuit. MJ was messed up - I heard stories his friends recalled - and his behavior, voice, etc - it was all odd at best. He acted like a 5 year old child in a 40 year old man's body. That tells you there are numerous psychological and mental issues at hand. I have major problems believing that a dude with a mentality of a 5 year old would have much interest in molesting little boys. I'm not saying it's impossible - but rather improbable. Most pedophiles appear to have adult predatorial mindsets - not the mindsets of 5 year olds.

But... MJ kind of brought it all onto himself by having little kids stay over at his place. Then again, I don't expect peeps of 5 year old mentality to know any better.

Hmm - having said that.... just saw this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJaWSdKKvGU
It's a lil bit creepy.
And the video is correct in stating that michael lied to the camera on more than one occasion about plastic surgery, etc.

Here he is repeating the stuff about sharing the bed - but denying he'd ever do anything sexual - looks convincing - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsKSOBehGQc

Bah - i dunno what to make of it all - I ain't taking no sides in this shit hole, but again, when dudes file a lawsuit after the accused is dead, there is no denying that money is the primary motivator.

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Elvis estate being poor has no bearing on why the media/entertainment industry/law have in their hypocrisy collectively remained indifferent about his sexual indiscretions with underage girls.

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When was Elvis taken to court?

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Sounds about right when you have a racist double standard.

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Thats not an answers

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The point is the answer to your question further proves the white media's racist double standard at work here.

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Diddling 14-year-old girls is bad, true, but it really can't compete at all in the shockingly horrifying department with doing the same to 7-year-old boys.

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Yet one is verified and the other is completely unsubstantiated. Somehow the verified case is treated with indifference. It's a disingenuous, hypocritical farce.

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One's verified and the other completely unsubstantiated?

It's based on Prisilla Presley's interview. Just as this is based on the interviews of these two. IOW, the same. It's just that you're willing to believe her, but not the two men. Because racism or something.

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Facts aren't going to go away simply because you choose not to acknowledge them. Anyone can see that your mental gymnastics are patently ridiculous and that you are fully aware of how so utterly full of shit you are.

You've already established yourself as a time wasting sws troll with your "because i said so" logic now doubling down to "splain" away this blatantly racist double standard. Troll elsewhere.

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"Facts aren't going to go away simply because you choose not to acknowledge them. Anyone can see that your mental gymnastics are patently ridiculous [and that you are fully aware of how so utterly full of shit you are.]"

Right back atcha, and throwing ad hominems at me isn't helping you.

Again, for some reason you believe Prisilla in her interview, but not Wade and James' interview. Because reasons.

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https://www.vladtv.com/article/253184/elvis-presleys-wife-priscilla-speaks-on-dating-him-while-she-was-only-14

Precila Presley openly discussed the verified innapropriate relationship with Elvis at 14. Elvis grooming & sexually assaulting 14 year olds was somehow no cause for scorn or outrage then or now. And this was coming from someone who was trying protect his image. Another example of the racist white media's biased agenda & blatant double standard for white artists with worse & confirmed dirty laundry.

Evis. The long verified king of child rape. Not a peep out of the white media talking about boycotting his music & canceling his legacy though.


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Elvis didn't "sexually assault" Priscilla, you illiterate moron. They were dating and didn't have sex until she married him at 22. She never claimed he was abusive until after they were married, when he cheated on her like most other rock and hip hop stars have. Yep, just like thug rappers who remain heroes to the hip hop world like, say, Snoop Dogg, who still gets air time in tv and film.

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I find it odd that the entire world of hip hop aspires to being a "pimp"
A scum sucking sexual slave driver , trafficking in human meat , taking another person's freedom away,
controlling their life through drugs and having men constantly abuse their bodies.

Basically , every hip hop artist is saying "I want to totally abuse woman and wreck their lives"
"cos dat be how a roll"

and seeing as those guys often play their real lives close to their media personas, i guess a lot of em actually do that. or did.

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Details matter. The main controversy, and the only verified one, surrounded Elvis's future wife Priscilla Presely. He met her when she was 14. She herself stated that they never had sex until they were married when she was 22. Even if you disbelieve her very own account, it's still different than Jackson luring boys as young as 7 years old to his "ranch" so he could molest them. It's different and less appalling to any reasonable, sane person, not to pscyhos like you who are endlessly on a race war vendetta. If you're whining about the fact that Elvis was abusive to women and cheated on them, then he's probably among 90% of all famous musicians over the last hundred or more years who have done similarly. You're pathetically transparent as well as uninformed.

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"She herself stated that they never had sex until they were married when she was 22."

The OP isn't one to let facts get in his way.

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Preciilla by her own admission in the video interview & in no way to defame Elvis admits that at 14 she spent nights with Elvis and had intimate physical contact. Even taking into account that this is merely the extent of what she was willing to admit, having sleepover make out sessions with 14 year olds is sexual assault i.e. a crime

The attempts to explain this away only further exposes the insidious racist double standard at work here with sws trash like you.

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It is a crime, but far less sickening and sensationalistic than the pedo crimes of Michael Jackson. Hence the higher degree of media scrutiny, not to mention that nobody has post-posthumously charged Elvis Presley with sexual assault. That may just have a wee bit something to do with it...

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Further proving the racist double standard. Elvis' long established factual crimes are glossed over by the white media but goes nuts over patheticly weak posthumous and evidence devoid accusations by two inconsistet, money chasing verified liars when it comes to defaming a legendary black icon.

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MJ's own sister thought he was a pedophile. Your evidence that Elvis Presley sexually assualted underage girls is what again?

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Deliberate misinformation & innuendo which is typical of agenda driven sws. It's been long established that Lotoya Jackson had long since recanted & vehemently rejected her statements under duress from the early 90s as lies & that her horribly abusive wife beating scumbag husband at the time pushed her to do it


https://www.vladtv.com/article/253184/elvis-presleys-wife-priscilla-speaks-on-dating-him-while-she-was-only-14

Simply choosing not to acknowledge the the information in the provided link verifyig Elvis's illicit contact with a 14 year old Priscilla won't make it go away no matter how inconvenient it may be for your sws agenda.


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wtf is vladtv?

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Yes, he was a disgusting pig. Jerry Lee Lewis was even worse - he married his 13 year old cousin (yuck). Michael Jackson however was the worst. All three men were disgusting.

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Interesting that the only one who was mereley accused & exonerated is somehow worse than the two verified kid diddlers who got away with it in plain sight and are still held in high esteem by the white media & their fans. Such a convenient & decidedly racist racist double standard to have

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That's amazing. So when were the trials of Presley and Jerry Lee Lewis for child molestation? I assume they were convicted and served time.

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One of the things about Presley was that the -- wasn't he a General? -- actually handed over his barely teenaged daughter to Presley on Presley's cross his heart and pinky swear that he wasn't going to take her to bed. Some people thought he had a Madonna/Whore complex, but I wouldn't have bet on no hanky panky going on. And Jerry Lee got a lot of records burned over marrying his cousin, but it didn't completely terminate his career, nor did he have to serve time, to the best of my knowledge. Yes, it's ridiculous. And disgusting.

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Close, he was called the Colonel. I didn't know that. Horrible behaviour.

When did Jerry Lee's record burning happen?

I was just poking fun at the OP, who doesn't believe victims' being interviewed, unless it furthers his agenda. Otherwise it's not credible 😄

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I'm not talking about "the Colonel," that conman who was Presley's promoter/agent, and whom a lot of people think cheated Presley out of millions.

I'll take a quick Google -- Dang! I'm looking up Joseph Paul Beaulieu Jr., Priscilla's stepfather, who handed Priscilla over to Elvis like the various parents were handing their boys over to Michael Jackson. The most I get is that he was an officer in the Air Force.

I don't see why folks would be so impressed by fame. They're still just people. If you wouldn't hand your son or daughter over to an unknown, you shouldn't hand them over to celebrities.

This clip doesn't show the record bonfires, but it does give you an idea that Jerry Lee's version of the events and the facts were two different things: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_0_nXbmAhM

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Ah, I misread what you said, thinking you'd said the Colonel was handing over his own daughter to Elvis.

There is a very strange cult of celebrity here in the States. I was just talking to a friend about this. In the UK the same kind of thing is focused on the Royals; here it's stars of movies and music.

That's one of the reasons I'm so glad this film was made, pulling the veil off to uncover the fallacy of it all, and just how dangerous it can be. People feel like they get to know celebrities, but it's based on whatever the image is that's often carefully orchestrated and only veneer deep.

Then there's the reasonable, but we now know unwarranted, assumption that surely someone who's very famous wouldn't do something terrible because they have too much to lose if it got out. So there's an odd kind of trust formed that way. Unfortunately the flip side of that is they're powerful and can easily claim they're an easy target for extortion, all the accuser is doing is trying to get money for nothing, etc., and many people believe them as a result.

Thanks for that clip. Fascinating. My god, she looks like a child. I found it interesting that DJs banned his music as a result of this. Didn't know any of that.

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She was a child! I think the grand total of 13 years old. In every clip I ever saw of them, she's there chewing gum like she ought to be on roller skates.

I used to argue with people on the Mel Gibson board who swore up and down he was this absolutely wonderful fellow who would never at all be like he was being accused. Why? Because he was just a harmless fellow with a "bad boy" image, but it was really all a joke -- he was lighthearted and easy-going. Anyone could see that. As you said, it's a carefully crafted image.

And on the Michael Jackson board on IMDb when I first dropped in shortly after his death, the true believers were actually discussing whether he was a virgin when he died. And my how they hated Lisa Marie! It never dawned on them that she was the only one he'd had any involvement with who had too much money for him to pay off to keep quiet. She wasn't lying; he couldn't force her into a non-disclosure agreement as part of the divorce.

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At first I thought she was eating a candy bar in that clip! Maybe she was. Any way you look at it, a child.

Yep on Mel Gibson. It's frightening how easily so many of us are fooled by the image celebrities put out there. I have to include myself in that re: MJ. He was so bizarre, he made no sense to me then, except the eccentric man-child thing 🙄

Why did they hate Lisa Marie?? What did she say? In the interviews I've seen of her, I always liked her. She strikes me as being an unusually forthright and no BS sort of person. Which surprised me because she hardly had a normal childhood herself.

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This isn't very complimentary: https://www.elvis.com.au/presley/lisa-marie-playboy-interview.shtml. With the die-hard fans, if you're not gushingly glowing, you're despicable.

Then there's a Rolling Stone interview where she outs him: https://www.elvis.com.au/presley/interview-lisamarie-rollingstone.shtml. If you aren't paying close attention, this can slip right past you. I'm pretty sure they slipped it past her in the interview. Some fast give and take and she's blurted out the truth before she knows it:

Rolling Stone: [regarding that stupid kiss at the 1994 MTV Video Music Awards]: "It seemed like a blatant gimmick to prove -- to start with -- that he was straight."

Lisa Marie: "Yeah, but again, I wasn't looking at it like that. See, if I had been, that wouldn't have ever happened."

Oh, the girls on that IMDb board would stay up nights hating her for that. But Jackson couldn't stop her. There was no amount of money he could promise the woman who inherited Elvis's estate to make her shut up. She was no Debbie Rowe.

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Wow, those are two LONG articles! It's taken me a while to get through them. I had to bail 3/4s through the Rolling Stone interview. It looked like she was through talking about MJ at that point anyway.

She didn't say much I saw I'd think fans would object to in the Playboy interview, but then it sounds like these die-hard fans are so over the top, as you say, if it's not gushingly glowing, it's bad and therefore to be attacked.

I did find the part you quoted interesting, as well as a few others.

"I think it worked for him to manipulate that image for a little while. The hyperbaric chamber thing and all that monkey shit and the elephant shit. It made him mysterious, and I think he thought that was cool. But then it backfired, like it always does."

Like hearing he was gay, and married Lisa Marie as a way to PR spin himself out of it, I also heard he was the one who'd put out to the press about the hyperbaric chamber, etc. Interesting to have that confirmed.

"'I was always saying, 'People wouldn't think I was so crazy if they saw who the hell you really are: that you sit around and you drink and you curse and you're fucking funny, and you have a bad mouth, and you don't have that high voice all the time."

This is also very revealing. What a contrast the carefully constructed image he created was to the real Michael Jackson. I always suspected that wasn't his natural speaking voice. It reminded me of Marilyn Monroe's put-on voice.

"You see a real person who's very much the opposite of what he was presenting'."

She also says she never herself saw him doing anything she thought suspicious with little boys. I believe her.

Last, this:

"I don't know how much he can access love, really. I think as much as he can love somebody he might have loved me. It was always like a mind that was constantly working. It was a scary thing -- somebody who's constantly at work, calculating, calculating, manipulating. And he scared me like that."

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While on the Mel Gibson board, I read a writer about all things celebrity who said the dark, dirty secret about Hollywood reporters is they're trying to make these people look normal to you. Her point was that they were all -- even the best of them -- a little nuts. Another person who's in the business confirmed to me that every time they do an interview, they're "working." Every word they say and how they say it is crafted to enhance that image they're projecting to the public.

As for that voice, I asked on the IMDb MJ board why it was he sounded like a regular kid from the streets when he first started out, and later he had that very mannered voice that was higher than the 12 year old Michael I'd seen interviewed and he'd lost all slang. "Oh, if you hear his brothers, they all sound like that." They just did NOT want to see what was right in front of them.

But the mind that's constantly calculating and manipulating, that's the sign of a sociopath. And from there, it's no leap at all to see that he could be molesting little boys.

Oh, hint: To save time on long interviews, I always hit the "find" command and zero in on the subject I want. Who wants to read about Nic Cage when you're really interested in what she had to say about MJ?

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I can't agree that all celebrities are a little nuts, and are crafting every single publicly spoken word and gesture to create their public image.

I've met quite a few, known two personally. One was a neighbour, another a dear friend. Neither were even a little nuts, and one was one of the finest people I've ever known. He was always just himself.

But I'm sure there are many who do exactly as that writer said, and obviously MJ was one of him. He was an extreme case.

Ha! I noticed the same thing recently while viewing his interviews. In the earlier ones, he sounded like a normal kid. Then, at some point later, maybe late 70s or so, he started using that weird breathy high-pitched voice and very mannered way of speaking.

Sure his brothers speak that way too, but they didn't used to either! Same with Latoya. Janet's voice seemed at least relatively normal, as I remember it.

It was drilled into all of them, early on, to lie and pretend they were the Perfect American Family when the cameras were rolling.

I don't know that I think he was a sociopath. Could have been. Definitely a narcissist, and they have characteristics of sociopaths. Interesting quote, no? At complete odds with that sweet, naive, harmless image he wanted everyone to believe.

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Ur trying so hard to be ridiculous aren't you?

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I'm calling "Whataboutism" on this.

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