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Second to last scene [Spoilers]

posted 5 years ago by BeenSavage (561)
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Between Jesse and Walt. Just seemed too out of character. Around the time of this flashback, Walt was a grumpy asshole and Jesse was extremely wired and defiant. There weren't too many times (if that) where Walt cared that much about Jesse's welfare to even suggest something like school. Whenever he did stick his neck out for Jessie it was for his benefit. On top of this, Paul trying to recapture Jesse's early behavior seemed a little too forced. Despite the fact that this is a flashback, he seemed like he couldn't shake the now-mellow attitude he has in the present. It's almost as if both of them had a hard time getting into character after all these years.

[–] ArmadilloKnight (456) 5 years ago

"Around the time of this flashback, Walt was a grumpy asshole and Jesse was extremely wired and defiant."

I felt the same but...

It was so good seeing them together again, that I didn't even give it a second thought. Guess they didn't want it to be a scene in which they have a heated debate or anything like that. Just casual conversation, for old time's sake.

[–] winslow (1318) 5 years ago

That scene was right after the time they had to make a battery to start the RV and they almost died in the desert. Also was supposed to be the end of their cooking days. Walt had accepted he would not live long enough to see the money, so Jesse promised he would make sure his family gets it. It's like an alternate end to the show, if the show ended a few years earlier.

[–] brux (14666) 5 years ago

Do you know what season and episode it was ... I'd like to go back the check and refresh my memory as to what was going on.

[–] winslow (1318) 5 years ago

The episode was called Four Days Out, season 2 episode 9

[–] brux (14666) 5 years ago

Thanks Winslow.

[–] brux (14666) 5 years ago

I thought that to when I saw the scene ... but remember
that Jessie is looking back on the good times in a good
light ... that was the reason for that scene. It is not a flashback,
it was a memory, clouded by the present - doesn't that make
more sense?

[–] BeenSavage (561) 5 years ago

Yeah it actually does. I guess we could say the same with the scene with Jane. Now that I think of it, you could also say this with the first scene with Mike. Nice take.

[–] brux (14666) 5 years ago

After all the night before he was hating Walt so much that he was ready to kill him - or just hated him so much that he refused to put him out of his misery - even worse. Jessie then has time to realize that Walt came back to try to put things right and he died doing it. In his own way at times Walt liked Jessie, but he was like a wayward kid rejecting all discipline and without direction or taking anything seriously. Jessie grew up in this episode ... a hard fucking childhood, but that is why this was a valid epilogue to Breaking Bad to me ... it showed at least a bit of hope and light at the end of all that bleak and hate and murder and death.

[–] BeenSavage (561) 5 years ago

In his own way at times Walt liked Jessie

I'm just not sure I can agree with this. Every time he stuck his neck out for Jesse it was in Walt's best interest. The one example off the top my head was when he had Gus fire Gale. This was only to ensure Jesse wouldn't strike out on his how selling meth, eventually get caught, and selling out Walt. I think the two times he did something for Jesse out of the kindness of his own heart was in the finale and getting revenge on Tuco for beating Jesse to a pulp while throwing an extra $15K for his, "pain and suffering". Even then though I think that was Walt's moral compass.

[–] brux (14666) 5 years ago

Walt shamelessly manipulated and used Jessie, that's true, but still he went back for Jessie ... unless I am not remembering the finale as well as I think. Also, it is damn hard to maintain patience and try to care for or help someone who constantly screws up and is so stupid.

[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 5 years ago

Walt was Jesse's guardian angel, he saved that pathetic junkie's ass multiple times when he didn't have to.

In return all Jesse did was screw things up and rat on him.

[–] brux (14666) 5 years ago

That's true too. Still a lot of Jessies troubles were due to Walt. Jessie was a a weird character. On the one hand he was so stupid, on the other he seemed to have ingrained morals. I was struck by how close and loyal he and his loser friends were. I wonder if that is consistent ... most junkies lie, cheat, abuse or attack everyone - even their friends and family.

[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 5 years ago

That's complete BS, Jesse didn't have to cook meth, in fact I remember at least 2 occasions when Walt didn't want to be in the business anymore and Jesse was begging him to come back. Jesse should accept responsibility for his actions.

[–] brux (14666) 5 years ago

>> That's complete BS

What are you 12?

I have no patience for assholes who have to be rude in a discussion and I don't put up with it. If you cannot hold a civil tongue in your head you're - IGNORED.

[–] BeenSavage (561) 5 years ago

The only time he necessarily didn't have to was when he came back to the neo-nazi compound in the finale. All the other times he actually, "came to the rescue" was the fear of consequence in losing his own life.

[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 5 years ago

Wrong, he saved Jesse from those two drug dealers which is the reason why he fell out of favor with Gus. Walt was in danger the entirety of Season 4 and it was because of Jesse.

[–] moviefanatic505 (6000) 5 years ago

Yep Walt is incapable of doing anything wrong in your eyes. No matter what he did it gets excused. Even the own writer of breaking bad disagrees with your view of Walt.

[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 5 years ago

So what about my last post do you disagree with?

[–] moviefanatic505 (6000) 5 years ago

A lot. Thing is though you are incapable of admitting Walt had any flaws. I mean you called him a hero when even Vince Gilligan disagrees with that notion.

[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 5 years ago

"Wrong, he saved Jesse from those two drug dealers which is the reason why he fell out of favor with Gus. Walt was in danger the entirety of Season 4 and it was because of Jesse."

This is the post you responded to, what in this post do you disagree with? Tell me that and we can have a discussion.

[–] moviefanatic505 (6000) 5 years ago

No point in your eyes Walt is perfect. No amount of logic will convince a brainwashed person.

[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 5 years ago

So I guess you can't tell me what is wrong with what I said. Looks like I was right the whole time. Later. Better luck next time.

[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) 5 years ago

That scene was after they were able to create a battery to jump start the RV, by that point they had made up and settled their difference for the moment. The scene made complete sense, chronologically the next scene that happened after this was Jesse dropping Walt off at the airport telling him "you're family will get all the money"