Line up the excuses by bigots.


If the film is critically successful and financially these are the excuses you will hear.

The critics are paid by Disney to give it a good review. No one is capable of genuinely liking this film without being a paid shill or a sensitive leftist sjw.

The movie making money is a gigantic conspiracy. They are making up the numbers claiming it made tons of money when in reality it bombed.

If it failed financially they will be the first people to then claim box office number are accurate. Get ready for these wave of bigots to come out of the woodwork.

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I don’t give a shit about this movie but I hope it’s a success for the good of movie theaters financially.

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I agree.

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Ha ha no I agree.
How do we know what's going in the mind of a b.

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You seem like you need a tissue.

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That's partly why I can't stand all the meta and boxoffice threads here. People are just appealing to these facts, and twisting them to support their take on a movie instead of, you know, just talking about a movie.

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It's annoying for sure. Why not just hey I don't like the movie? Or hey I disagree with the critics here? Nope in order to validate their view they have to make up stupid conspiracy theories. They also want movies to match their political ideologies. Rather pathetic honestly. I care about if a movie is good that's the bottom line. Can politics be hamfisted? Sure but in the end what matters is if the movie is good or not. You won't find anybody doing that though. Instead it's a pissing contest.

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No, we want movies WITHOUT political ideologies. We want to see movies for entertaining, not to be fed political ideologies, of any kind.

And yeah, when you start hamfisting ideology of course you will get backlashes. From one side or the other. And usually the moves with a focus on ideology end up being bad.

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Tons of stories have political undertones there is no getting around that. So to say you want none of that in movies is rather ignorant. Not everyone wants mindless entertainment. Some people want depth and you can't go deep and never have a political undertone. Even the greatest films of all time have political undertones. Some are just subtle about it.

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Don't be dense, there's a HUGE difference between "political undertone" and "ideological propaganda and indoctrination tool".

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You said no political ideologies. Your words chief. Yes there does exist propoganda but you and your camp are on high alert and flip your lid anytime the ideology goes against yours. To a hammer everything looks like a nail.

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"You said no political ideologies."

Yes, and that's different than undertones. I'm ok with undertones, not ok with political ideologies which ARE propaganda and indoctrination.

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Bull crap. You and people like you still complain even about political undertones. I don't buy your excuse for one second. Also no as an artist you have the right to make whatever you want. Just because you dislike it doesn't mean an artist needs to tip toe around your feelings. If you don't like it don't watch it. I also noticed it's only indoctrination when you disagree with it. Grow up that's not how the world works.

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"Just because you dislike it doesn't mean an artist needs to tip toe around your feelings. If you don't like it don't watch it. "

Just because the artist wanted to make an ideological shit it doesn't mean that I cannot criticize his shitty work. We both are free to do whatever we want :P

"Grow up that's not how the world works." - exactly this, applied to you.


" I also noticed it's only indoctrination when you disagree with it." - and how did you notice that?

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I never said you couldn't criticize it. You think they should stop making them. Not how it works. No one needs to appease you.

I'm not the one saying how things should be made. You are.

Because anytime a movie has an undertone you have an issue with it. You are constantly on the prey boards and disliked the batman. You are a boot licker.

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"Because anytime a movie has an undertone you have an issue with it."

Are you that dumb to understand? I said undertone is ok.

"You are constantly on the prey boards" - check when I last posted in that board, moron.

"disliked the batman" - so we are not allowed to dislike a not so good movie because you say so??? REALLY??? WTF???

"You are a boot licker." - you have no idea what that means, right??? Bootliker is the one that approves anything the idiots make, like you do.

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No you dislike it even if it has an undertone.

Where did I say you weren't allowed to dislike something? I just know the reasons why you dislike something. Your reasons usually boil down to wah this movie does not have validate my political stance wah!

Nope there are plenty of movies I dislike. I just dislike them for how they are crafted as opposed to getting all upset about the undertones or an ideology of a film. You have trash taste in cinema. You aren't worth listening to. I'm glad people like you don't get your way. The batman is getting a sequel and I'm happy. Nothing you can do about it either. Deal with it. To a hammer everything looks like a nail.

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"No you dislike it even if it has an undertone."

Can you quote that?

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I do not have to you can see it by your posts. Check out what you post about Prey. Anyways I am getting bored with this conversation. Anything else or we done?

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Prey is not just "undertones" but fucked up ideology.

I disliked the Batman because it's not a good movie and not a good batman movie. And the are parts that were cringe ideology and laughable. Like the jab at "old white males".

Anyway I can see that you make baseless affirmations and when asked to prove them you run away.

SO typical.

Now shuuuu, run away.

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Explain how the ideology in Prey is messed up. Enlighten me.

The Batman is considered a solid film by the majority. It has a great critical score and a great audience score. It also made good money in the box office. You are in the minority in thinking it is not a good film. I loved the jab at old white males it made me like the film even more. That was one of my favorite scenes. Also wrong it is arguably the best Batman movie.

Lets see if you back up your claims. Or if you continue with that dumb elitist entitled attitude. You have the floor lets hear your reasons.




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"Explain how the ideology in Prey is messed up. Enlighten me."

You said you read my posts on Prey? There you have it.

"I loved the jab at old white males it made me like the film even more. That was one of my favorite scenes." - of course, at least you like to lick those boots. I hope it pays well.

"Also wrong it is arguably the best Batman movie." really, are you that hypocritical??

After you brought the ratings in (for a personal judgement) you just trash them in the next phrase/post?

Here: https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/guide/all-batman-movies-ranked/

NOT the best Batman by far.

And it's even hardly a Batman movie, it's more of a noire detective story with Batman as the detective,

AT least we know that you like these trash movies only because they are woke. As you just admitted.

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I read over some of your posts not all. So since you refuse to backup why the ideology is messed up I will count that as a concession.

Nope I just love when incels like you get enraged.

Where did I trash the ratings? I never did. I showed how you thinking it is a bad film is not shared by the majority. Also thanks for that list it is ranked the fourth best Batman film on that list. Putting it above any of the Burton films. People to this day will argue Burton's films being better than Nolan's. Therefore I am free to argue the Batman film being in that same breath. So yeah it is in that breath lol!

What is Batman? Oh yeah that is right he is a detective. He is often called the world's greatest detective. This is like complaining that Dick Tracy solves riddles as a detective. I can't believe you were ignorant enough to post that.

Trash movies according to who? You? It is considered better than the Burton films which you seem to think are good. You lost this round now go skulk off in a corner.




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It's redundant to repeat myself, go search my posts.

It's not concession, it's lazynes.

Are you that stupid to realize how you trashed the ratings when you claimed that The Batman is the best batman ever? Well, according to the ratings it is not.
So make up your mind, are ratings right or not?

"It is considered better than the Burton films which you seem to think are good. "

WHERE did I say ANYTING about the Burton Batmans??? Are you again making up things that I said when I actually didn't say??

You sure like a bad strawman ...

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No that counts as a concession. You made no logical point in your posts on Prey. You have garbage taste in cinema.

I said some lots of people key word lots of people consider it to be the best Batman movie. That does not mean I am saying it is rated the highest. Some people consider Burton's films to be the best Batman films. Overall the point I was making is you calling it garbage is not an opinion shared by the majority. You are in the minority in thinking that. I trust critics and the majority over a an entitled bigot like you. Run along now let the adults discuss films.

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Not a concession. And I'm not the only one that considers Prey a woke mess.

I don't give a fuck about what idiots, critics or the majority thinks.

The majority used to think that dancing brings rain, that the earth is flat, etc. The majority supported slavery at some point. There are countries in which the majority thinks it's ok to kill gays.

Bottom line: the majority sucks.

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Yep it's concession. Also so? Other people agreeing with you doesn't make your point logical.

Comical irony alert! You don't care about people's opinions that don't agree with you. Funny how you attempted to appeal to others when talking about Prey lol. Bottom line you are in the minority. The majority of people and critics have more credibility than you.

Talking about films vs history is a dumb post and dismissed. Others don't need your approval to consider a film great.

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And I don't need your approval to consider movies a failure if they are failures, even if you and other idiots consider them "masterpieces".

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By what ways is the batman a failure? Financially nope, critically nope, mass majority nope. Oh yeah only by your subjective opinion. Your subjective opinion is noted and dismissed. I never said you needed my approval. However the Batman is not a failure by any objective measurement, you simply just do not like the film.

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asom by KO

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Agreed, asom crushed him like a bug.

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moviefanatic505 is the stereotypical chess playing pigeon, getting logically destroyed in every thread but still strutting around after shitting up the chessboard, acting like they won. Pretty pathetic really and worthy of only derision.

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Perfect description.

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Lol right. Which is why you refused to answer my question. Keep licking boots brother. Notice how he had no retort to the batman bring a failure? How did he frush me when he made a subjective claim and I made objective ones?

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asom by a wide margin

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Keep deluding yourself and licking those boots.

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A typical nonsense response from you, that pertains in no way whatsoever to me or the discussion at hand...

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You are dismissed. Keep supporting people who have trash taste in cinema.

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Don't take your frustration out on me. I only commented to point out how badly you were schooled by asom in your little back-and-forth.

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How was I schooled? I asked him to prove how the batman was a failure. He couldn't provide an objective reason to back that. Yet I was schooled? Right...

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Oh,please. You mean you don't like movies with left-wing sentiments. Because that seems to be the only movies you complain about when you mention "political ideologies". If it's a right-wing film, you don't have a problem with it---that's what you're saying. You also have a problem with a film if the main leads aren't white----which is the real problem a lot of you trolls have with it---even though you haven't seen it. Oh, well----it's still become a worldwide box office smash hit anyway, so nobody gives a fck what you whiny-a** trolls think about it! Toodle-oo!

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" If it's a right-wing film, you don't have a problem with it" I usually don't watch right-wing movies.

Can you name few "right-wing" movies??? Specially ones that I support!!!

"that's what you're saying" WHERE the fuck did I say that? I said "no political ideologies" - that means ANY political ideologies. Yes, I wouldn't like a movie that promotes extreme "right wing" ideologies either (and I would be SO curious to see what you define as "right wing" - I bet it is very different than what I define as "right wing" but for this case I will go with your variant).

You don't see me posting on ideological "right wing" movies because basically there are NONE. Or if they are they have zero relevance and impact and there's a huge chance I'm not interested in seeing those. Btw, If you say "Top Gun" or "The terminal list" you're a fucking moron.

"You also have a problem with a film if the main leads aren't white" WHERE the fuck did I say that? Can you fucking quote me???

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You are a veiled bigot. People can see through your disguise buddy.

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If I'm a bigot for raising valid concerns you are an idiot. People can see that clearly.

And let me guess: I didn't like The Batman because I'm a bigot and I don't like movies with ... white leads??

ARE YOU THAT FUCKING STUPID???

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None of your points about the batman being bad were valid. You said it was a failure when by every objective measure that's false. It's why you had no retort to that. You knew I proved you wrong.

Concerns are not points. It's just you mad that the film doesn't echo your political beliefs.

Anytime a film doesn't have your political ideology it's a problem. Get off this board.

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No my man, you get off this board with your leftist bullshit and your boot licking.

Show me a movie that "echoes my political beliefs". Is Blade echoing my political beliefs? Is Alien/Aliens echoing my political beliefs? Is Mulan (the original) echoing my political beliefs? Is Pulp Fiction echoing my political beliefs? Is Django Unchained echoing my political beliefs? Is I'm legend echoing my political beliefs? Is Wonder Woman I echoing my political beliefs? Is Lion King (the original) echoing my political beliefs? Is Shrek echoing my political beliefs?

And what exactly would be those political beliefs (common to all the movies I listed)?? Can you spell them out?

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Once you answer how the batman was a failure I will gladly entertain all of that. Give me objective measurements as to how the batman failed. Not your subjective opinion. I'm not moving on until you address that point.

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I gave you plenty.

But of course is a SUBJECTIVE measure. DO you fucking know what art is ??? YES, IT IS 100% subjective. Even what you call "objective" can be viewed in a subjective way, and it is.

So, from all the movies I listed that I enjoy tell me what are my political beliefs. Of course you will deflect and you will say nothing because there is NOTHING in common that can be distilled in a "political belief".

Django Unchained: a movie with a black lead that kills racists, that must be what I believe in, RIGHT? how's that for a political belief???

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Nope you gave me nothing. Only your subjective view. The box office results, critical reception and reception by mass majority have nothing to do with my subjective views. Those are objective facts. I can cite that as a way to prove the movie didn't fail and it has nothing to do with my subjective view. You don't have to agree with the majority but in the end a film can be considered great without your stamp of approval. You lost this round. Run along simpleton.

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It's funny how an idiot like you considers himself smart enough to be judge and executioner.

The simpleton is you bozo.

And you failed to tell me what's my political ideology.

NO wonder there, give how stupid you are.

You lose, again and again. GTFO.

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You failed to tell me how the batman was a failure. Beyond your subjective view tell me how the film was a failure. Once you do that I will tell you your political ideology. I will wait. So you refuse to backup your claim but then call me a bozo for not backing up mine. Comical irony alert!

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Serving humble pie is fun. Enjoy it.

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The bigots? You mean the left? What will they say?

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I'm not interested in Marvel anymore, but I would see a movie if it HAD A GOOD STORY, regardless of saying stuff like "Look, black people! We exist!" in this example.

Unfortunately, it seems good storytelling has gone out of the window in favour of pushing "more than usual" diversity on paying customers. But then again, as one famous YouTube critic has started saying in the last several weeks, "movies must reflect the world we live in today".

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Both Black Panther films have good stories----you would know that had you actually bothered to go and see them. Nobody cares how a diverse a film is as long as it's entertaining as hell----which Wakanda Forever most definitely is. A film being diverse has nothing to do with the quality of the film, so get off that nonsense. Just admit that you're a racist who dosen't want to see any film without a white lead, and move the hell on and stop fckg complaining about films you're never see. This film's already a huge worldwide box office hit. So all your whiny-a** complaints about a movie you haven't even seen mean nothing at all compared to the reality of its popularity. And it told a good story--but you don't care about that---you're just mad that any movies made about people who aren't white and who are the main characters are even being made. Whatever--nobody's making you go see them.

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I saw the first Black Panther years ago. It was OK, aside from that obviously bad CGI fight on the railway line between the hero and villain. I just never liked most Marvel superhero movies, I seem to like DC more.

And I'm not a racist. Don't even dare presume to call me one. I don't have a problem with peoples of the world, just their politicians and religious figures.

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Leftists feel guilty if they dont go out and support this movie. One lady bought an extra ticket for an empty seat and walked out after hour 2

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Oh, wow, ONE person you saw didn't like Wakanda Forever. It still made 330 million worldwide at the box office even without that one person----ha ha ha ha ha ha! Honestly, it amazes me that I see more stupid-a** whiny complaints from right-wing idiots like you about the film and the fact that it exists and dosen't have a white lead, more than I see any actual discussion about the film itself, which I have seen, and it was really good and action-packed. I went out and saw this movie, like most people who saw it, because I liked the first Black Panther film, and this one was almost as equally as good as the first one. How come it never occurs to you right-wing nuts that everybody dosen't see the world in this limited, paranoid "I cant stand anybody who dosen't think exactly like my crazy right-wing a**" view of yours? Everybody does not have to or want to think like your crazy narrow-minded a****. I'm so glad the democrats kicked the repubs' a**** in the midterms. That was a clear statement that people are sick and fckg tired of the fake-haired loudmouth idiot and his equally stupid-a**, brain-dead, maga cult followers. In other words, the repubs cared more about kissing his a** than they did seeing what concerns their constituents had. That's why they lost so damn hard---tough s***.

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You are very child like...I hope your around 13 years old .

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7.4 seems like a pretty average rating to me🤷🏽‍♂️

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