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Finally watched it.....


Why do we humans always find the need to humanize everything? Why can't aliens just be aliens. No we gotta make them human. Can't humans have our own thing and it be good enough without needing to make everything/everyone human.

Between that and making a alien homo is just a huge 2 thumbs down.

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Because fortunately so many (especially filmmakers and, yes, audiences) aren’t wired like those like you. Clearly. Sure your kewl small-minded bigot kind has a big voice in these boards, but that’s the internet. The internet.

Quality? You: what does that matter if I’m gonna be triggered over something I can’t tolerate in general?


Next!

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You call me a "kewl small-minded bigot" and say how i use these boards to be a big voice. Yet you just tried to act like a superior intellectual and internet bully. (Key word "tried"). I know your in pain and just trying to be cool & smart. No harm, no foul.

What was the phrase you used, oh yes, "but that's the internet. The internet"

I like the color blue, favorite food is pizza. My hobbies are bicycling & kayaking. If you don't care for those am i the bigot or are you? Of course idk you well enough to call you a bigot as you don't know me enough to call me one.

My point is, I don't have a issue with homosexuality. But its a human thing. Why we gotta force feed it to the extent that aliens probably are too.

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The same reason aliens have human-like emotions and human-like senses of humor: they need to be relatable to a human audience.

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Look down under persistentviewer's comment below

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Otherwise, the audience can't relate. That's what comes to mind.

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Aliens don't have to be homosexual or have full human emotions to be relatable. The aliens look human. They protect humans. They are soldiers. All human traits that are relatable.

Also, they disobeyed orders. How relatable is that really? Most soldiers in human history obey their superiors/leader. Only in movies & tv shows they always show soldiers defiant to orders & superiors. That's not relatable. Explosions, jumps, fighting, shooting etc. in movies is exaggerated for more excitement, Yet, that's not actually relatable. Thats eye candy.

I'm just going off your statement of making it relatable.

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Why draw the line at looking human or protecting humans? Why are you specifically mad that alien beings may be attracted to the same sex? That was just one of many attributes the filmmakers gave the characters to make them relatable. Did you take issue with the other Eternals falling in love with members of the opposite sex, or only the one who had a same-sex partner? If so, why? What's the difference?

When telling a story, it's standard to tell one to which your audience can relate. Go back to the Iliad, or earlier. The gods are depicted as behaving exactly as humans. This is basic story-telling. If the protagonists are too different from the audience, the story is less interesting. That isn't to say it can't be done, but it's much less common, and in a superhero blockbuster film, even one as artsy and cerebral as Eternals, the creators are still looking to please a large audience.

As for soldiers defying orders, that may or may not be rare in real life, but that's another aspect of story-telling: tell the interesting story. If there are 99 stories of soldiers who followed orders, and 1 in which they didn't, that 1 is the story to tell. It's the deviations from the norm that are interesting. For instance, how often does the favorite team win the title? And yet, most sports movies are about the underdog that somehow comes through to win. Is that not relatable to you? Or are you like most of us, who CAN relate to the underdog team, or the soldier being told to do something he knows is wrong, and want to hear a story of the time the little guy made good?

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Actually i had 2 issues. The one you've already mentioned and the disobeying orders cuz they developed human feelings. I'm just sick of the cookie cutter & force feeding of certain subjects.

Be nice if we can go a movie without it. I also didn't care for the 2 love making scene in a superhero movie, but they don't really do it much in superhero movies, so i was ok with it more.

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your kinda getting all over the place to try and prove your point. One second its relatability to make your point, then its story telling.

I made a statement, then you made your statement on relatability. I only pointed out the problem with your statement about relatability. Now your talking about story telling and throwing in a ton of examples not relating to my original post.

I told you what i found uninteresting. You can agree or disagree. But lets only talk about what we like, not what everyone else may or may not like.

I know alot of people will be opposite of me. I like being different and not a cookie cutter. But, this movie wasn't a 10 outta 10, so as soon as you see that, then you'll enjoy what you like & dislike and you'll be ok with people that dislike certain things

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Im just a tough critic. Doesn't make me right or wrong, nor anyone that has opposite views. But to say something needs to be put in for relatability is just off base.

Oh yeah, i understand why they tell stories in movies for a wide audience. But I don't need to like or enjoy it. I have the right to say its not needed all the time. Which is what i did.

I also understand them making stuff relatable, but theres alot of ways to do that without the 2 things I've mentioned. Thats my entire point.

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Other posts cover relatability. Pertaining to physical appearances, it would make filming that much easier since they can just costume them with "alien celestial" looking garb. Having them look like beasts or other things (e.g. the beast from Beauty and the Beast, or Groot from Guardians of the Galaxy) would require more special effects

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I never said anything about having a issue they look human. But to be fair i really didn't explain my beef clearly. Thats my fault, but i thought we all watched the movie.

The biggest driving point of movie was the aliens developing human feelings/emotions. So they go against their orders to only intervene if deviants were around and now to save earth. That was the thing i was referring to. The second thing that bothered me was aliens needed a homosexual relationship. That only bugs me because it seems to be needed to be forcefed down our throats now days.

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I did watch the movie. This wouldn't be the first film (nor the last I'm sure) that has alien ex-pats living on Earth. In those films, they end up "becoming earthlings" in a "when in Rome, do as Romans do" sort of situation. To me, any romantic relationship shouldn't have been necessary. I can go "one bit further" where if hetero-sexual relationships were a thing, but homosexual wouldn't be that farfetched in that case (Ofc., we're dealing with "super robots" who have "golden powers", so I tend stop overanalyzing beyond that when that becomes the premise of a plot)

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I just made a post on 2 things i disliked. Nuttin more than that. so far, people are making a bigger deal on a post of 2 dislikes a person has. Like they like everything in the world without dislikes

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