i like arliss. i am not surprised he buggled that.
thing is, i don't think accents in this area are heavy... in the sense of being thick or lengthy with drawn out pronunciations. in fact most people here speak very directly, with a speedy pace. many southerners speak very fast. when hollyweird tries to 'fake' a southern accent they must be going by gone withthe wind, lol. but... maybe it never dawned onthem that those were non southern actors portraying southerners lol.
i mean, sometimes you do encounter the drawn out LAWWWWWWNG accent (let's call it the Antebellum Savannah Plantation accent) in the south these days. it does happen. but it's the extreme minority, and with no seeming rhyme or reason as to why it exists in one person and not another. it can even vary within the immediate family. also i've noticed that hill people talk more through the nose, ones from central and north alabama and north GA. (liam neeson did this perfectly in Next Of Kin 1989)
again, some people draw out words in that Antebellum Savannah Plantation drawl, but not many. kevin spacey (for all his accolades) is AWFUL at this. but you can tell he THINKS he is getting it right lol. The two times i have seen him, he failed miserably in both: house of cards, and midnight in the garden of good and evil. (imo craig in knives out was way WORSE than spacey, even)
danny mcbride has a spot on accurate southern accent. listen to his performance in Eastbound & Down. he is from macon ga, though that doesn't mean anything because i have seen many hollywood actors from this area who DONT sound like this area. but he preserved the correct sound.
ray mckinnon (football coach in The Blind Side) always portrays a correct accent IMO. though he easily moves into other roles not from the south, too. he is also from this area originally, and has that same nasally sound i referenced earlier. his voice in The Blind Side is a good sample to reference.
also, i think sandra bulloch did a great job with her accent in The Blind Side. If memory serves, because i only saw that once but i recall thinking that at the time.
burt reynolds was raised in the south, and his natural accent in his earlier movies well represents authenticity imo. gator, longest yard, deliverance. Also, listen to him talk in smokey and the bandit. that's dead on. but sadly i have also seen him later butcher the southern accent horribly, by trying to fake the Antebellum Savannah Plantation. it's beyond me why they can't listen to themselves and HEAR how bad they sound.
the football movie Varsity Blues had an excellent dialect coach, whoever it was. that whole cast did a great job with accents. although, we do not really consider texas southern, but the accents are generally the same.
you know, it's funny to me they would ever get it wrong THESE DAYS with youtube available for free to sample unlimited REAL southerners talking about all sorts of topics. what this tells me is that actors, directors, producers are just too lazy to put in the work. and, i will add, that IMO ignorance is no excuse. if they are pros, they should not be messing up on such an easy target as this.
if i think of some more points i will return to add them. :)
Great post, LTUM. I agree that Ray McKinnon's accent in SOA was great. In fact, I have to say Lincoln was my favorite character on the show (yes, even over Jax).
To add to your great list, I always enjoy listening to Tommy Lee Jones. I'll tack on our old friend Robert Duvall too.
was lincoln meant to be southern? i don't recall. I was thinking of his role in the blind side. but i do remember he had that nasaly voice in SOA
There was no background on Lincoln to give the idea he was southern. It's hard not to assume it though with a speaking voice like that.
okay, the voice, true. it's been so many years since i saw it i can't remember which voice he used. but i do remember the blind side being authentic. btw ditto on duvall and tommy lee
what about the andy griffith show. don knotts, aunt bee, andy. do you think those accents were authentic? I do
PSA: 'it is six hours and 24 minutes until 8:00 pm'
It seems that Ray McKinnon was using his true speaking voice in SOA based on interviews with him I've heard. It still has a definite southern quality although somewhat toned down.
His accent in The Blind Side is much more exaggerated than on SOA, but it's still the real deal.
Oh yes, I agree -- The Andy Griffith Show is textbook. What you said earlier in another post about southerners speaking quickly is true and well-represented in The Andy Griffith Show. Think of Barney when he's in one of his high-strung moments.
You also wrote about Hollywood's mistake in drawing out words in the southern accent. If there is a slowness at all in southern speech, it's not in the enunciation of the words. It's more a slowness with the speed of conversation--basically pauses in the back-and-forth between two people. It's an unhurried thing. The Sunday front porch conversations between Andy and Barney are proof of that. All dialect coaches should be required to listen on a 24/7/365 loop so they can better perform their jobs.
It's now 5 hours and 51 minutes until 8:00 pm. lol
very well said. well done.
...marching toward 8