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Our Ruin Johnson boycott was a success.



Let’s hope Disney took notice 😂

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I am glad Rian Johnson is away from Star Wars. His talents are far too good for Star Wars. Knives Out was a terrific film as was Looper and Brick. I myself am a huge Rian Johnson fan, I am glad it did well just to spite those toxic Star Wars fans.

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Brick was a good movie. But Rian Johmson fucked Star Wars in the ass until it was dead.

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I am glad he ruined Star Wars for you. Last Jedi actually is one of my most favorite films of all time. The fact that you toxic fans hate it makes me love it even more. As it stands it's critical reception is off the charts. Check Rottentomatoes as well as Metacritic as evidence of that. Not a coincidence that Looper, Last Jedi, and Knives Out were critically loved. Rian is one of my favorite directors, can not wait to see what he will do next. Oh and before you say Disney paid off the critics to like Last Jedi you need to explain why they forgot to mail off the check for the live action remakes of Dumbo, Aladdin, and Lion King. All of those were critically panned. So we won't be using that excuse.

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Which is why he is one of my favorite directors. Star Wars is a joke. Him destroying it makes me like him even more as a film maker.

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Just looking at some of your other douche comments

“I take pleasure in the fact that their childhood got destroyed”

😝

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Oh and I do. I am glad Disney bought your trash franchise and that it will never go anywhere else.

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''I am glad Disney bought your trash franchise and that it will never go anywhere else.''

Come on, I totally disagree with OP and don't care much about most of the franchise, but the original trilogy is not trash by any sense of the word.

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''Looper was good too but he raped Star Wars so bad he will never be forgiven.
Hate for this guy will only grow more and more in years to come so FU moviefanatic you trolling douche.''

Well, you pretty much illustrated how delusional and toxic you, fanboys, can be.

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Middling success?

As I write this, it’s currently at $126 million worldwide, or triple its budget. And, it’s been out for three weeks. If you use the “budget x2” formula for calculation, this film is already $40-million ahead and hasn’t even been out a month.

Listen... I hate what Johnson did to Star Wars as well, and how he handled the fan backlash was infantile, but you just can’t knock what he did here. Johnson took a style of movie (the classic “whodunnit”) that most thought was a completely dead genre and made a successful, highly profitable flick that most seem to enjoy.

I do agree, however, that Johnson’s niche is the smaller, more intimate style of film and he should concentrate his efforts there. The big budget blockbusters don’t fit his directorial style.

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JOKER HUH....JESUS,YOU PEOPLE.

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RUIN JOHNSON BOYCOTT?...THE JOKER IS A HUGE SUCCESS...YOURE A PARODY OF A PERSON.

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If Rian Johnson can make these small original films that harm no one and be kept away from rianing beloved franchises for long-time fans, then I say let him have at it.

RIANING....NICE,I CAN SEE THAT YOU AND THE OP ARE SO DIFFERENT...YOU GUYS AND YOUR JOKERBATING...ITS STARTING TO GET SICK IN HERE...ALL THIS NERD JIZZ EVERWHERE.

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Joker is based off of an iconic character who has been around for decades. That is at least a good 3rd of your cash intake if not more right there. Second the critical acclaim for Knives Out far surpasses Joker. Knives Out is an original film did it really take a genius to figure out it had no shot at making as much money as Joker?

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Critical acclaim? Most of the user reviews (unpaid) are negative. Just scroll through IMDB. Also my friends said it was stupid. Maybe if your American it helps.

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Prove that the critics were paid. You made a statement now back it up with indisputable facts I will wait. Also wow you just made a statement which I can prove is incorrect.

Knives Out currently holds an 8.1 on imdb.

It holds a 92% on Rottentomatoes in the audience score. Just ehcked the user reviews and most of them are positive.

On Metacritic it holds a 7.3/10 with most of the reviews being positive.

So um explain to me how the users think it is a bad film again? I do not care what your friend said. You are going to watch this with a slanted view simply because you did not like Last Jedi, it is why I will not put credibility in anything you say.

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''You are going to watch this with a slanted view simply because you did not like Last Jedi, it is why I will not put credibility in anything you say. ''

Thank you. This kind of lack of objectivity is so annoying and is a real cancer.

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''he handled the fan backlash was infantile''

Can you give me a link for this? I never read anything about that and I'm curious.

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Knives Out was excellent. I don't get why you would bring a past ''failure'' against him. People need to understand that a filmmaker can make good and bad movies and it doesn't affect their own quality. Jeez, think about Michael Cimino: he has made of absolute masterpiece (The Deer Hunter) and then made such a bad movie (Heaven's Gate) that it basically ruined his career (well, it's not that much about the failure of the movie itself but more about his scumbag and stubborn behaviour during the making of it). Does it anyhow change the fact that The Deer Hunter is an outstanding movie? No. so, please.

Furthermore, in the case of Star Wars, it's not really fair to blame Rian Johnson alone for how it turned out to be, since we know that such huge blockbusters don't let so much creative freedom to filmmakers compared to auteur cinema since the big studios have a LOT of control over how the movie should be made. So, the director alone has not so much influence on how the movie ends up to be.

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Check out the writing credits for The Last Jedi Tara, I only see Ruin Johnson’s name.
This c*nt gave the middle finger to all the fans by writing this turd. Can’t wait for the Ruin Johnson hate to fully escalate after TROS fails.

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''Check out the writing credits for The Last Jedi Tara, I only see Ruin Johnson’s name.''

Cool story bro, now let me give you some information that I learned from two years of movies studies in college:

1- There is a limit of people who could be credited for a script (I think 3 or 4) for many reasons like, for instance, to not have a grocery list in the credit. These restrictions are imposed by the WGA. But okay, it does not apply here since we have one name in the credits. The thing to consider here, is that many, many scripts have many people who do rewritings on them without receiving a credit. This is part of the regulations, it's how it works. However, I concede that it's quite possible that this doesn't apply here. I think the next two points will give you a better insight.

2- Believe it or not, a script is rarely the definitive version of what will be on screen, because the studios still have the last word. This, in my opinion, kinda sucks since I think it narrows creative vision of a scriptwriter and a director. Nevertheless, this is how it works. If the producers are not happy with something and really don't want you to have it, it won't make it into the film like you wanted it. Yes, influent filmmakers like Tarantino or Scorsese have more freedom with that (due to their reputation, experience and how long they have been working), but that certainly isn't the case for Rian Johnson. Without saying that TLJ's script might have been the new Citizen Kane, it just to make you understand that the script isn't the definitive product. I can also talk about all the material that either stays in the editing room or simply isn't filmed at all. Which brings me to my last point, the one that is probably the most relevant in this situation.

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3- Star Wars, just like all the Avengers, Pirates of the Carabeens and all those huge franchises, are BLOCKBUSTERS. There are two major categories of movies : auteur cinema and blockbusters. Auteur cinema is a style that comes mostly from both the scriptwriter and, in the end (even though, once again, I don't think it's fair), even more from the director (assuming that it's not the same person who does both). Hence, it has a more personal approach and the filmmakers get more freedom since the studios finance them to have THEIR vision put on screen. Once again, just because they have a vision doesn't mean that everything will pass, but the idea is here : the director puts the way he sees the picture on the screen.

With blockbusters, we are in a completely different world. The director is more like the tool of the studios rather than the creator. Yes, he does have an impact on how the movie will be crafted, but it is WAY more minimal. The reason is simple since it's all about economics : the studios put much more money into them, so they have much more control on how the movie will be made than the director himself. This is the exact reason why the director is really expendable and that he can simply be fired and replaced without any major difference (remember that it happened with Star Wars). So, if the movies sucks, the director have, of course, a small part of the blame, but mostly, you have to blame the studio. So shitting on the director rather than on Disney is ignorant and totally unfair.

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Then there is this other point that could be made here, but it doesn't apply here since the writer is also the director. However, I will say it anyways : when a scriptwriter gives his script to a filmmaker, he basically renounces it, or like one of my teachers put it so well, ''he gives up on his baby''. The director will follow the script, but will put it on screen the way he sees it and not how the writer saw it. Of course, once again, it's not always the case because there are directors who work closely with script writers to make sure that they are on the same page... but it's not the norm.

Now, after all this being said, I didn't even like TLJ. I didn't hate it, but overall I found it boring and pointless. I hope you understand that I'm not even a fan who defends the movie, simply someone who thinks that your attacks on the director are childish, unfounded and vile. So, take that dick out of your ass.

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Amen to all of this. Now there are rare cases where blockbusters do allow a director tons of creative freedom. This is very rare though. It usually only happens when the director has proven himself to be a huge box office draw. For instance you can tell after Batman Begins they allowed Christopher Nolan lots of creative freedom with The Dark Knight as well as his other blockbuster films.

The reason being is because an a director like Nolan, Cameron or Spielberg has proven they can knock it out of the park and give you a very solid return on your investment. If you notice when a director does have lots of creative freedom it usually makes for better films. Mad Max Fury Road is a blockbuster that allowed George Miller lots of creative freedom and look at how it turned out.

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Yes, excellent addition, thank you. Actually, during the day, I thought back at my post and realized that I should have pointed that out, and Spielberg came to my mind automatically. Just like Cameron and Nolan, their reputations allow them more creative freedom. And as you said it, they proved that they can make huge hits. So yeah, you are absolutely right. But as we both said, these directors are rare and we can count them on the fingers of one hand. Rian Johnson is totally not there, so his fanboy's hostile and immature statement is simply not applicable in his case.

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I think Tara and moviefanatic are the same douche talking to each other

😂 😝

Sad.

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Jimmy, if that is how it wants to spend it's minutes on earth then let it be. For all we know it's all it has.

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Amen brother. Finally someone who gets it.

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I think it’s an insult to you 😂

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The only Johnson movie I saw was Looper. It was Meh.

Star Wars was ruined long before Johnson. The prequels were atrocious and disney msking it normal were the death of Atar Wars. The only reason it was Special was because it was rate. Now. It's just another franchise among the rest.

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“Now. It's just another franchise among the rest.”

It’s now a dead franchise that can never recover, thanks to Ruin Johnson.

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Does anybody over the age of 13 with a fully functioning brain actually give a shit about star wars?

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