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The Romulan Star Empire...


...wasn't just Romulus and Remus, there were hundreds of planets in the Empire, thousands of ships and fleets--EVEN after Praetor Shinzon consolidated the military in Nemesis and lost his life. Picard also gained a new friend in the Empire after the defeat of Shinzon.

At its height in 2379, it was nearly as large as the United Federation of Planets, and had a comparable military.

Why is this show making it seem like the Romulan Star Empire was only Romulus? It's very annoying. Picard was their only hope? I don't think so. The Romulans had fleets of ships and transports and MORE than capable of getting as many Romulans off of Romulus and Remus as much as possible.

Also, the Tal'Shiar was wiped out by the Dominion in the Gamma Quadrant, along with the Cardassian Obsidian Order--sure it could always come back, but it sure as heck was in even more disarray after the death of Shinzon just a few years after the Dominion War ended.

Do the writers of this show not even care about previous Star Trek works? Did they not watch TNG, DS9, or VOY at all?

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I guess so.

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They did have some explanations for this on "Star Trek Online," but like everything else, the guy producing this show is ignoring that.

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Indeed. I just found out about the replacement comic for Star Trek Picard, called: Star Trek Picard: Countdown. This takes place seemingly a year (or maybe a few months) before the supernova that destroys Romulus.

The old comic, that Star Trek Online followed is from 2009 for the JJ Abrams movie, titled Star Trek Countdown. I prefer this one as it explains how Nero and Spock end up in the JJ Abrams Trek universe, while the new Countdown comic does no such thing, but at least it gives us more answers as to what Picard was doing after Star Trek Nemesis than the current series does, so far.

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It's like it was made for people who have never seen a ST show before, yet it advertises itself as part of ST canon.

STD did many similar things - but it had the advantage of not having any of the old ST actors - so, you weren't necessarily expecting a continuation of the canon. Here - it looks bizarre.


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"Do the writers of this show not even care about previous Star Trek works? Did they not watch TNG, DS9, or VOY at all?"
I would guess not.

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They're just cranking out product.

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Didn't something similar happen in Star Trek 6? The Klingon civilization came on the verge of collapse when only 1 moon blew up. I remember it being said it was a key energy production facility or something, but you'd think a large space empire wouldn't put all their eggs in one basket like that. That's okay. That was one of my favorite trek movies.

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I'm sure the entire Tal Shiar wouldn't have been on those ships that went after the Founders. Even if the Romulan government subsequently decided to round up and imprison (or execute) all of the agency's leaders and disband it, spies are the sort of people who have multiple bolt holes and hidden resources set aside for a rainy day, including false identities. Anyone you don't take by surprise at the beginning and arrest will vanish without a trace. Some along with their inner circles of trusted operatives. Remnants of the organization are likely to survive underground - they may become organized criminals to generate revenue, while still keeping one foot in their old line of work.

Imagine if Beijing were utterly destroyed. Say, by a random asteroid strike. The entire Party leadership gone. Jockeying for power in the various provinces could result in China splitting apart into a number of separate countries. When you have an authoritarian system held together by fear and brute force (which the Romulan Empire certainly was) decapitation of the central authority tends to have that effect.

They haven't really gone into the political situation in what used to be the Empire. Those worlds that were outside the death radius of the supernova would still have to take precautions - like installing some kind of global radiation shielding - to protect their populations. Their ships would've been far too busy at home to send them elsewhere. I think all the evacuees from Romulus itself went to that planet Picard visited. But there are Romulans all over the place now. I'm guessing many of them originated on other worlds of the former Empire. The Federation must at least have agreements with some of those newly independent systems for Romulans to be traveling freely.

Wonder what happened to the Remans?

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