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Can't say I liked it but...


I feel like this is a movie that's less about telling the story it tells and more about creating conversation. The story itself and the characters it showcases are ridiculous and extreme. I guess the movie doesn't fit into any one clear box so it's difficult to judge or rank against any peer movie. While I can appreciate what I think it was trying to say through its themes, it was a stretch. I really wanted to like it. It's a not so subtle meeting of "Crash" and "Bonnie and Clyde" but it never captures you like "Crash" does (despite having some significantly impactful dramatic moments). I didn't get the hype. If anybody wants to talk about themes and the director's choices I'm here for it though...

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After seeing this in the Theater I told a black guy at my Poker game I'd seen it. He immediately told me "your white, you can't relate to this movie"

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I do not feel they were being ridiculous at all. I thought it was very well done and quite true to the black experience in America.

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Would you say that Black people are fighting a war with US cops, and would you say that US cops therefore 'deserve to die'?

It's an honest question. I actually mostly liked this film, and admire its honesty, authenticity and integrity, but the idea that the death of a cop is something we can just shrug our shoulders over because, hey, it's 'only a cop', disturbs me. The implication seems to be that were it not for the fear of going to prison/being punished, there would be various people who'd quite happily advocate for the killing of police officers, when surely MURDER/KILLING of any human-being (and I'm not including fetuses here, as a pro-choicer) is morally abhorrent.

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I pegged the film as Thelma and Louise meets Do the Right Thing (which is no bad thing, since those are my favourite films of their respective years). This isn't my favourite film of 2019, but I admire the singular, authentic voice and anger behind the film, as well as the director's technique. Initially, I thought some of the editing may have been clumsy (when characters were speaking on the soundtrack at the same time they had their mouths closed on film, but since this apparent technique was used at various further spots throughout the movie, I figured it was intentional), however, the cinematography was generally outstanding, the soundtrack was fine, and the acting across the board was impressive and authentic, and as much as I generally disliked Queen for most of the film, if anything, her ornery, aggressive, self-regarding attitude made her character more realistic.

Although the white cop was an asshole, I was still surprised at how apathetic Queen and especially the likeable, warm, Christian Slim seemed about his death, and the later deaths of the mechanic's kid they encountered, and the Black cop the latter shot. I thought they might at least have some doubts and qulams about the latter two deaths, if not the cop they shot.

I'm not saying as a white dude that Black people should feel sorry for abusive, racist cops who pull their guns out at unarmed Black individuals, but as someone who is constantly plagued by guilt and pangs of conscience for accidentally killing insects, or being rude to bus drivers who fail to stop/are late, I would have thought that simply as human-beings, and ones who weren't psychopaths, they might have spared at least a single thought for the taking of a life (after all, maybe that cop had a wife and kids).

Am I being naive here? Am I being 'racist' for believing that every life that's taken represents a tragedy, no matter how necessary it may have been to defend oneself/kill the individual in question?

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Are cops regarded as *sooo* terrible among some parts of society, that they're perceived as non-human, in the same way that white supremacists regard Black people?

I'm not a Blue Lives Matter person whatsoever, and it's quite clear to me that many US cops have too much power, which they routinely abuse, but a human-being is still a human-being, no matter what they've done and what they represent, and without believing that Queen and Slim deserved to go to prison for what they had to do, one can still feel bad about the loss of a life (especially if one if a liberal who abhors any form of capital punishment; and it seemed weird that Queen was so upset about a guilty client being executed, and fwiw, I agree that NO-ONE, innocent or guilty should be executed, but NOT feel *anything* about a cop, even a bad cop, being killed).

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