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Why were all the Germans assholes?*spoilers*


So they saved the pilot's life and then he stabbed him? Seemed like a dick move.
Then the kid gave him away when he could have just waited 30 seconds instead, and saved his own life.

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The Nazis were very evil - they tortured, raped and killed many people including civilians, they were the first to use poison gas, they bombed undefended towns without warning, they sunk civilian ships with their submarines, etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_war_crimes#World_War_I

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Not quite Nazis

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The Nazis were very evil

And they had time travel machines, so they could travel back in time to WW1.

By the way, everybody had war crimes, the British too. Though usually the ones that win the war, they write history. In WW2, for example, everybody remembers the Holocaust, almost nobody knows about the hundreds of thousands of war prisoners murdered by the allies (and I'm talking about normal German soldiers, massacred by thousands after the war, both in Eastern and Western front).

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Well they started it!

(Actually, they started it twice. Twice. They started TWO world wars...)

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(1) That's not true. World War 1 started with a Serbian military mobilization towards Austria, then Austria declared war, then Russia joined, and then Germany.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I#July_Crisis

Germany was the 4th country to join WW1.

(2) Even, EVEN it that was true, you'd be justifying the massacre of hundreds of thousands of prisoners because "well they started the war!"

Germany had a quarrel with Jews too, since German Jew community, that was supposed to be loyal to Germany, supported Britain during WW1 (Britain was the key to obtain the land of Israel). Now imagine back in the day somebody claims about the Holocaust and the nazi answers "well they started it betraying our country!".

Be careful with your arguments, because arguments are like swords: they can cut both ways.

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"almost nobody knows about the hundreds of thousands of war prisoners murdered by the allies"

Nothing of the sort ever occurred. Absolute uneducated moronic BS. Stop reading lunatic fringe crap and try reading serious history.

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You're an idiot.

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> Nazis

Jesus Christ make it rain some brain please...
Oh God how STUPID people are these days besides living in the age of information is beyond ironic.

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Germans, Nazis = same thing!

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Well, thank you for supporting what I said so eloquently. No further questions, case closed.

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Memieto, he’s trying to tell you there were no Nazis in WWI.

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Memieto, he’s trying to tell you there were no Nazis in WWI.

There were many Nazis in WWI, including Hitler who was a soldier at that time. He was a message-runner just like the main characters in this movie, it would have been cool if they had bumped into him...

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The National Socialist German Workers' Party did not exist until 1933.

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Are you seriously that stupid, Memeito?

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For all the pilot knew he was being saved for interrogation and then shot. In his mind it may have been his duty to escape.

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They were at war. I guess the German thought he'd do his part for his country killing a couple of Brits, even if they had saved his life.

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That was my only real gripe with the movie. The difference between WW1 and WW2 is that there were no clear villains in WW1 and you can make some pretty interesting stories out of that. For example, what if the plane crashing killed the kid instead (wouldn't have to be an instant death either, he could've slowly died in a similar way but just with different injuries) and then the protagonist had to choose what to do with the german. Maybe the other allies show up and there could be some real tension, some of them wanting to kill him and others not.

I wouldn't call this a flaw though, but it's something that would've made me appreciate the movie even more if the germans had more dimensions to them.

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That makes no effing sense.

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War doesn't make sense on the ground. He saw an enemy on the battlefield, was probably freaking out from the crash, and attacked because of other horrors he saw or heard while on deployment. There was also as language barrier which didn't help.

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I also liked the way it avoided the obvious trope of the opposing soldiers realising they were all just men together, stuck in this hell and then becoming friends with respect for each other as soldiers.

No, first chance he got, he shanked him in the gut. The pilot would have been an officer too, so probably looked on the British lower ranks as scum anyway.

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