Do you all not understand that Obi Wan could not have killed Vader. It would have created a gigantic plot hole in the prior films. He had to let Vader live. Its amazing so many on here just don't get that
shareAgreed. The fight was EPIC….and Obi Wan showing mercy was consistent with his character. It was a fantastic episode.
shareDude was crying his eyes out. He was completely irrational. Neither one of these numbnuts think clearly around each other.
shareDude was crying his eyes out. He was completely irrational. Neither one of these numbnuts think clearly around each other.
It’s not bad writing. It makes total sense for Obi Wan to not kill Vader. He raised him and loves him like a brother. Then seeing him so decrepit when the mask got blown off broke his heart.
Vader literally tells him in this that Anakin isn't his failure, he killed him. It's funny because they were probably patting themselves on the back on this line kind of leaning into the OT and Obi-Wan saying Darth destroyed Anakin.
Only problem is this writing literally gives Obi-Wan a free pass to kill Vader. He's literally just told him he wasn't the same person. Therefore Obi-Wan should have had no problems taking care of business.
The fact that he didn't places a horrible retcon on the OT (if anyone was actually counting this as canon) as, like you said, Obi-Wan and Yoda are seen now to be pretty much trying to trick an unknowing Luke into killing his own father!
Absolutely horrible, appalling writing.
Well we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.
I would have agreed with you re Obi-Wan's conflicting emotions, especially when he sees Anakin however, as per my previous post, I think they got too smart for their own good. Setting up Vader as almost an evil identity who has destroyed Anakin makes Obi-Wan's actions nonsense. They could have just left that out to achieve the effect you like but having it in there is just sloppy.
As for the tricking Luke - only partially in ESB before he finds out himself. In ROTJ, yes they still want him to kill Vader but it's no trick, everyone is knows who he is.
The retcon caused by this show however isn't that per se though - it's tricking him to do it when Obi-Wan could have taken care of Vader himself.
I think they missed a unique opportunity to have Obi-Wan kill Darth, erase the original trilogy, and establish a new timeline like JJ did with the Kelvin universe in Star Trek. Give Disney its own timeline and let them do whatever they want with it and suddenly all the nonsense makes sense.
shareIt would have been interesting if Obi Wan did kill Vader and then the emperor went back in time and changed the events in order for him to survive. It worked in Endgame
shareThat would have given them years of material to play and work with and get the fanbase all riled up. AKA talking about Star Wars AKA invested interest. It's just these sort of chances they're not taking that's the main problem with Disney Star Wars. Trying to be safe and just fill in story is only going to make more continuity problems. You gotta make waves.
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