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Whats with all the gay shit?


Seriously? I thought this was a show about Chucky, but halfway through the pilot it keeps on having to remind you that the kid is gay. Wtf.

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I watched for about 3 minutes and knew this show wasn’t for me. I’m done.

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I haven't watched it yet but the kid being gay was supposed to be a big part of the lead kids story, Don talked about it in a ton of interviews, he had a similar time in school when he was younger being a gay kid and kind of based the lead kid on himself somewhat.

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Ok, but it feels like it's more a show about a kid struggling with his sexuality in High School that a Chucky show.

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As i said i haven't watched it yet, but i imagine the first episode was more focused on that and as the show goes on and as more characters come into the show that wont be focused on as much.

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Joke is on you for expecting any different.

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i saw an ad for this show.. and was like nope

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No surprise lol..

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I have zero problem with the lead character being gay. None whatsoever.

Only thing that bugged me was when Chucky said "there's nothing wrong with that" - it felt off especially considering Chucky isn't exactly what you'd call a PC character

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THAT'S FAIR.

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That's like when Dr. Doom started crying when the Twin Towers fell.

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My take on this: Chucky did it for laughs, and he got them. HOWEVER, I agree completely that Chucky is a product of the 80s and would totally riff on this kid right left and center if we actually had reality injected into this in any place. Instead, this is a product of the current times, not its original time, and it does show. And that, itself, is my biggest problem. Not necessarily that the main character is gay (though I am not and I don't identify with the kid as well because of it (but that is totally a ME problem)) but that Chucky himself reacts to it with indifference when it is known that he makes fun of anyone and is generally a dick!

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If Chucky is trying to gain Jake's trust so he can convince him to commit murder do you think he would make fun of his sexuality and risk pushing him away?

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A good point, but I guess I have to inquire as to why Chucky needs the kid... or anyone...

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Chucky is only effective at killing when no one knows he's alive. Jake killing somebody and all the victims being close to him take the spotlight away from the killer doll. The moment everyone knows that Chucky is the threat he's dispatched rather quickly. A grown man can pick up a toy doll and destroy it no problem.

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Fair enough. I admit I haven't seen every film in the series so I'm no expert!

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well, at least Chucky isn't a tranny . . . . . . . yet

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Well regardless of the agenda I really liked the first episode, I’m willing to see where this goes

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Chucky is so trans, he got a body change into a plastic doll that bleeds.

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This is getting really really old. I've never seen this many gay people in real life. Every Damn tv show.

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Do you imagine gays walk around with a big G tattooed on their forehead so phobes like you can complain about them?

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No but that's exactly the image Hollywood is projecting.

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How so? Hollywood just says gay people are around you at all times but you don't know that they're gay unless they announce it which is pretty close to reality. That you don't go around asking everyone you meet "are you gay" gives the illusion that very few people are actually gay.

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To add to your argument, if we know gay people are around us at all times, why is there such an emphasis in tv and film to remind us? What makes a homosexual's sexual preference that much more significant than someone who's heterosexual to create entire subplots around them? You're honestly telling me you don't see this trend?

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What I am telling you is that you're making a big issue over it purely because you assume very few people are actually gay. In this series the being gay subplot is purely an excuse for why the kid is so bullied. Is that really so big an issue for you, that gay kids tend to get bullied?

The reality is that Hollywood isn't shoving anything on you, you're just upset that you can't live in a world where all relationships are heterosexual. Tons of movies use a heterosexual relationship to drive the plot, heck Wonder Woman (2017) is guilty of this as well. If Diana was a lesbian you'd be complaining like crazy even though the movie would mostly be the same.

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Very few people are gay, less than 5% of men. Do you live in San Francisco? Most rural gays move to the big cities.

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By your statistic 1 / 20 people you meet are gay. In a high school, you're telling me that finding two gay characters is completely impossible?

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It's less than that. Only 1.6% of people are gay, so it's basically 1 and a half people out of every 100 people:
https://archive.md/AtuDc

So yeah, on average, unless you live in New York or San Francisco, you are NOT going to find 28% of gay people walking around you, as it's depicted in Hollywood:
https://www.glaad.org/releases/glaads-where-we-are-tv-2020-2021-report-despite-tumultuous-year-television-lgbtq

They're literally overrepresented by 17 times their demographic figures!

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Where did you get those numbers? I can't find anything concrete because it depends on people admitting they are homosexual. Some years with the cenus it's been up to 5% especially if you include bisexuals.

Canada's (where I live) 2018 census showed that 4% of our population of 15 and up identifies as LGBTQ+ but it's also interesting to note that 1/3 of those were under 25 years old.
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/210615/dq210615a-eng.htm

So, perhaps the 9% that Glaad is reporting as being represented isn't that too far off actual statistics.

Just for interest I checked out American stats through wikipedia, so obviously take that with a grain of salt, but they do have the links to the statistics, and what I find interesting is how the numbers change from year to year. So to me, there are outside circumstances that contribute to what people are willing to admit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_demographics_of_the_United_States

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Where did you get those numbers?


The CDC: https://archive.md/LaRQy

So, perhaps the 9% that Glaad is reporting as being represented isn't that too far off actual statistics.


GLAAD is reporting 28%, which is a far cry from 1.6%.

Just for interest I checked out American stats through wikipedia, so obviously take that with a grain of salt, but they do have the links to the statistics, and what I find interesting is how the numbers change from year to year


Wikipedia is a propagandists cesspit and cannot be trusted, which is why all accredited universities have banned it from being cited for any purpose in dissertations or reports.

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Glaad didn't say that 28% of the population is LGBTQ+. At least not in what you shared.

In the 2020-21 season, bisexual+ characters make up 28 percent of all LGBTQ characters on all three platforms, a two-percentage increase from last year. These numbers still lean toward women, with 65 women and 33 men, and one character who is non-binary.


First line in that same article
Study finds that 9.1% of series regular characters scheduled to appear on broadcast scripted primetime television this season are LGBTQ -- a decrease of one percentage point from last year’s record high percentage of 10.2 percent


I also shared with you stats from the Canadian government, and if you didn't read I said to take wikipedia with a grain of salt. But if you cared to, you could actually check out the sources linked to.

The archive article you linked to was from 2014.

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Glaad didn't say that 28% of the population is LGBTQ+. At least not in what you shared.


No one said they did, and nothing I wrote even inferred such. Where did you even get that from?

GLAAD is talking about media representation, and that's literally what the link I shared is talking about.

First line in that same article


9.1% of regular series characters isn't the totality of LGBT characters in media.

The 9.1% figure doesn't include NON regular series characters, films, or other forms of what they consider to be "representation".

You can read multiple GLAAD reports that indicate they're highly over-represented in various facets of media, as they admitted to in their previous report:
https://www.glaad.org/sri/2020/overview

"Of the 118 films GLAAD counted from the major studios in 2019, 22 (18.6 percent) contained characters identified as LGBTQ. This is a slight improvement of 0.4 percent, an increase of two films from the previous year’s 18.2 percent (20 of 110 films)."

Regardless of if you count 9%, 18%, or the completely ridiculous 23.6% that people assume, it's still a far cry from the actual demographics.

It's funny how Liberals, Lefties, and Progressives completely ignore the orchestrated agitprop and instead use the Motte & Bailey tactic to push the goalpost and equivocate the matter with non-sequiturs.

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GLAAD is reporting 28%, which is a far cry from 1.6%.

That's what you wrote.

Nothing I have said is political. All I've talked about is the numbers. That's all I'm curious about. I shared stats with you. I've stated that recent numbers in my country don't reflect the 1.6% that you mentioned. I've not moved any goal posts. With that, I'm done.

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That's what you wrote.


And what did the link say? Nothing what I posted had anything to do with GLAAD's figures about REAL LIFE demographics. GLAAD's stats are about MEDIA statistics. That's explicitly why in my post I EXPLICITLY WROTE that GLAAD's figures showcase an OVER REPRESENTATION in MEDIA of LGBT compared to REAL LIFE demographics.

That was the whole point of contrasting the data points.

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The link said that the 28% is the percentage of bisexual roles which make up part of the 9.1% of LGBTQ series regulars. That's the only 28% I found. I didn't know why you comparing that to the 1.6% as they have nothing to do with each other.

All I've really tried to say is that recent stats put the percentage closer to 4%. I also commented that I found it interesting how the numbers fluctuate as the only way to really know is who admits it. So call me a leftie with an agenda all you want. I don't care. I'm done.

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Cyguration is an idiot man. Anyone who challenges his view is a raging leftist. You brought up an excellent point how is that test of who is gay accurate? How do you determine that? What about the ones that lie?

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I didn't know why you comparing that to the 1.6% as they have nothing to do with each other.


Sorry, the 28% figure was my mistake, I got confused with the 18% figure and another 20% figure GLAAD was throwing from another link about media representation statistics. The 28% was a typo on my end, but the whole point was that regardless of which figure you go with, the entire group is VASTLY over-represented compared to their real-life demographics.

All I've really tried to say is that recent stats put the percentage closer to 4%.


It doesn't matter. The point was that they're over-represented. People are constantly trying to find ways to justify it, which is precisely why I said in my previous comment, NO ONE on that side of the sides that I named, would ask "Why?". Instead it would turn into equivocation, excuses and other forms of sophistry.

The entire topic is about OVER-REPRESENTATION, not how close to the demographics the over-representation is. No one cares about that, they care that there is over-representation to begin with. And even going by the 2020 standards (since 2021 precludes movies), they're still vastly over-represented by a factor of five even IF we use your 4% margin.

So the question is WHY, even at the top-most of their demographic figures, are they over-represented by FIVE times their means?

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YOU JUST GOT ROASTED...ISN'T SHE GREAT?🙂


2014?...YOU SUCK.

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Honestly I wasn't trying to roast anyone. I was curious as to where the numbers came from because it is so difficult to actually find good statistics on the actual percentage of LGBTQ+ community. I was a little disappointed that they didn't actually read anything that I had said. But on this site it's the norm.

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SOME OF THESE GUYSHAVE HEADS LIKE CINDER BLOCKS...I'M LOOKING AT YOU CY.🙂

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YOU JUST GOT ROASTED...ISN'T SHE GREAT?🙂


No, I didn't actually... read my reply.

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Yep you did. You are an idiot. Stats only tell part of a story not the whole story. How do those stats determine who is gay? What about the ones who don't admit it? Whoops didn't think about that huh?

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LMAO...SURE...GOOD GOING THERE,GUY.🙂

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Funny how the CDC is gospel truth when it suits your narrative.

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👍

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LMAO.😂

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The sexuality stuff is a minor subplot, the only thing that is really going on is that the kid is subject to bullying by a large number of people, including his father and his cousin.

It seems clear to me that chucky is going to transform the kid into a psychotic killer, we even had that whole "this is how killers are born" song going on with the emotional scenes.

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