https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/lucasfilm-reportedly-star-wars-projects-poc-female-main-character/
Oh dear.... lol
PS. Seems to me like Jordan Peele should start working for Disney. He'd fit right in.
That's not a bad thing, besides George Lucas is a father to biracial daughters so it makes sense.
share"That's not a bad thing"
Lucas' daughters are irrelevant to this.
Okay, let's make the next saga all about men who are just brilliant by default while basically every women, while having their selective talents, are in the end dumb shells that need male guidance... and let's see if it is still "not a bad thing."
Let's also make a marketing campaign and let the now male producer wear "The Force is Male" t-shirts and push that narrative in social media as well.
Not so bad eh?
Agreed.
shareAre you trying to be sarcastic? Are you trying to say that men are treated badly? These things are hard to discern in text form . . .I don't know what you are talking about. . .
shareYes and yes.
If you do not know what I am talking about, watch Star Wars 7-9?
And if you cannot SEE what I'm talking about, it might be because you are too far gone...
okay, great having a discussion with you I guess.
shareWhat do you expect me to say when you don't understand anything?
First you miss my obvious sarcasm and then you don't even understand what I'm referring to.
At that point I can just point out the (female) elephant in the room that is the latest trilogy and the BS marketing around it, no? And my too far gone remark... sorry but when you read an article about the forced SJW diversity quota nonsense and think "that's not a bad thing" while also not understanding my rather clear points, I can only assume you are literally too far gone.
You slipped into that shoe yourself, don't blame me.
You couldn’t have explained your position that was confusing to me because you made assumptions that weren’t mentioned in the article and the video?
Jesus Christ, having to explain yourself must be terrible for you, either that or you are too full of yourself to understand that maybe you weren’t being succinct and I must be stupid for not ‘getting’ it.
Did you not notice that all six Star Wars films made by Lucas have a sort of ... Peter-Pan-and-Wendy view of men and women? In both the original trilogy and the prequel trilogy, the major male characters have great adventures and fly spaceships and develop superpowers and whine about their inner conflicts, while the major female characters have all the brains and sense... and are in charge of planetary governments or Rebellion movements.
It's true, in the original films Luke and Han fly the spaceships and shoot the blasters and Use The Force, while Leia and Mon Mothma give the orders.
I think it should be clarified that George Lucas has nothing to do with this - Lucasfilm belongs to Disney - these are Disney's decisions.
shareNo worries. The bad guys will be almost exclusively white males 🤣
Favreau was very tricky. He bypassed the "good guys must be females or diverse" rule using an Hispanic male lead... but having him wearing helmet and full armor the whole time, so the male lead ethnicity is unknown unless you check the actor in iMDB. This way he checked the woke checkbox without actually going woke. Very tricky and very smart. Favreau has more brains that the rest of Disney all together.
But now Disney go back to the usual woke route. Well, good luck with that.
He also sounds a lot like a young Clint Eastwood, so regardless of the race of the actor, the white male hero prevails.
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Yet he still ends up pandering to the woke warrior crowd when he stuffs Gina in a as the badass woman, gives us a female lead of the Mandaolrian's group, has him meet up with a small group of fighter with a female leader, throws in the female Jedi and don't forget has Boba Fett pretty much get his has handed to him by a young girl... The estrogen levels of the show were very high.
shareThat was to be expected. Wokes don't pay much attention to non-successful movies or series. Once you succeed, though, they start to fly in circles above it like vultures. Check Christmas Chronicles 2, for example. The movie was successful, so in this sequel wokes took control and replaced the white kid in the first movie with a quota black one, added a new white kid as evil villain (of course), and gave Santa Claus a Turkish origin (no kidding).
Mandalorian is gonna get woker and woker because of its own success. Season 3 will be unwatchable, the same that all the Star Wars series Disney has announced recently. Enjoy Mando season 1 and (part of) season 2, because that's gonna be it.
"No worries. The bad guys will be almost exclusively white males 🤣"
That would be true to Lucas's vision, the villainous Imperials in the original trilogy were all white males. Or started out as white males, anyway.
Who cares as long as writing is good?
sharePretty much every movie that was made woke on purpose has ended up featuring dismal writing at best.
shareExactly.
Comes with the territory. If you are hellbend on making everything woke, the good writing cannot happen. It's like a natural law. Good writing is free of political agendas, especially such horrible ones.
Exactly, story and character development is sacrificed so they can make political speeches and push agendas. In some cases the characters are saying things that aren't even relevant to the story or the character. It becomes tiresome and boring.
The Good Fight is one great example, the way the 60 plus year old main character sulked over Trump's election win was just stupid and juvenile.
Sure. On the other hand there's plenty of good movies with talented female and PoC leads.
It's a matter of priorities, wouldn't you agree?
I'd like to direct you to Darren's comment just below. Cheers.
shareThere is another factor. When a society becomes overly ideological talentless folks can achieve pretty important positions by simply pushing the right agenda.
That's how it was in the Nazi Germany and in the USSR. Hollywood is just another victim of the same inevitable process.
It won't be good if they are prioritizing "social justice." That's the problem. The focus should be on telling a good story. Certainly you can use a story to tell a message, or highlight and criticize injustices, writers always have. Rod Serling was particularly good at it. But today's push for "woke" characters always seems to fail and fail badly. I think there are two primary reasons for this. The first is that the writers just can't seem to restrain themselves from going all in on the "social justice" and it becomes heavy handed, and advancing the agenda takes over from telling a good story as the focus of the effort. This ends up being preachy and insulting to the audience. The second reason is that the "woke" characters end up being damned Mary Sues, because the writers want to show how they are just better people, so the characters end up lacking in significant character flaws or weaknesses, and being exceptionally talented in an implausibly wide array of skills, and usually also ends up being very admired by other characters in the story. Such characters are boring and stories about them are invariably dreadful.
Lucasfilm should focus on telling good stories about interesting and relatable characters, and casting actors and actresses who are the best fit for their respective parts, regardless of ethnicity. When they prioritize identity politics, it's never a good sign.
One example that I like to reference is an ep of The Twilight Zone, the Jordan Peele reboot version. There is an ep where a black woman has a remote control that can rewind time, she keeps getting pulled over by a cop and so she keeps rewinding hoping for a better outcome BUT she just becomes more and more suspicious in her behaviour even offering to buy him a slice of pie. In the end the cop still pulls her over, this time with her black son and the son gets shot.
It is of course played out like a BLM thing but the real Twilight Zone aspect of it is missed, she brought it on by her actions and by trying to manipulate the outcome. The irony is missed entirely.
There is also an ep of the Charmed reboot where a man and woman are making out passionately at a party. One of the "Charmed One's" taps the woman on the shoulder and says "You know you can say no and stop any time you like, right?" so it becomes a #metoo rant when clearly there is no cause for it.
"Lucasfilm should focus on telling good stories about interesting and relatable characters, and casting actors and actresses who are the best fit for their respective parts, regardless of ethnicity."
I absolutely agree. Good storytelling and relatable characters are what matter most in filmmaking, and OF COURSE good storytelling can be about any kind of person, and a popular and relatable character can be any color, sex, or sexuality. Right?
Well, obviously not to some people on this forum.There are people around here who will scream that white men are being attacked the minute they hear a rumor of someone who isn't white or male getting a major role in a film they're interested in.
There's a few videos in youtube about the problem with Christian movies. I highly recommend them: it's amazing how well those analysis apply to Woke movies too.
In Christian movies, preaching the gospel takes priority over writing a good story, and Christian characters are portrayed as perfect and as victims, while Atheists are portrayed as angry guys filled with hate. Woke movies follow the exact same template. There's differences, though: unlike Christian movies, Woke ones try to have a better cinematography, they're more careful about selling their gospel with a better marketing and production. But the problems with writing and characters are almost identical, the guys in charge seem to be more preachers than filmmakers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50_3J6Go5Ng
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9DVPoohilY
Apt parallel. I think the reason that woke movies have better cinemetagraphy, marketing, acting, etc. is that woke movies can get produced by major studios in the entertainment industry, and have the money to do it. Christian movies aren't hooked into the Hollywood network, and have to make do with far, far less in the way of budget and resources. But more than the budget issues, the fact that Christian films are made outside the mainstream entertainment industry means that the people who work on them are simply not as experienced, as polished, as professional at using film as a storytelling medium as filmmakers who are inside the industry, and thus more prone to make amateurish mistakes that result in a bad movie.
And when you think about that, it's interesting to see the people who are more experienced, polished, and professional making the same sorts of mistakes when they make woke movies, because their ideology is taking over from their professionalism and their creativity as their main driving force.
And when you think about that, it's interesting to see the people who are more experienced, polished, and professional making the same sorts of mistakes when they make woke movies, because their ideology is taking over from their professionalism and their creativity as their main driving force.
I don't think that's totally at odds with my assertion; I think it's just another symptom of it. There are still plenty of professionals with loads of experience at many levels of these productions, but again, they are prioritizing advancing the narrative over good storytelling, so they are the ones hiring these ideologically "correct" writers because they are putting the ideology over the talent and skill.
Films are woke these days because the entertainment industry has become dominated by leftists. Gone are the days when liberal stars like Henry Fonda, Gregory Peck, Kirk Douglas, Burt Lancaster, Gene Kelly, Katherine Hepburn, Lauren Bacall et al. were balanced by conservative stars like John Wayne, Clark Gable, Gary Cooper, James Stewart, James Cagney, Fred Astaire, Ginger Rogers, Loretta Young, et al. -- and studio heads, directors, producers, etc. reflected similar ideological diversity. Today the industry is utterly dominated by left/liberals, and a conservative in Hollywood is a freak. Well-established ones like Clint Eastwood can be open about their political views, but those who haven't made it have to keep their heads down to stay off the unofficial modern-day blacklist.
Now that the entertainment industry is so heavily slanted to the left, woke writers who are hacks get work they shouldn't because of the agenda. And Hollywood is such a leftist echo chamber these days that people there don't hear other viewpoints, and come to believe their views are centrist, as opposed to far left which they actually are.
Well, someone's trolling the old-school fans, and I hope it's Kennedy herself!