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So Much Wrong With This……Where Do I Even Begin?


Most of this didn’t make sense & a great deal of this is just flat out stupid. For starters, Dickie for his part seemed to be a stand up guy. We never see him beat the sh!t out of anybody especially hit any women & he didn’t come across as a psycho, even with a gun he hardly shot anybody unless provoked or he had to defend himself. You have to wonder where Christopher got it from, because HE was a psycho, beating the crap out of his women, killing people with no problem.

Yes I’m aware that Dickie eventually killed Giuseppina, but that was more accidental if anything. The killings he did do were of the accidental sort, purposeful but accidental. His father, Giuseppina, etc. He kinda reminds of Winona Ryder in “Heathers” who accumulated a body count & for the life of her couldn’t understand how & why it happened. Dick was the same way, Dickie didn’t even kill Harold who openly declared war on him, though he had the chance, he let him go, that tells you right there he’s not the same as most of them.

On to the rest, it didn’t make sense that Harold chose to just go out & kill a mob bagman. Yes I understood why he wanted to do his own thing & set up his own racket for him & his community but to get angry & just decide to mix it up with the Italian mob was an insane decision. He was too smart not to know what was going to happen as a result. That part of this didn’t make sense at all.

Johnny Soprano who we learn something about in the series & was inferred to be a real badass was just a blah type of character in this. He hardly did anything, & nothing to anybody. Junior was a punk, how he ever became made is beyond me, he didn’t have the balls to do anything to anybody personally, whether it was to their face or shoot them behind their backs, it’s mystifying how he ever made his “bones”. How? He’s the epitome of “weasel” So he ordered a hit on a made man because this man laughed when Junior tripped & fell on some steps? Then we’re led to believe in all these years no one ever finds out about this? You must be kidding me. Fredo from “The Godfather” was a better gangster & had more of a spine than Junior Soprano could ever be.

They did their best to check off the “checklist” of characters from The Soprano’s universe. Hey! even “Tony Blundetto” was mentioned in this. Only character that they forgot was Richie Aprile. The kid that they had for Anthony was too sensitive to ever believe he’d grow up to be the hulking killer that Tony was. Loved it how when he got into a fight he pushed Carmela to the ground. That must have pleased her family. I’m sure there are many other nitpicks over this but I haven’t thought of them yet, but this wasn’t good by any stretch of the imagination.

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Christopher was a drug addict. That mostly explains his violent tendencies. Dickie was thought of an addict because he had Livia’s medicine when killed, but he wasn’t one.

Dickie did not kill Giuseppina accidentally. It was a crime of passion, but he did intend on killing her.

Junior was always a punk. He probably got made because he ended up outliving many of them, including Dickie. He found ways to make enough of a living to be made.

But he ended up with a small house and not much to show for his gangster life at the end.

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Was Junior that bald man who tripped?

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Yup! He even made the famous varsity comment.

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Dickie was thought of an addict because he had Livia’s medicine when killed, but he wasn’t one.

In the show it was made pretty clear that Dickie was a junkie who was addicted to cocaine, vodka, and “whatever else he was squirting up his arm.”

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That’s what Chris said. But we never saw that in the movie.

In the movie, he died with Livia’s medicine and then rumors spread that he was a junkie.

My interpretation is that Dickie being an addict was a misunderstanding. Chris’s addiction really came from his mother.

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In one scene he's downing a bottle of vodka outdoors before Anthony walks up on him. He looked like he was trying to be sneaky with the booze.

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Kind of a big difference between being found with some pills in your pocket vs being a strung out junkie with marks on your arms, and an alcoholic. It just reeks of a bad retcon.

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He has the same nickname as Lord Mount Batten, and they both died by explosions. Coincidence? I think so.

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lol

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Junior was already made. Was made before the events of this movie. What are you talking about. Junior and Johnny boy ran north Jersey according Tony multiple times throughout the The Sopranos series. The junior in this movie is nothing like the Junior depicted in the series. Just another reason this movie sucks so bad.

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"Christopher was a drug addict. That mostly explains his violent tendencies."

What an absolutely idiotic statement.

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Agree with everything you said. The Sopranos is my all-time favorite show, but this movie was just a fucking trainwreck from start to end.

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Agree re your point about Johnny Boy Soprano. This movie ruined the mystique of Johnny and presented him as a collateral character except for his ridiculously protracted reaction to a black family moving into the neighborhood.

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^this

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I did not understand why they didn't blow Harold away.
But now I do ... sequel

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exactly! ...or at least there better be

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I don’t agree that it’s a bad movie. It’s a good movie, but not a great one and not as good as almost any random episode of The Sopranos.

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agreed

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Its absolutely terrible.

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I still think this opinion is based on an implicit comparison with the show it's based on, and in such a comparison it does indeed come up short.

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A mess.

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It was a mess. Whats with all the black shit in this movie. Keep it real.

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