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Has anybody here seen it and have an honest review?


The trailer for this movie looked cool. It looked like the kind of war movie like Braveheart, 300, etc., that plays fast-and-loose with history, but has coolness and action in abundance.

Zipping around online I see that the critics can't love it enough (100% Rotten T's, 75 on Metacritic) while audiences are scorching it on IMDb.

The film is the latest "woke battlefield film" like Joker and Ghostbustiers which received a lot of hate prior to release; people were galvanized and polarized just walking in to theatres.

Does anybody have an objective take on the movie, who can give me a (preferably spoiler-free) quick review of the good and the bad of this film?

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I've love to see an honest take like that too. I just realized this is Viola Davis, who I think is fantastic. If this is something like Braveheart but with Viola, I am all for it.

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Yeah, Davis is a great actor and the trailer is pretty boss, so I might just take the risk and see the film. I think it's gonna get panned by audiences regardless of actual quality. I first started paying attention to the film when somebody called it the "African 300," and I thought, "Well, geez, I like 300." Ever since then, accusations (assumptions?) that the film won't be historically accurate haven't bothered me; it's not like Miller's comic or Snyder's film cared, and look how that turned out: awesome.

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One drawback compared to '300' is that it's PG-13. I figured it would had been an R since the director's last action movie The Old Guard was an R.

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Hm. That is weird. Still, Zulu would get a tame rating if it was released today, and that's an awesome movie. I'm not too worried about the PG-13.

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Looks retarded

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THAT WAS NOT THE QUESTION.

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To be honest, this wasn't really the measured, unbiased review by somebody who had seen the film that I was hoping to get out of this thread.

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I think most of the people rating it on IMDB have not seen it as it has only been released at a Canadian film festival so far.

Look here. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8093700/externalreviews?ref_=ttrel_ql_op_5

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Yeah, that was roughly the impression I was getting, too - that it was a large number of people just low-rating it despite having not actually seen it yet.

Still, critical consensus often gives bad films a good name - especially on RT where a film that squeaks by with a "pass" from too many critics gives a mediocre, warmed-over-garbage movie a "98% fresh!" rating just because it's a "YES/NO" system. Anyway, I just thought I'd probe a bit and see if anybody had some actual intelligent intel.

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I thought it was ok. Very formulaic and script cud be better. I wanted to luv it but I only like it.

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How's the action scenes? How is Davis' performance? And do you regret buying the movie ticket (I assume you saw it in a theatre?)

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I just watched it today and will give you my honest review. This was great! As expected, Viola Davis is very good and there are strong performances from Thuso Mbedu and Lashana Lynch. The film is entertaining and well directed by
Gina Prince-Bythewood. Cinematography is really nice and the score is effective as well. The Woman King is an enjoyable and satisfying film and would make my current top 10 list of the year. My rating is an 8/10.

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Thanks!

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This film is historically inaccurate and it glorifies slave traders, all this for the sake of "diversity and inclusion".

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Fair enough, but the same could be said of 300. That's nowhere near historically inaccurate, and forget "glossing over" aspects of Spartan culture that were repugnant, they made a big point of "freedom" (when the Spartans kept slaves) and mocking Athenians for being "boy lovers" (when pederasty was hardly unknown on Sparta - historically).

I like my history books to be accurate. Movies...I'd rather they not spread misinformation, but sometimes they're just for fun.

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The movie 300 was just about the Spartans. The woman king is about black female empowerment and will be touted as such. While both are historically inaccurate, only one is about race and skin color.

Africans still continue to enslave and kill each other, even in the modern era.

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Some incredible mental gymnastics there to hate on one film over the other.

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those are the facts....

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You did a good job articulating why the comparison to the historical inaccuracies of 300 was fatally flawed.

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your welcome.

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How does it glorify slave traders? The main charachter has it as her goal to wipe them out, and destroy the slave trade. One major premise is how the slave trade destroys families. If anything, they set it in a realistic way, showing how many African tribes captured others in war and sold them as slaves, or held slaves themselves.

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This board is a troll haven. You won't find an honest review of anything. Maybe except old movies.

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JoeyReview and Allaby give me what seem like measured responses to the film.

But, yes, I know there are a lot of trolls about.

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I appreciate this site for not being overly liberal like Reddit but you unfortunately get the exact opposite. It can get nauseating from board to board.

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Plenty of honest reviews on imdb - you should always click on the 'latest' reviews, rather than 'recommended/popular' to see where the film stands. Most of the initial and 'popular' reviews are paid for.
As for the rotten tomatoes - that site is a joke and it's surreal that anyone takes that site seriously. Consider this - if 100 percent of the reviews give the film a 51% score, the film get a 100 rating, because all reviews are 'positive/above 50%).

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I'm not that big on Rotten Tomatoes either, for exactly that reason. It's a guidemark, but it's not necessarily accurate. There's always the critic/audience divide, too, where critics tend to like high-minded arthouse stuff and audiences are often just as happy watching something CGI go "boom". I appreciate art and entertainment, so I don't trust either score. That's without getting "politics" into it.

As far as IMDB goes, I loved the message boards (which is why I'm here) so I try to avoid heading over there and giving them another view. I know I'm a drop in the bucket, but I just don't want to support the site anymore. I'm not campaigning to take them out or anything, I just want to personally avoid it, if possible.

I've gotten some reasonable reactions with this post.

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Yes and despite the controversy I came into it with an objective lens. Here's my take: it's a lot longer than it needs to be, which really hurt it. There's a few eye-rollers but nothing that made you wanna leave the theater in protest. The PG-13 rating holds this movie back from being a little more graphic but they did a good enough job in getting their point across. Things played out a little too much like a tribal fairy tale to the point this could've passed for a Disney movie. I definitely wouldn't waste 2+ hrs of my time in the theater but maybe give it a watch when it's released on streaming if you have nothing else better to do.

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Thanks. I'm leaning towards doing that: waiting for the "home release".

A lot of action movies are too long these days. I blame Lord of the Rings. Those are fantastic movies with huge runtimes that are justified, but I think they opened the door for movie studios to start greenlighting three hour James Bond movies, and I don't think they usually need to be that long.

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I think I had to go to the bathroom twice in the Return of the King. I think if a movie goes over 2 hours, they should have to have an intermission, like The Sound of Music, so you don't miss stuff.

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Yeah, intermissions are okay by me. I don't mind a long movie as long as it's justified, but when it's stuff like Bond or Superman, I'm often sitting there going, "And then he punches the next guy, right?" LOTR is an epic, Lawrence of Arabia (intermission!) is an epic, but Hollywood has lost the distinction of what's an epic and what isn't.

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Well said.

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That's a very helpful review!

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