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WHERE IS THE ENDING??? - and other problems with this movie


This was a fun movie, it knew what it wanted to be, and it was mildly entertaining. Edge of Tomorrow was waaay better, because it had actual substance. There were many-many problems which could have been addressed with some effort in the scriptwriting deparment, such as

- The research facility was monitored 24/7, Mel Gibson was fully aware that Naomi Watts wanted to activate the spindle - and he just let her do it. You could argue that he wanted a test anyway, but he should have not let her use Ray as a subject, he should have thought about how it's a great risk and how this way he himself has no substantial control over the experiment itself. Proposed fix: Give some agency to Naomi Watts, will ya? Have her orchestrate a classy deception where he leads Mel Gibson to believe something else, but in the end she still implements Ray as a test subject.

- Also a neat piece of stupidity from the main villain to have Naomi Watts murdered. She is the only person on Earth who knows the ins and outs of how the spindle works. Without her there is no chance for the baddies to use it to their own advantage - or at all. Proposed fix: since this event creates a significant ticking clock for Ray, the whole script should be reworked, I cannot propose an easy fix here.

- The "absentee father" cliché is sooo tired and worn out in 2021, that it's unforgivable that they still went with this for this movie. Proposed fix: anything else, really.

- Expert swordsman in 40-50 days, I could buy it with a proposed fix: have the swordmaster lady have a signature move, a trick only she utilizes, and only she can teach. That way, there could be some fun moments where she grows suspicious of Ray as the loops are proceeding further along: "Who taught you that trick? That's something only I can do!" - or something to that effect. For bonus points, utilize that trick to ultimately defeat the sword chick. Oh, but this would have required some effort from the writers (rolls eyes). Moving on.

- The movie seriously dragged when Ray was spending time with his son, creating a pacing problem. Proposed fix: forget this fucking absentee father bullsh!t already!

- And the biggest of them all: WHERE IS THE FXXXING ENDING??? I mean at the end we have no conclusion. He steps into the machine, and we don't even get to know if he could stop the end of the world or not. You could argue that he himself made up for his absence in the life of his son, so he should be dead at the end. But to this I say, that's a wrong conclusion for two resasons. A) His son is eleven. That means there is plenty of time before he grows up that Ray wouldn't want to miss, especially after his realization that he wants to be with him. B) Ironically in the last loop he rushed to save Naomi, so he did not spend a second with him! The version of his son that stays alive did not get to know him at all... Jesus, what a mess this really is. In the end we get a lazy cop-out, where the writers can't even commit to any scenario. As I said you could argue that it's obvious Ray is meant to die at the end, but there is still two sub-scenarios of that event: one in which his sacrifice was in vain and the world is still ending sometime around 5-6 in the afternoon, and one in which Naomi and his son at least stay alive. But no, we didn't even know what happened, making the whole ordeal retroactively kinda pointless.

All in all - this could have been sooo much better with a bit more effort in writing. I give it an 5/10 - the visuals and the fights were OK, but the plot is all over the place, and combed together with lazy writing. Also - Naomi Watts is a way better actress than her performance indicates here - it looked like she was sleepwalking through all her scenes. I can't fault her tho, as her character had no agency (as discussed above) and I think she herself found the absentee father's wife role boring. So I can totally understand why her performance was not up to par in this, she deserves more quality material.

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It's much better than a 5/10. I thought it was, overall, a cool and fun action movie.

I agree on the ending, though. This was my main complaint when I watched it. It was as if the writer just got bored at the end and was burned out and scribbled some shit down real quick to close the story out. Or the director didn't have as much money as he really needed to finish the film properly so he just decided to half-ass the ending instead of taking money away from earlier scenes.

I'd still give it a 7/10 and would say it's one of the better action movies I've seen in the last few years.

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It's obviously subjective, but for me Free Guy for example is 7/10, as the story had a much firmer backbone, and the scenario presented there was much more successfully milked than here.

But yeah, I can't argue with your rating - if you found the "fun" parts of this movie really fun, then a 7/10 is fair. I did not (or at least not all of it), hence my 5/10.

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A bit over-analytical. Any film could be dissected like this.

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"Any film could be dissected like this."

Yes, and I often dissect films. I can do it with any film, you are completely right.

But dissection doesn't mean only mentioning negatives / weak points. For example I could dissect Alien (1979) or The Thing (1982) just like that, and these movies would get nothing but praise from me.

But... as you can see, when I dissected this movie, I only mentioned negatives. Wonder why that is?

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When compared to the rest of the films that are coming out these days from Hollywood - this film is in the 9/10 region.
It's only if you compare this to the greats from the previous decades that this film might be lower rated. Aside from that, it seems like you were expecting this to be an action drama, while this film is action comedy. As far as action comedies are concerned, I can't think of one film in the last decade that is even close to this movie in terms of quality/writing (comedic writing, not the drama you seek), it was that good.

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You might be right about the genre, but my complaints were mainly about the plot, character actions and character motivations. The movie is inconsistent, characters take actions that don't make sense. You can't defend this with "it's a comedy". I mean you could, if the movie was an absurd comedy, like Airplane! (1980), where it's apparent that everything is happening for the constant flow of jokes, and basically nothing in the plot should be taken seriously - but wait, the overarching plot still makes sense albeit on an extremely basic level.

Or I could mention Ghostbusters (1984) as well, which is also a comedy, but still has well rounded characters and a competently structured, sensible plot where the good guys and the villains act logically in-universe - all the while they are cracking some jokes.

Oh, I did it, didn't I? I dared to compare this movie to two of the "greats" from the previous decades. Oh, shoot... Now my whole argument collapses...

... nah. No. Ghostbusters is a film, Airplane! is a film, and Boss Level is also a film. They need to be evaluated using the same criteria. And yes, I could have cited more contemporary examples. And yes, I noticed that well done action comedies are rare these days, but none of these factors provide an excuse for BL for not making sense on plot and character motivation level.

So my point stands - you can't just string together a bunch of jokes and call it a movie. For the comedy to make sense in context of the events happening, the setting should be well thought out and well executed. This is where BL failed miserably, and many other comedies did not.


(Besides, BL's comedic writing was not that great, but I know it's subjective - good for you if you found the majority of the jokes and comedic moments funny.)

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