They looked out of place in the Hobbit and it would ruin this if they went woke with diversity.
shareWell, for now, the main character is a black woman. 😂
I'm not kidding. This is the actress playing the main character:
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They also need to have some really tall hobbits and some skinny dwarfs. The body shaming is out of control! I will say they were pretty inclusive in the movie, by having Gimli's wife be a bearded trans. They could have Chaz Bono play her/him/it.
shareI hear all the Orcs will be played by regular White men, with no make-up or special effects.
shareOf all things where diversity would look out of place for whatever reason, this would seem to not be one of them. I don't see why different tribes of men or elves or others can't look like different real world races. Tolkien never said that those types of people didn't exist in Middle Earth, but he just may not have written about them. It is a fantasy land, not a portrayal of actual Earth, so they could make whatever they want I suppose. What would be not good, would be to change the race or sex of someone already established as something other than what they change it too. If all of a sudden, Elrond of the past is an Asian guy, then that would be dumb.
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Thanks for showing your true racist colors. I hope all the elves are Asian just to rile you up. After all, if any ethnicity is perceived as intelligent and elegant, it’s them.
shareTalking about Asians... could you explain the lack of diversity in Mulan?
shareLack of diversity means a movie that does not have actors of an ethnicity that is underrepresented in media. Asians are underrepresented, so in that respect, it’s not a lack of diversity. But i understand what you are saying. But we are coming from the appropriate context of what “lack of diversity” means.
shareI see.
So in a nutshell, "diversity" means having actors of an ethnicity that is underrepresented in media. For an Indian movie, for example, it means that some or all the actors are non-Indian. For a Chinese movie, it means that some or all the actors are non-Chinese. For a Korean movie, it means that some or all the actors are non-Korean, since those are the overrepresented ethnicities in their movie industries.
Since the Oscars is leaning towards "diversity", to the point of excluding movies that are considered non-diverse enough, I guess it'll be impossible to find a Korean movie nominated if all the actors are Korean like, I don't know, Parasite, that winned the Oscar to best picture in 2020. And it'll be impossible to find an Indian movie nominated if all the actors are Indian like, well, The White Tiger, nominated to Best screenplay in 2021. And it'll be impossible to find a Chinese movie nominated if all the actors are Chinese like, let's say, Better Days, nominated to Oscars 2021 too.
It seems that something is wrong with your definition, don't you think?
Nothing wrong with my definition. You’re misunderstanding the interpretation of it. Yes, we are looking at foreign films but let’s remember that these films are playing for a US audience. So despite the films lacking diversity from the country of origin, it still meets the diversity criteria from an American audience perspective. Your argument would make more sense for awards shows in those countries.
shareThere's plenty of physical descriptions in the books. So I think the casting should respect that.
However there were also people of the East and black Haradrim who could have their own cool stories. One of the Nazgul was apparently an Easterling so that should be enough for a few seasons' worth of a story line.
Bro - this takes place thousands of years prior to the events in hobbit -
back then, half of the population was lgbtx, yo. lol
They looked out of place in the Hobbit and it would ruin this if they went woke with diversity.
so no real reasons , just you hate black people so they would "look out of place" , same as if a homeless guy camped on your lawn?
He'd be okay with the homeless guy. As long as he wasn't a black homeless guy.
shareso no real reasons , just you hate black people
i dont, I just want to share my toys with the other children
i dont, I just want to share my toys with the other children
That's one hell of an assumption to make, particularly when anyone familiar with Tolkien's work would notice such a change.
Brightness (1987) is one of the best damn films I've ever watched; as it happens, having been made by a Malian director, and telling a story about legends of the Bambara people, it features an all-black cast. Would it actually benefit from a bunch of blonde-haired, blue-eyed white extras running around in the background, do you think?
Would a samurai film about Sengoku Era Japan, for that matter? A Three Kingdoms Period wuxia film?
Because if they wouldn't, why is it such an apparent moral imperative to change the story Tolkien wrote?
Because it's not about "diversity", it's about replacing whites.
Just check how much "diversity" Disney put in Mulan, or in the Wakanda population in Black Panther.
Tolkien was clearly influenced by Anglo Saxon myth. “Diversity” as well know it today would look out of place.
shareI have no problem with diversity when it's organic & natural to the story, and in such cases I applaud it. For example, any Conan film is inherently diverse, because Conan's Hyborian Age is filled with different races, cultures, and nations. And Conan himself has both fought against & fought side-by-side with diverse characters. Diversity is built into the Hyborian Age. The same with the world of Michael Moorcock's Elric, for that matter. (And will we ever see an Elric film? I'd love that!)
But as you say, Tolkien specifically considered & created middle-Earth to be a mythology for & about England. And an England of the far distant, legendary past, at that. Any filmed adaptation should reflect & honor his original intention, not as a matter of politics, but simply as basic courtesy & respect.
Diversity (aka less white people) is the future, embrace it. Your precious little white only entertainment is over.
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