I get that you're on an obsessive mission to get revenge for your brother and get the job done, but there's no reason to be constantly short with everyone you meet or even talk to. A smile to someone could do wonders in your favour. (Well, we did see her smile on that horse, so nevermind).
But this is over-the-top anger that's not even necessary. The writers really botched this. She's irritating as fuck and makes the show really unenjoyable to watch.
Thing is, modern "strong female characters" are not supposed to be heroes. As in extraordinary people in extraordinary circumstances.
They are fighting the systemic oppression of their gender.
Which is why the authors have absolutely no idea what to do with Galadriel in a heroic fantasy world.
I think a lot of these problems stem from the fact that the writers are trying to write women as if hey were a man.
But the problem is men and women are not the same. We don't perceive them in the same way.
Let's take Arwen, she has tears running down her face when Frodo seems to be dying.
https://youtu.be/1eNkwaWvUzg?t=255
It makes her character more attractive showing this kind of vulnerability, we don't think she is weak because of it. But imagine writing a man in this scene exactly the same way. We would probably think he was being overly emotional. compare this to how Tony Stark reacts when Peter Parker dies
https://youtu.be/JVy-6GChSrA?t=37
Whereas Thor is more emotional, his reaction is more like anger
https://youtu.be/IFNLQ3kgrEk?t=208
Peter Parker on the other hand dies cry when Tony dies, but you can put this down to him being a naive teenager.
The point I am trying to make is that you can't write men and women the same, and expect people to react the same way to them.
But that is not the only problem with Gadriel. The writers are trying to write her like man, but this is not how a man would be written. A man would be allowed to have a love interest, be vulnerable at times, we wouldn't be so self serious.
If you look at Aragorn in LotR, he doesn't smile much. The reasons for this are that he is stoic, but also has the weight of the world on his shoulders, and is on DEFCON 5 all the time. However when he is with Arwen he smiles. He is allowed to be shown NEEDING a woman around. He can be defiant and also courteous and graceful as the situation demands.
Captain Marvel seems to be either a lesbian or asexual. She Hulk has sex with men, but scowls and hates them, she doesn't even seem to respect her cousin. This is why the first Wonder Woman movie stood out by the way, she showed strength, while still retaining typical female characteristics and falling in love with a man,
Great post, very well put. Agree 100%
shareWell put. I feel the same.
Chars natural strengths should be highlighted.
Above all, LotR is about TEAMWORK. It's completely missing here. That is what made it great. Even the tiny Hobbits can be heroes by being themselves and trying their best and working together. No single person was the lone savior always. Here the women are being shown against what we normally see or expect and come off wrong imo.
But this is over-the-top anger that's not even necessary. The writers really botched this. She's irritating as fuck and makes the show really unenjoyable to watch.She's certainly very *one note*. Her ultra-driven-ness and self-certainty reminds me quite a bit of Sarah Connor in Terminator 2. She was irritating too and it takes her until about the middle of the movie before she finally bottoms out and starts to change. Galadriel has been on the same note for four hours of screentime now. It's not clear yet whether she'll ever have to face up to the costs and limitations of her ultra-drivenness and so start to evolve further notes in her character. share
And Sarah Connor was different. She took the responsibility of preparing John Connor to be a military leader and she was alone, nobody would believe her. Her ultra-driven-ness had a motive. She would rather have a simple life, but she couldn't. Sarah Connor could be irritating, true, but you knew she was sacrificing herself to protect others. That was a well written character.
shareThe big difference is that T1, featuring a very different and much more likable Sarah Connor, established why she became insufferably single-minded in T2.
shareYeah plus the ‘horse riding’ scene was so over the top it was ridiculous! Just way too overdone, it wasn’t needed. They could’ve just showed her riding and smiling in real time and it would’ve looked much better. It was too exaggerated.
shareLMAO...THAT SMILE THING IS SOME OLD SCHOOL MISOGYNY.😐
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MiSoGyNy !!!!! Durrrrr.......
No, she just looked fucking stupid, and people noticed it.
NO...ASSERTING THAT A WOMAN WOULD BE "BETTER" IN SOME WAY IF SHE JUST SMILED...THAT IS MISOGYNY 101,CHUCKLES.
shareAre you joking now or being serious? Honestly can't tell.
shareCHILL OUT,BRO...YOU SEEM ANGRY...TRY SMILING...YOU WILL APPEAR MORE SEXUALLY ATTRACTIVE TO ME THAT WAY.
shareAre you female? Are you hot? I need to know these things before I decide if I want to appear sexually attractive to you.
shareBINGO...NOW YOU KNOW WHY TELLING A STRANGE WOMAN TO SMILE IS MISOGYNY.🙂
shareNo, it might be unwanted, but how does that mean it is misogyny?
shareMEN TELL WOMEN TO SMILE SO THEY WILL APPEAR MORE PLEASING.
shareI guess....but how does that mean misogyny?
shareMEN WANT WOMEN TO APPEAR MORE PLEASING FOR PURELY SELFISH/ATTRACTION REASONS.
OK.....but that is not misogyny. Misogyny is the hatred of women. I am not seeing any hatred here. Just selfishness.
sharemi·sog·y·ny
[məˈsäjənē]
NOUN
dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women.
UNLESS THEY ARE ATTRACTIVE AND FRIENDLY.
Is this from the newspeak dictionary?
"Misogyny refers specifically to a hatred of women. The word is formed from the Greek roots misein (“to hate”) and gynē (“woman”). Each of these roots can be found in other English words, both common and obscure."
Nobody likes unfriendly people, be they man or woman. Prejudice against women is sexism, not misogyny.
Maybe you are trying to say it is sexist? Well, maybe, depending on the context.
HATRED OF WOMEN...OK...BUT HATE HAS DEGREES...I HATE BRUSSEL SPROUTS...BUT I REALLY HATE BEING RAPED...OBVIOUSLY MISOGYNISTS STILL LIKE WOMEN TO SOME DEGREE...THEY LIKE THEM EVEN MORE WHEN THEY APPEAR PLEASANT AND CONFORMING...
Nobody likes unfriendly people, be they man or woman.
BUT ONLY MISOGYNISTIC MEN THINK TELLING A WOMAN TO SMILE WILL FIX HER.
No, hatred is extreme. You say "I hate brussels sprouts" colloquially, just like you say "I would die for a beer", you don't literally mean you would be willing to die for a beer, or if you say "I will kill you if you do that again", you don't literally plan to kill anyone.
Genuine misogyny is something serious and rare.
Why on earth would you want to put rape and asking someone to smile in the same category?
I DIDN'T...YOU TALK A LOT...IT DOESN'T ADD UP TO MUCH THOUGH...CIRCLES...MEN TELLING WOMEN TO SMILE IS A MISOGYNISTIC ACT...THIS DEEP DIVE INTO DEFINITIONS AND ORIGINS IS NONSENSE.
RAPE CAN BE FUNNY...
Ohhh, some people don't like you to talk like that. Ohh, some people like to shut you up for saying those things.
You know that. Lots of people. Lots of groups in this country want to tell you how to talk.
Tell you what you can't talk about. Well, sometimes they'll say, well you can talk about something but you can't joke about it.
Say you can't joke about something because it's not funny. Comedians run into that shit all the time.
Like rape. They'll say, "you can't joke about rape. Rape's not funny."
I say, "fuck you, I think it's hilarious. How do you like that?"
I can prove to you that rape is funny. Picture Porky Pig raping Elmer Fudd.
See, hey why do you think they call him "Porky," eh? I know what you're going to say.
"Elmer was asking for it. Elmer was coming on to Porky.
Porky couldn't help himself, he got a hard- on, he got horny, he lost control, he went out of his mind." Alot of men talk like that. A lot of men think that way. They think it's the woman's fault.
They like to blame the rape on the woman. Say, "she had it coming, she was wearing a short skirt."
These guys think women ought to go to prison for being cock teasers. Don't seem fair to me.
Don't seem right, but you can joke about it. I believe you can joke about anything.
It all depends on how you construct the joke. What the exaggeration is. What the exaggeration is.
Because every joke needs one exaggeration. Every joke needs one thing to be way out of proportion.
Give you an example. Did you ever see a news story like this in the paper?
Every now and then you run into a story, says, "some guy broke into a house, stole a lot of things, and while he was in there, he raped an 81 year old woman."
And I'm thinking to myself, "WHY? What the fuck kind of a social life does this guy have?"
I want to say, "why did you do that?" "Well she was coming on to me. We were dancing and I got horney.
Hey, she was asking for it, she had on a tight bathrobe." I'll say, "Jesus Christ, be a little fucking selective next time will you?"
Now, speaking of rape, do you know what I wonder? I wonder is there more rape at the equator or the north pole.
These are the kind of things I think about when I'm sitting home alone and the power goes out.
I wonder is there more rape at the equator or the north pole. I mean per capita, I know the populations are different.
Most people think it's the equator, I think it's the north pole.
People think it's the equator because it's hot down there, they don't wear a lot of clothing, guys can see women's tits, they get horney and there's a lot of fucking going on.
That's exactly why there's less rape at the equator. Because there's a lot of fucking going on.
You can tell there's a lot of fucking at the equator, take a look at the population figures.
Billions of people live near the equator. How many Eskimos do we have?
Thirty? Thirty five? No one's getting laid at the north pole, it's too fucking cold.
Guys say to their wives, "hey tonight honey, huh, tonight, huh?"
"Are you crazy? The wind chill factor is three hundred below."
These guys are deprived. Their horney. Their pent up. Every now and then... p-pmm... they bust out, they got to rape somebody.
Now, the biggest problem an Eskimo rapist has, trying to get wet leather leggings off a woman who is kicking.
Did you ever try to get leather pants off of someone who doesn't want to take them off?
You would lose your hard-on in the process.
Up at the north pole you dick would shrivel up like a stack of dimes.
That's another thing I wonder.
I wonder, does a rapist have a hard-on when he leaves the house in the morning,
Or does he develop it during the day while he's walking around looking for somebody.
These are the kind of thoughts that kept me out of the really good schools.
er.....what?
shareShe is the worst character on the show honestly. Poorly written and acted, Morfydd Clark is miscast.
shareMy guess is she was cast for her politics rather than her acting ability. Although she does have some impressive angry facial tics that she can employ at will.
Probably, seems like nearly all the actors on this show are going on social media and interviews to "defend" it from so called "racists" and "sexists". As if they were activists or something.
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