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Does anyone want to discuss the series, instead of identity politics?


I'm largely enjoying 'The Rings of Power' so far, although I disliked the amount of exposition in the first two episodes. It's the same problem I had with the first few episodes of 'House of the Dragon' and 'The Wheel of Time' - there is way too much time devoted to dumping information on the audience via a voice-over or unnatural-sounding expository dialogue.

For all the criticism that 'Game of Thrones' received after it ended, those first few episodes juggled the exposition successfully and educated the audience on the status quo of Westeros without beating them over the head or being as incomprehensible as 'The Witcher'.

Aside from that, 'The Rings of Power' looks great and it's feels good to return to something so similar to the tone and aesthetic of the Peter Jackson films.

Does anyone else have any thoughts on this series so far (unrelated to identity politics, female action heroes, etc)?

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I think it's boring. After two hours it doesn't have a single compelling character or story line.

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Over four hours now…still the same issue.

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Yep. And they don't have even one actor of any note or stature. There are a handful of capable actors and the rest are either mediocre or just plain bad.

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Very much and the worst actors in the cast are placed on the main roles (ie Galadriel).

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Sure.

Script is horrible, dialogues sound like a parody.
Directing is a mess.
Acting is almost universally bad.


However, there is good music and very expensive looking CGI.

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Some scenes are okay looking. It was nice to see the Trees of Valinor if only for a few seconds.

The orc costumes look good from what I've seen in promo images

The writing and characters suck. Numerous ridiculous situations like Galadriel jumping off the boat and trying to swim back to Middle-Earth, and Elrond and Celebrimbor looking like they only walked a few minutes to reach Moria.

The Dwarves look pretty good.

Many of the Elves look like utter shit. Too short, too old, and outright ugly. Elves were supposed to be beautiful and almost perfect looking beings, the Peter Jackson movies even used CGI to give them sort of an otherworldly appearance. In this they look like human cosplayers.

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Elves are by far and away the worst part of the series so far. They come accross kind of pompous even the the Pete Jackson films though. I guess it's hard to do elves that are like Tolkien elves, but also human and relatable.

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THEY WILL HATE IT AND PRETEND THE HATE IS BASED ON SOMETHING ELSE.

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Exactly.

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Well you pair of geniuses how do you explain the difference between this board and the House of the Dragon board ? HotD has black actors cast in major roles too and yet the discussions on its board are focused on the show because it's interesting. It has compelling characters and a compelling story line where Rings of Power does not.

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NO TOLIKIEN MAKES NERDS AND NECKBEARDS VERY ANGRY.

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They make garbage and pretend everyone who doesn't like it is sexist and racist.

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EVERYONE WHO DOESN'T LIKE IT WILL PRETEND IT IS SEXIST AND RACIST AGAINST THEM.

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What if someone really dislikes it because of the story, dialogue, and direction?

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THEN THEY DISLIKE IT...THE NEXT STEP OF HOPPING ON THE NET AND WRITING UP SOME VILE IN A VERY PASSIVE AGRESSIVE WAY?...NOT SO ACCEPTABLE.

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It seems like that's just everywhere. Trolling, the internet's harry mole.

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What are your thoughts on the series, Kowalski?

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I agree. You are not going to get away from the identity politics, because the showrunners decided to shoehorn in black actors where they don't belong, which is their decision. That was a political decision, not one driven by the desire to tell a good story.

Having said that, I have also enjoyed the first two episodes, and I am so starved for good television right now that I am willing to look past the stupid casting choices and give the show a chance.

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What aspects have you been enjoying so far?

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A good series would not require people begging to discuss it. Discussion of plot and characters occurs naturally with a good series. 90% of discussion for RoP is just about the black elves and dwarves. Compare with the House of the Dragon board and you'll see what I mean. There are only a few posts about the Black Targaryens. That show manages to overcome the silly Woke casting with involving plots and characters.

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A good series would not require people begging to discuss it


There are multiple sub-forums on Moviechat that are overwhelmed by nonsense troll posts about identity politics. It has nothing to do with the quality of a TV series or movie, more so about the current state of discourse on the internet.

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Every show/movie/game/comic is all about identity politics now, you can't escape it. The cost of wokeness.

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I think the visuals are well done. Galadriel casting is not the best but not terrible. She's not got that grace nor ferocity that Cate had. I was truly terrified when she was near the ring and transformed.. she's too arrogant and solo and a brat. Doesn't listen to anyone and seems to be Ms know it all and do it all while guys around her have been neutered in an effort to make her look more ferocious.

I think they should've gone with the quiet power Cate espoused well. You could feel that she's truly terrifying.
Her dialogs are too cringey.

In fact all dialogs are cringey as they're trying to be too epic. With random Confucius say type Chinese wisdoms which are over done and don't fit well. Like the silly where sunlight fears to tread and one more from ep 2.

The chars are overall putting in their best though. Elrond seems to be growing on me. He's no Hugo Weaving but he's good.

The dwarves were alright.

Overall I'm not too sure I like the direction yet but it's got great production quality and visuals.

As a fantasy show it is really nice but atm is failing as LotR. They need to add teamwork to it. That's what was amazing there. No solo heroes. Good banter and jokes and everyone had their strengths without breaking social norms. Even the girl Eowyn was great while being demure and feminine. This made her slaying of Nazgul so epic. Becauee it wasn't forced but felt like it belonged there. She took hits and fell but rose and did her part and then others chipped in. That's reality.

So I hope they stick to what is normal. LotR had that. I hope they make it memorable instead of trying to force it to be and failing

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