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How did Quynh escape from the bottom of the sea?


Theories please... Thanks.

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Sea water erosion chain?

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dammit you beat me, I was gonna say rust!

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Given how long it would have taken the rust to weaken the iron vessel she was in, the sea life and crustations would have probably covered the vessel to the point that she would have basically been entombed in a sediment box. Only thing that would have made much sense would have been if the vessel had been found by explorers who ended up pulling up the vessel and letting her out.

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KONO DIO DA!

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I think you very much underestimate the corrosive power of sea water and high pressure. We're not talking about modern stainless steel here. Medieval metallurgy can only produce iron that is impure. Once it gets thrown in the water it'll only take a few month to become brittle. With enough time, she could probably just kick the thing open.

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I understand corrosion in saltwater, but I also know that the saltwater only acts as a catalyst for the process. The problem is that when you get into deep ocean water you have much lower oxygen content at the bottom of the ocean than when closer to the surface. If there is no oxygen then it wouldn't matter how much salt water you had you wouldn't get rust. If she was dumped deep in the ocean then the lower amount of oxygen at that depth would have resulted in very slow rusting. The barnacles and other salts in the water would also have tended to create a semi-protective coating on the metal. It is really unlikely that it would have rusted enough for her to get out as quickly as she was supposed to have gotten out.

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Bottom feeder fishing ship picked her up and she merc'ed everyone onboard, made it look like an accident. Booker I'd lucky he has an attractive and insane Asian chick to mess around with for 100 yrs.

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Don't know if she's still into choking though...

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My impression was that with Andys' faith being restored, the team started searching for her again and found her within the six month period that the last scene took place. Then, not being totally heartless due to the types of people that they were to have become chosen to be immortal in the first place, possibly asked her to keep the banished guy company until he'd served his 100 year "sentence".

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Sweet thought, but not at all what happened. I won't spoil it, but you can read the comics. . .they're pretty entertaining.

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Sweet suggestion, but I don't spend a lot of time reading comic books. I'll wait for the sequel/series/whatever.

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spoil me daddy!

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I can spoil you if you call me daddy.

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I guess a giant octopus squeezes it's tentacles into the iron vessel and strangles her into pieces before eating her.

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This element of the story really annoyed me. I kept on waiting for them to go and hunt for her.

Then the bad guy say something like "I can get at least one". I figured he was talking about her. All that research deep into the past and he never did any digging on a "witch" thrown into an iron maiden and kept underwater.

If I was in charge of those witch trials. I wouldn't throw her into the sea. I'd keep her somewhere close and guarded. Like a well at some holy site. Church basement etc so they can pass on her guarding throughout the generations. Throw her into the sea and they risk her escaping/being found by fishermen etc.

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But they didn't know about their immortality back than. They only thought they were witches and immune to damage. Death by drowning was a common "trial" back than, but it was usually done by dunking them in a pool of water, than pulling them out. If they survived, they were considered "innocent". Beyond twisted logic.....

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Yeah. I know about the witch trials. I was under the assumption they had done the dunking thing and fire and found neither to be effective so went for imprisonment in an iron maiden.

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Iron Maiden? Excellent! (air guitars)

Execute them! Bogus!

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Not so excellent if you're stuck inside one. Though I believe their use has been exaggerated if not totally fabricated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_maiden

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Haha. Your joke made it into the Honest Trailer for this movie.

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I haven’t read the comics, but I was thinking the drowning/death loop for hundreds of years would make her insane. Maybe she’s dragged up by some fishermen or marine biologists and she becomes the villain in the next movie.

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Certainly one avenue the story could take, which would explain why she'd want to team up with the member who'd been exiled by the remainder of the team led by the person Quynh would be mainly blaming for giving up looking for her, and especially since every story apparently needs a good-guy vs. bad-guy aspect to give all the bad guys someone to root for too.

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Apparently, this movie -- and this plot development -- is based on some graphic novel that I've never heard of, but it's a reveal that I think weakened the movie.

Overall I really enjoyed this movie. Like Highlander, it touches on the theme that immortality for a few can be just as much a curse as a blessing when you have to watch the ones you love age and die. Booker's monologue about having to endure the deaths of his sons, including the hate from his youngest son who envies his father's immortality was probably the most moving scene in the movie for me.

However, the fate of Quynh was nightmare inducing. Imagine having to live at the bottom of the sea for all eternity ... cold, alone, immobile, in near silence... and knowing that it will never end, that you could never even kill yourself to escape it? After five hundred years(?), I thought she would be horribly and truly insane in a way nobody could imagine.

It was a pretty original take on the curse of immortality, but it's undone when we see her suddenly show up looking fine like the resurrected villain from a Bond movie. It took a lot of the punch out of that previous scene where she was dumped overboard in the iron maiden.

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I have a feeling she'll be the new villain in the next movie. She'll want to seek revenge against Andy for not saving her in the ocean.

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