I was around for the metoo movement. That's why I'm aware that when Ansari was accused by a small group I know that far more people piled on that group telling them what Ansari did was not the same thing.
That's why I think people are, by and large, still using rape "properly".
It has become embedded in a small part of our culture to use those words frivolously.
I have been speaking the whole time with you about the words "rape" and "Nazi". NOT the words "racism" and "sexism". Those last two were the ones I was talking about.
I'm not sure if I'm not being clear or you're being (deliberately?) obtuse, but it seems to me that somebody who is worried about the quality of conversation lapsing because of misinterpretation would be more concerned about accuracy in quoting somebody he is in dialogue with.
I'm getting really bored of needing to explain myself over and over and over again and having my statements changed time and again. It's like being interviewed by Cathy Bloody Newman.
My point is not that words are being reapplied - although that happens. Most of my point has been that "incel" has largely only meant one thing, used to apply in one context, and while the current meaning might have been altered, it has altered to describe a new group that we find ourselves (in society) discussing more and more. "Incel" is a convenience; it is a shorthand to prevent ourselves from needing to say, "You know that group of men these days who largely hang out on the internet and blame their problems on women, but who sometimes commit aggressive and sometimes fatal attacks in real life?" Instead, we can just say, "Hey, you know incels?" and save ourselves the time.
It is being used to further communication. So, yeah, that's why I think it's a good thing.
We can still describe people who can't get a date or who aren't having sex but still trying to with other words and other terms.
Sorry if this is coming off as angry, but I'm feeling a little frustrated with the circular motion of the conversation.
You made yourself clear as crystal. This whole time 8ve been pointing out why your argument doesnt hold water.
You know what would have been a better alternative to using the word incel? Misogynist. That accurately and clearly describes the motive behind a guy like elliot Rodger. A guy that hates women goes around killing women. What on earth does his inability to get laid have to do with anything when he shares the same hate toward women that a man like Ted bundy or Jack the ripper did? Its nonsense. And we've been using the word misogynist that way up until cnn decided hijack the word incel. A complete bastardization of an otherwise harmless group of people.
Well, okay, again (and for the last time) I've been telling you that things you've been saying I said were not what I was saying. So, I feel like you've mischaracterised what I've been talking about. Thus, I do not feel like you have shown my arguments failing to hold water since I can't be certain that you even recognise them for what they are.
I feel like we've reached several layers of impasse here and I'm sorry that I couldn't understand your point and that I didn't come across properly to make myself understood. Anybody who decides to read this thread...I guess make up your mind.
I'm done trying. It's just become frustrating so...peace, man.