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on track to once again be number 1 at the weekend BO


https://deadline.com/2019/10/joker-maleficent-2-black-and-blue-countdown-halloween-box-office-weekend-1202769043/

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Don't think it got #1 again...

Highly impressive run though...

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It may be too close to call until we get the Monday actuals, unfortunately.

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Don't think it got #1 again...

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I think it Will end up back on Top when Monday's actuals come out



Highly impressive run though...

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Joker's run is More than Impressive, Its basically Unprecedented...

An R rated Film and cost so little to make, Nearly 1 Billion is just total Insanity.

This was an absolute perfect storm of excellent marketing, Iconic character, Oscar worthy Performance by The Lead actor and a Truly Great movie.

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Ahhh...there you are!

I've been waiting for 24 hours for you to give me the date and location of the comic convention that kept you from posting two Sundays ago.

You said I'm lying about our little exchange two weekends ago and I KNOW you are lying...so this will go a long way to putting this to bed.

Dates and location of this comic convention, please?

*tick tock* * tick tock*

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I've been waiting for 24 hours for you to give me the date and location of the comic convention that kept you from posting two Sundays ago.

You said I'm lying about our little exchange two weekends ago and I KNOW you are lying...so this will go a long way to putting this to bed.

Dates and location of this comic convention, please?

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Queen as I've told you before, You've forfeited the right to ever ask me for proof....

If anyone else thinks I'm lying, and for some reason wants "Proof", feel free to PM and I will provide that "date and Location" and even a few Pictures..

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Why PM?

We're establishing a timeline, bill. LOL. Need to see if it makes sense how you disappeared for the results Sunday morning is all.

No internet access, huh?

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No internet access, huh?

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lol Queen you've seen My posts....I type extremely long posts, I'm not doing that on a phone....



Why PM?

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because as I said, you forfeited the right to ask for "Proof" of anything, You are a KNOWN, Caught LAIR...you disappear from every single board the moment all your predictions fail ....

The fact that you want "Proof" of why I was missing from a board is beyond absurd when YOU are THE KING of doing what you are accusing me of...

If anyone else actual reads this and thinks "Ummmm I think Bill is Lying, I'd like to see Proof and Pictures of where he went"...I'd be more than happy to show them through a PM ...Basically it comes down to Your Opinion just doesnt matter to me....I dont care if YOU THINK I'm Lying, but If someone else looks at the situation and thinks "Hey that looks fishy, I'd like to see pictures" I dont mind providing proof for them so they know I'm not lying


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Ok...so you just admitted that you COULD have posted SOMETHING since you had a phone.

That's a start, at least. Now you couldn't have AT LEAST posted a short "victory post"?

Why is it such a big deal to give me the date and location of the convention? You ALREADY told me you were on a 5 1/2 day trip to a out of town convention...why not tell me just when and where?

Why didn't you say you were going to be gone for the next 5 1/2 days and say "Hey...I'm going to be travelling tomorrow...i'll be back in a few days to rub your nose in my victory"?

You said you couldn't wait to see me lose so why not one post about it in almost two weeks? I mean that's a fair question, right? You posted on that Saturday that you couldn't wait to see me "lose" and when the numbers came in you had zero to say? I don't want to go on for eternity on this but c'mon...its a simple thing to reveal if it jibes with what you've been saying.

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Sometimes it hurts to do the right thing. We can get so caught up with pride that we don't do the right thing even when it is so easy to do.

With all that is good and decent I implore you, bill...release the dates and location of the convention . We both know you are lying about our exchange during that fateful weekend so release the burden of your deception and step forward with the information. It won't hurt you I promise. Actually, in the end, it can only help you.

Maybe it will all make sense when I see what the format of the convention was. Like...maybe that Saturday was dead as a doornail and boring so you were issuing aggressive challenges on your phone but that next Sunday morning the convention came alive and you didn't have the time or energy to write a couple of gloating sentences. I dunno..help me understand, bill.

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I'll bite. But no need for pics. Just PM me the comic convention name.

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Attaboy!

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So...was the convention during the Joker's second weekend?

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No response yet.

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Ok thanks.

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@dmac

Has he responded yet? I'm not going to keep bothering you(I promise)!

If so...does it fall within the timeline of Oct11-13?

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No response. I don't think he's posted since. Later tonight it'll be 3 full days since I asked.

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Thank you, @dmac!

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Ummm...bill?

dmac is still waiting for the convention name.

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Bill?

We have someone that is asking for info of that convention that, I guess, happened during the Joker's second weekend. Why aren't you answering?

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Here's the thing...I'm going to close this out unless there is any new posts from billbrown on this matter.

He has mis-stated what happened on that 2nd weekend as pertains to his aggressive and unwanted "challenge" where he made a total fool of himself. I sincerely hope he is well but if you look at the posting history...EVEN THOUGH THE MODS DELETED OUR POSTS...it's clear what went down when you see what the mods left standing. He has tried to portray me as a "liar" when HE was the liar.

I really appreciate this site and want to be able to post WHAT I WANT and when my integrity is questioned I am going to try to defend myself.

I understand that posting on this site is a PRIVILEGE and not a RIGHT. I understand that my taunting posts were deleted as it was seen as a form of badgering but it needs to be pointed out that he routinely comes at ME and my posts about box office and he set himself up to be an idiot on that second Joker's weekend and I'm simply trying to bring the truth out since our posts were deleted.

If they HAD NOT been deleted we wouldn't even be having this conversation as it was plain as day what he said and I copied those posts as I KNOW what he does. He "challenges" my ruminations and when he is wrong he edits his posts...thats why I try to copy and repost his posts.

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I thought you couldn't make short posts? Isn't that why you said you couldn't post on your phone Oct 13th?

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Your 4 sentence post above begs to differ!


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"If anyone else thinks that I'm lying, and for some reason wants "Proof", feel free to PM and I will provide that "date and Location" and even a few Pictures."

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That's a direct quote from you from 4 months ago. You didn't think anyone was going to take you up on it, did 'ya?

But dmac8 did. Why have you not responded to him? Does he not qualify as an "anyone else"? Are you still trying to figure out how you were posting on Friday(Oct 11) and Sat(Oct 12) and badgering and challenging me and no mention you were going to be gone before going completely silent on Sunday(Oct. 13)?

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Billbrown, the resident man-child how it must truly hurt to see the people you hate the most(DC fans and of course Queen)to have something truly successful that they can enjoy... and don't bother denying it makes you salty inside cause than you're just bullshitting yourself... just man up and admit it.

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Billbrown, the resident man-child how it must truly hurt to see the people you hate the most(DC fans and of course Queen)to have something truly successful that they can enjoy... and don't bother denying it makes you salty inside cause than you're just bullshitting yourself... just man up and admit it.

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Joker was is my 2nd favorite film of 2019...

I'm on record since Joker came out thats its A MONSTER HIT...I havent remotely said 1 negative thing about it....Instead, All I've done is praise the film and its box office

On the other hand I can admit to being "upset" that Queen wasnt "more wrong"....Usually Queen Disastrously MISSES on DC films and unfortunately this time, He made a very Good Prediction that turned out to be very close

I think you may need to look into my history a little better.

If you did, You might find, I actually LOVE DC and dont Wish their films to do bad

Instead, My hatred for Queen overflows into DC films

Because Queen likes to Troll and over praise and Over estimate DC films, I do find myself then pointing out and making fun of The DC films for Not making as much as Queen predicted...But I do that ONLY because I hate Queen and want to make fun of Queens awful predictions, Not because I actual wanted the DC films to fail

I am not a fan of Snyder's DCEU films....and I feel very strongly about them, but again not because of a BIASED, But because how astonishingly disappointing they were, for me, BvS and Justice League were 2 of my 3 most anticipated movies of all time, these werent normal movies, They were once in a lifetime films, and for me They were literally WORST possible films, I do talk very negatively about BvS and JL, but its because of my extreme anger and disappointment.

but other than that, again I think you need to look at my history again...

The Dark Knight is tied with The Avengers and Logan for IMO the #1 greatest CBM of all time.

Joker Is #7 On My top 10 favorite CMM's

Wonder Woman,Man Of Steel, The Dark Knight Rise and Batman Begins are all in My top 15.

I long had the opinion The Dark Knight Trilogy was the best CBM trilogy of all time, until recently when for me personally I have The Captain America Trilogy Now just a shade ahead, but I still fully recognize the Majority consensus has TDK Trilogy as the greatest.

I've seen every DC movie(except Shazam) in Theaters since 2005

I own Complete a set of Justice League from 1 to 251
I have a near complete set of Flash from 108 to 350
complete set of Green Lantern 1 to 245
Very complete Silver Age Runs of Batman, Detective Comics,Superman and Action Comics.

I own every DC movie on Blu Ray or Digital

Bottom Line...I love DC....

I just have a deep hatred for Queen and 2 of Snyders DCEU films...

Not only does Joker's success not bother me, I'm loving and hoping for even greater success, after watching Joker, I found myself astonished by Joaquin Phoenix(I felt his performance in Joker was Possibly one of the best Performances I've ever seen), But it also made want to watch other films with him, I went back a rewatched "Walk The Line" a few weeks ago.....I remember watching this movie a few times when it came out and thought it was good, But Man after watching this time, I was blown away, IMO Joaquin Phoenix absolutely should have won an Oscar for Walk the Line, I'm now FULLY hoping he wins the Oscar for Joker, I not only feel he deserves it for Joker but also feel he deserved one for Walk the Line....I also want Joker to somehow creep over the 1 Billion + Mark...

right now Joker is a run away grand slam, But i feel If these 2 things were to happen If Joaquin Phoenix won an Oscar and Joker got to 1 Billion it would FORCE WB to find a way to either make a sequel to Joker or Get Joaquin Phoenix's Joker in Matt Reeves upcoming Batman Universe.

I completely get and understand why so many people want Joker to be a stand alone and Not make any sequel....But for me, I loved

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the movie so much and am too astonished by Joaquin Phoenix's performance, I would LOVED to see a Sequel, hopefully with Phillips back writing and directing, or would love to see Joaquin Phoenix's Joker in a future Matt Reeves Batman film.


So not only am I not upset by Joker's success, But I actually am really hoping for more success

But I can completely admit to being quite Disappointed by Queen....My goal on this board is to HAUNT Queen...especially with DC films

and While I can still add Joker to Queens list of DC FAILURES since Queen once again Over Projected Joker's box office when he changed his predicted to a 70 Million 2nd and a 400 M total domestic Gross..I do have to give him credit for his 1st prediction which he got so close on...

I was hoping for a MISS like Queen had on Justice League where he predicted a 150 M OW...then changed to 133 M, then changed to 115 M, then changed to 100 M....then disappeared when JL came in under 95 M....Or when Queen guaranteed JL was "red hot" coming off Wonder Woman and would easily beat Thor 3 and top 1 Billion

Or Aquaman when Queen predicted a 133 M OW and Predicted Aquaman to a 400 M Jumanji type run

Or Shazam When Queen Guaranteed a 75 M OW but then changed it to Near 100 M....and Then Guaranteed Shazam would top both AM1 and AM2 and would top 250 M domestically and 625 Million World Wide

The DC films have brought Queen Truly nothing but failure and embarrassment and that has been to my great JOY....but Unfortunately I do have to admit, Joker has been much Kinder to Queen and Yes that does make me sad....While I'm happy Joker is doing great, I cant help but be slightly "Unhappy" its not Bringing failure and embarrassment to Queen like usual

luckily though Queen did changed his prediction from The very Good "57 to 62 M 2nd weekend" to coming back and predicting Joker was heading toward a "70 M 2nd Weekend and 400 M domestic total"

so at least I got that....luckily Queen sabotaged himself

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Once AGAIN...my posts were NOT "PREDICTIONS".

I was posting CHATTER from the comments section of Box Office Theory. The only thing I said was I "tend to agree" with them that the industry projections of 42 million were 15-20 million too low. I THEN posted how they were now saying it could be a 22 million Friday and that would result in a 70 million weekend. Sure, I thought it was very possible but I MADE NO PREDICTION.

YOU, on the other hand, came onto the thread AFTER I made the post about a possible 22million Friday/70 million weekend and said there was "Zero chance" of ANY OF THAT happening and said "AT BEST" it would make 48-49 million and "as long as it didn't get ANYWHERE CLOSE to 57-62 million" that "I win and you lose".

Long story short: the numbers came in Sunday Morning at 55 million and I mercilessly taunted you. YOU DISAPPEARED. You NOW say you were on a "5 1/2 day trip to an out of town comic convention" even though you never mentioned you would be unavailable just THE DAY BEFORE WHEN YOU WERE ISSUING YOUR CHALLENGE.

You talked about how you "COULDNT WAIT" for Sunday's numbers to come in so you could "see me lose".
Now remember...this obnoxious and aggressive challenge" was totally UNILATRAL on your part...and you STILL managed to "lose"...BY YOUR OWN "RULES"!

LOL How funny and pathetic is that?

Your "explanation" two weeks after the fact makes no sense and defies any reasonable explanation. AND you STILL will not divulge just WHEN and WHERE that convention took place.

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Ummm...bill?

It's been 8 long days since @dmac took you up on your offer to give the convention name and he's still waiting for you to honor your commitment.


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Wow...looks like it may have missed it by a hair on the actuals! Maleficent 2 for the win!

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Maleficent 2 beat it by .2m so another prediction worthy of Queen.

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A film with a 50m budget in its 4th week of release only 0.2m away from beating a film with a 200m budget in its 2nd week of release.

Stunning.

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Well said, alienzen.

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Battlefield Earth:
Budget $73,000,000–103,000,000. Worldwide gross $29,700,000 estimated loss $73,300,000

Avengers Endgame:
Budget $356,000,000. Worldwide gross $2,797,800,564

Get it? A movie's production budget has no resemblance to it's box office takings.

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You should share this info with movie studios. They will be able to increase their yearly profits by billions!

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now it it's seventh week, grossing more than Malificent(in it's 5th week) and Terminator:Dark Fate(in its 3rd week), both films with 4 times its budget. Absolutely breathtaking.

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Do you think Avengers Endgame could have been made with a $50m budget?

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Not sure what this silly question has to do with my post, or the incredible performance of Joker at the Box Office.

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Because a movie's budget has nothing to do with its performance at the box office, that's why.

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So why do movie studios spend 200m on a film? Shouldn't they make all films for 10m to maximize their profits?

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So why do movie studios spend 200m on a film?

Because some movies cost 200m to make.
Shouldn't they make all films for 10m to maximize their profits?

And here you are, praising Joker for costing 50m to make.

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Don't know what you are talking about with me "predicting" anything?

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Remember when you posted this on Aladdin?
"It looks like a good chunk of Endgame's profits will have to be swallowed up by the losses on this"

Aladdin takes in just over $1bn at the box office prompting the LA times to print this:

* Of the $200-million gross, Disney earned a profit of about $61 million, after the $25-million cost of producing the movie and the $20-million cost of prints and advertising are subtracted.

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Huh?

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Never mind. Let's have a more blatant example
[link]https://moviechat.org/tt4154664/Captain-Marvel/5c852fdc76b14324d870bb5b/153-million-OW?reply=5c86bd805a45855a01b8c9bb[/link]

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Why the hell do you even respond to it?

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