Okay guys...the actuals are in...
The actual weekend gross was over 96 million...2.5 million OVER yesterday's 93.5 million estimate.
This is really going to leg out, guys.
Overseas jumped up by almost 10 million...global opening weekend is now 247 million.
That's a quarter of a billion, guys, in three days time.
On a 60 million dollar budget.
Just let that sink on for a moment guys...
[–] QueenFanUSA (2268) 2 hours agoYou should be hoping that your own comments don't sink. 🤡🤡🤡
Overseas jumped up by almost 10 million...global opening weekend is now 247 million.
That's a quarter of a billion, guys, in three days time.
On a 60 million dollar budget.
Just let that sink on for a moment guys...
If only you had the wherewithal to cover your favorite topics (Warner, Universal, Boxoffice) with a bit of research and even a bit of biased opinionated commentary. I misspoke, you already provide the biased opinionated commentary that uses a ton of hyperbole with a dab of simplicity. Give a critical viewing to Grace Randolph to see how it is done:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhF5CgHhIB4
Grace reports that the budget for The Joker is $70 Million and not the $60 Million as you have been flaunting and touting. She even backs up some of the budget spend with some detail. Additionally Grace reports that the Marketing and Advertising spend is at around $120 Million. I have also seen a $55-$70 Million production budget early on from Wikipedia.
Screenrant has a $64 Million budget reported. Where did you source your "The Joker" budget from?
Even with a $70 Million production budget The Joker is performing quite well and will probably have a financially great Box Office run. But as usual it is NOT going to be the earthshaking senses staggering Global Smash that you are hawking.
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If true, then it is STILL a low budget for a CBM.
As far as the marketing budget...it doesn't matter how expensive it was. It doesn't count against the theatrical profitability. It's covered by home media sales(per billbrown).
[–] QueenFanUSA (2270) 3 minutes agoWho is disputing that The Joker is NOT a low budget CBM? If you actually listened to that report by Grace Randolph even she is wondering where that rather meager Production Budget went, even though she gave a nod towards CGI and VFX as the probable culprit.
If true, then it is STILL a low budget for a CBM.
What are you so sensitive and defensive about by bringing up "Low Budget" for a CBM? For a CBM that is just about normal humans why would the Production cost NOT be quite low?
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shareSorry...uhhh I got my 60 million number from Scott Mendelson.
I answered what I thought of her comments. Sorry if you don't find them to be adequate. The sets/CGI and recreation of 1981costs money. I think the film has a "big-budget" look regardless of few action sequences.
Hey...I see billbrown is back. Maybe you can see if the "confirmed reports" of a "special deal" Disney got for TLK was something he gleaned from his regular perusing of SEC filings.
[–] QueenFanUSA (2273) 13 minutes agoScott Mendelson's August 28th article has him reporting on the Joker budget as $55 Million. Scott also shared the following about WB's year-end slate:
Sorry...uhhh I got my 60 million number from Scott Mandelson.
Speaking as a film critic, I think Warner Bros.' end-of-year slate looks terrific, and I'm thrilled that one of the major studios is putting out such a slate in this era. But as a box office pundit... god, I'd love to be wrong. That's doubly-true considering that the likes of The LEGO Movie 2 ($191 million worldwide on a $100 million budget) and Godzilla: King of the Monsters ($385 million/$170 million) outright bombed while Shazam! ($363 million/$90 million) and Pokemon: Detective Pikachu merely performed "well" ($431 million/$150 million).As you have been uber-promoting, or should I saw fawning, over the Box office performance of almost ALL of those titles, he projects a not so successful year for WB.
The great irony of Joker is its duel existence is both one of the least commercial movies of the year (it's an R-rated adult drama starring a Film Twitter fav about a guy succumbing to mental illness and life's many indignities) and one of the most commercial movies of the year (it's a prequel origin story for The Joker). It's a perfect example of how comic book superhero movies have essentially swallowed conventional genre cinema whole.
Scott Mendelson writes his articles with an eye and a nod to the investor in the studios as a service he provides. I understand his narrative and his stance. Do you?
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Oh no...I never noticed that he writes for Forbes. How silly of me. Please continue on with your haughty and pretentious act...it's not tiresome at all.
share[–] QueenFanUSA (2280) 3 hours agoI guarantee you I am neither acting nor am I being pretentious. 😂 It wasn't the working for Forbes that I keyed your attention to but his past writings for https://www.fool.com/, The Motley Fool, where he and a second writer would report on both sides of the film industry performance and studios, kind of a "fair and balanced" or "Pro versus Con" duo. Bottom line was that his position had an agenda for his employer and that was to get you to BUY or SELL through them as an Advisor. That was my only full-disclosure. So haughty of me to do that. 🤦♂️ share
Oh no...I never noticed that he writes for Forbes. How silly of me. Please continue on with your haughty and pretentious act...it's not tiresome at all.
I know how Mendelson's name is spelled, thank you. My phone always wants to change it to "Mandelson" for some reason. I edited my post.
share[–] QueenFanUSA (2302) an hour agoYou sure editing your post is a wise thing to do given your history with BillBrown????
I know how Mendelson's name is spelled, thank you. My phone always wants to change it to "Mandelson" for some reason. I edited my post.
I kid, I kid!!!
In other meanderings.... Given what is sure to be Boffo box office results for the Joker will there be a "The Joker Deuce:Die Laughing" the sequel? You've also yet to give an infamous and legendary "Gut" prediction. Methinks you're a bit gun shy after so many poor predicts and are waiting to see which way the financial tide is flowing?
The Joker opened higher than Justice League.
Has a higher Cinema Score than JL.
Has a higher RT score than JL, audience and critics.
Does have a lower IP value than JL. Your concept not mine. 😎
Has little if any real competition.
Has a longer run-time than JL but infinitely more story and a better received story.
Has an oddly high social media value than JL, along with WB "Goodwill".
Has Oscar Buzz.
That would mean the absolute floor has to be JL's performance both domestic and International.
$700 Million.
What say you ol' Boxoffice Savant, sleuth of the financial predictions, imperfect Prognosticator of Pecuniary Performance? Sharing is caring!
Did you make a prediction for The Joker and we all just missed it?
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I wouldn't be surprised if it crosses 300 million domestic but a 'safe" prediction would be around 260 million domestic. Overseas has really been a surprise so hard to predict how far it goes. We may be looking at a worldwide close to 900 million.
share[–] QueenFanUSA (2304) an hour agoThat's an interesting prediction for the Joker. $260 Million domestic and a $640 Million International. JL did ~$428 Million Internationally and just shows you how JL was received so poorly. JL should have been a $2 Billion dollar film easily with all of WB's favorite and best IP's in the mix. Best besides Cyborg. That no doubt hurt JL by having Cyborg instead of Green Lantern or at least The Martian Manhunter.
I wouldn't be surprised if it crosses 300 million domestic but a 'safe" prediction would be around 260 million domestic. Overseas has really been a surprise so hard to predict how far it goes. We may be looking at a worldwide close to 900 million.
Do you think WB will be disappointed if The Joker doesn't hit that amount given the amount of critical praise and apparent audience enthusiasm? Has WB found it's groove and an audience for their films?
On a side note I discovered this little missive from you:
Now...you had a quasi-defender on these boards that goes by "Norrinrad" suggest that the answer may be fpound in Disney's SEC Filings. He implied that maybe THAT is the "confirmed report" for this SPECIFIC TLK "special deal"? Do you peruse SEC Filings? Seriously? LOL I dunno...if I was to bet dollars to donuts I'd say "no". Honestly, you just don't strike me as someone that does that in your spare time.While I don't mind the "shout-out" I am NOT a BillBrown defender or quasi-defender. Neither am I a QueenFanUSA attacker. I'm not even a mediator between you two knife wielding combatants. As I have said once before, "Stay Focused", this is the Joker Board. Your little Disney contract based on "Confirmed Reports" brouhaha has little if anything to do with me.
I am tempted to say, "Keep my name OUT of your mouth!", but I did suggest to you possible "sources" for the content of BillBrown's statement. share