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Where does this one place on your best-to-worst Tarantino list?


1. Pulp Fiction
2. Django Unchained

3. Inglourious Basterds
4. Once Upon a Time... in Hollywood
5. Jackie Brown
6. The Hateful Eight

7. Kill Bill 1 & 2

8. Death Proof
9. Reservoir Dogs

The movies in each group are of about equal quality to me; I just added the numbers in case I was backed against a wall.

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haven't seen it yet, didn't see the joker either

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Then why respond.

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I want too, i'm taking it slow, i just don't want to rush into it

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Bottom of the list together with Jackie Brown.

1.Pulp Fiction
2. Reservoir Dogs
3-7. The rest
8. Jackie Brown
9. Once upon a time in Hollywood

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I'm also going to separate them into groups of equal quality.

1. Reservoir Dogs
2. Pulp Fiction
3. Jackie Brown
Tarantino's earlier work had a much more serious tone, with the humour being darker and more subtle. Great films.

4. Kill Bill 1 & 2
5. The Hateful Eight
6. Django Unchained
Tarantino's genre influences became more pronounced, which unfortunately made his films more cartoon-like and comedic. These films are still great, but I find them to be a very silly as well, especially with the people screaming as buckets of blood fly.

7. Death Proof
8. Inglourious Basterds
9. Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
I honestly do not like these films very much, despite watching the first two several times. They're not all bad: Death Proof does contain one of the best car chase scenes of all time; Inglourious Basterds has one of the greatest opening scenes of all time; and I did enjoy Di Caprio's scenes in Once Upon A Time In Hollywood where he was acting in the TV show. Overall tough, I find these films to be boring, aimless, and tiresome to sit through.

I must admit to an active dislike of Once Upon A Time In Hollywood, which even lacked Tarantino's trademark dialogue. I doubt the film will grow on me, as I gave Death Proof and Inglourious Basterds enough chances but came away with the same impression. I'm not sure if I could muster the energy to sit through the entire thing again.

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His third worst after Death Proof and The Hateful Eight.

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1. Pulp Fiction
2. Reservoir Dogs

3. Kill Bill
4. Inglorious Basterds
6. Django Unchained

5. Death Proof

8. The Hateful 8
7. Once Upon a Time in ... Hollywood

9. Jackie Brown

All good movies.

* The first two are near perfection. Pulp, might be.
* Second group is solid and interesting storytelling - has som truly phenomenal scenes (especially Bastards).
* Third one, just works.
* Forth group seems pretentious and a bit too long for their own good.
* For the last one, the pacing is off. Otherwise, a beautiful flick.

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Pulp Fiction
Reservoir Dogs
Jackie Brown
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Deathproof
Django Unchained
Inglorious Bastards

Kill Bill
The Hateful Eight

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This is definitely the worst for me, not necessarily because it's bad. It's the least entertaining QT movie for me.

The problem is that I'm not American, so the many cultural references that were supposed to be entertaining just doesn't work for me. And that ending scene where he Leonardo's character is invited into the house really confused me. I was like "Wait that's it? That's the whole movie?"

And of course the Bruce Lee's portrayal. I mean if QT wants to show how badass Brad Pitt's character was, he could do it without making BL looked ridiculous like that.

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The Bruce Lee sequence was satirical and one of the best parts of the movie IMHO -- Tarantino's way of showing that Bruce Lee wasn't the baddest dude on earth as they hype placed him, as well as illustrate how kick-axx Booth (Pitt) was.

The ending was Tarantino's revenge on the Manson psychos -- the way it should have turned out on that infamous night.

I found the close heartwarming.

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My mom who is in her 70’s and was married in 1969 watched this the other night on demand and said it was getting late when the Manson group pulled up and were walking up to the house. She almost turned it off to finish it in the morning because she did not want to see the fate of Tate and the rest that she assumed was coming. She decided to watch it and had no idea what was coming in QT’s version. She absolutely loved it and laughed her ass off and watched the ending scene again the next day. Lol.

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It's not really a strong argument to say that it's satirical. Besides the two protagonists and their effect on history, the rest of the movie is faithful to the real story and historical characters. So why only the Bruce Lee part is satirical?

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The film was filled with satire to (1) amuse and (2) make points. Did you bust out laughing during the Bruce Lee sequence? My wife & I did, so did everyone else in the audience (as far as I could tell). It was easily one of the top three sequences in the movie.

Was there a point behind it? Likely that (1) a kick-axx stuntman in old Hollywood, like the fictional Booth, was so tough he could handle himself in a scrap with the likes of Bruce Lee, (2) Lee wasn't as bad in an actual fight with a formidable opponent as he was renowned and (3) Lee was arrogant and needed humbled, similar to the way Manson's nutzoids needed what they got in the film (don't get me wrong here, Lee deserves admiration, generally speaking, while Manson's dirtbags merit loathing).

I appreciate & respect Bruce Lee as much of the next guy -- "Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story" is one of my favorites -- but I had no problem recognizing that particular scene for what it is; and relishing it.

Chill and enjoy the movie as what it is -- an entertaining drama/fantasy/comedy of late 60's Hollywood with the corresponding alternate history. You don't have to agree with every jot & tittle of Tarantino's subtexts to appreciate the movie.

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What other satire besides Bruce Lee is in the movie?

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Sharon Tate's preferred "type" of beau; the allusion to what MAY have happened to Cliff's nagging wife on the boat; the Spaghetti Western bits; Rick's breakdown with the precocious girl actor; Sharon Tate at the theater; Rick's meltdown in his trailer; George Spahn not remembering the stuntman, Cliff; Rick finally pulling off a quality acting scene via ad libbing; the depiction of Manson's dirtbag hippies; the way it should have turned out on that infamous night; the audacious flamethrower sequence; the bits with Brandi, the pit bull.

Satire has a pretty broad meaning -- the use of humor, irony, exaggeration, caricature or ridicule to amuse & make points in the context of politics and other topical issues. Here the context is 60's Hollywood & cinema in general, e.g. the Euro Westerns.

For instance, did famous actors have breakdowns on the set or in privacy in their trailers? Did they ad-lib because they couldn't remember their lines and then ironically be hailed as geniuses? Were hippies lazy, drug-addled Libs in need of a bath (generally speaking)? Did some filmmakers kill their wives and get away with it? Were Spag Westerns dubious imitations of American A Westerns with has-been (or up-and-coming) actors? Were tough stuntmen badder than action actors with exaggerated reps? The answer to all of these is yes; the movie drives home these points while amusing the viewer with caricature, exaggeration and irony. That's satire.

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Pulp Fiction
Inglourious Basterds
Django Unchained
Reservoir Dogs
The Hateful Eight
Kill Bill Vol 1
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Kill Bill Vol 2
Jackie Brown
Death Proof

Not one of his best.

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1 reservoir dogs, masterpiece of ensemble acting
2 pulp fiction, masterpiece of style
3 Jackie brown, masterpiece of Sam Jackson's acting
4 inglorious basterds, masterpiece of propaganda and war violence exploration
5 death proof, fun movie
6 kill bills, good movie
7 hateful eight ( only for the big black Johnson scene)
8 Django unchained, could have been a masterpiece if Tarantino stuck to his original screenplay
9 once upon a time in Hollywood, too long with not enough plot or characters to it

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