They were both born around 1930, Cliff may be a veteran. They sure hated Manson's Family.
I had never seen a hippy by 1969, but they were the butt of jokes on TV at the time. These hippie chicks seemed too clean, but the armpit hair was a nice touch.
I can see the older generation (of their time) having a problem with the hippies much like the baby boomers have a problem with the millenials today..
shareBoth generations were, to an extent, a product of their predecessors. There is a difference, however, in that hippies (today's baby boomers), were not all-encompassing--that is to say, hippies were a subset of baby-boomers. Millennials, on the other hand, are an overarching disliked group.
I think the biggest reason the hippies were disliked by the older generation was because their socialist views were seen as very anti-American, especially with cold war in full force. Keep in mind the America landed on the moon in 1969. This was peak tension. The hippies themselves were anti-American, as they opposed the Vietnam war and any form of imperialism. It was not a good time to oppose American ideals, and the hippies were everything that America did NOT stand for.
It was the hair
The oldsters hated long hair on men
In short, two war were going on, the Cold and Vietnam (this was a good thirty years after WWII, and almost 20 since the Koren war.. Iwas old enough in 69 to know about that.... Boomers and Millenials seem to be the big anti-Trump, anti-War,etc. force...(Ben and Jerry's Ice cream founders, who were 18-21 in 1969, De Niro, Streisand, Fonda,m already in their twenties or thirties back then, combines with today's millenials, a major anti-American force, but, again, not all encompassing..there WERE, after all,m MANY fine soldiers in the waR, EVEN today,Kat Timpf (Fox), and other young, wholesome American millenials provide a much needed (IMO,anyhoo) counterblast to the modern day "hippies"..sorry for a rambling post there!)
shareThere is an interesting parallel between the baby boomers and the millennials. I think it's important to point out that it wasn't the baby boomers who actually benefited the most from the post-war boom or 'civilizational peak' of America--it was the silent generation. The oldest baby boomers may have gotten in on the tail end of the boom, which ended in the early 70s, but they certainly weren't the primary beneficiaries.
The reason millennials, as a group, feel disenfranchised is because, as a cohort, they've been on the receiving end of everything wrong with western civilization. They inherited the worst forms of socialism and the worst forms of capitalism, stuck between a system that favors those that benefit from it, while receiving scraps with no opportunity to get ahead. Our current form of capitalism does not allow for organic movement, where newer generations are allowed to enter and establish wealth for themselves through prudent investing or saving.
The negative stigma associated with millennials, much like with the hippies of the 60s and 70s, is that of ideology. Hippies didn't see western ideals as being the civilizational peak of society, as it valued materialism and self-actualization as the highest goals of life. The decline of religiosity truly started after WW2, because Christianity and its religious replacement, Capitalism, are polar opposites. One focuses on spiritual development and the other focuses on material well-being. The pursuit of wealth degrades the soul and the moral fabric on which religion is ostensibly built on.
Somewhere along the lines the world has lost its place.
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shareAnd a lot of the Hollywood activists (like a certain Hanoi Jane0 were born in 1937, a sort of silent generaiton, so the hippies and oomers included those born aorund that time..
shareI don't think there's a thick line between generations nowadays. It seems to me that the division is much more related to politics/globalism/nationalism than to age.
shareCorrect, as I wrote, seems a lot of post-WWII teenagers became the progressives (also that "wonderful" George Soros, already nearing FORTY, in 1969, is the worst of the non-American Progessoives..) Then you got the Generation X's, won't even get into them.
Steve, a younger "PROUD AMERICAN" baby boomer
I believe so. They were thought of as lazy, dirty, unkempt, indecent druggies who thought handing out flowers to strangers would bring peace to the world. Not the sort most people would want hanging around their neighborhoods.
I don't think it's fair to compare the clan to most "hippies"..or to insist that he was prejudiced against hippies in general.
Wasn't Cliff kind of enchanted by the hippie girl until he visited the ranch and took note of their odd behavior..?
They spoke a sort of singsong lingo and defied the typical hippie creed of individualism (sort of like how current progressiveness has become more a collective groupthink and less free)..
He could sense danger lurked below their surface without even being privy to their reputation and he could see they weren't all about peace and love.
It wasn't about them being hippies...it was about how something about them just seemed way off.
People don't seem to know the difference between hippies and the political activists (anti-war, free-speech) of the late 60s.
These are all San Francisco, I don't know if LA was the same.
Do an image search of "free speech movement", the students in 64 look like young conservatives!
Search "Berkeley 1969" (campus protests and riots), very few have long hair.
Search "Haight Ashbury" and you see dirty hippies, mostly male. Not one hot hippie chick, that's a Tarantino fantasy!
Timothy Leary quote: “Turn on, Tune in, Drop out” was adopted by hippies. "Peace and Love" bullshit.
The hippies of The Beverley Hillbillies and R&M Laugh In were how Hollywood elites imaged hippies.
The late sixties was a very political time. Depending on your allegiances you either thought of the hippies as scum and Vietnam veterans as heroes or vice-versa.
shareAside from murder, the hippie community shown at the ranch was realistic. I was a teenager at that time, and hippies were regarded as filthy parasites who contributed nothing to society. They were self-absorbed, self-righteous, entitled, lazy stoners who didn't bathe. Most people either disliked them or laughed at them.
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