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This is better than Dunkirk!


I sure hope this movie is good.

Overall, a great movie. And it has a story unlike that wretched Dunkirk.

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Better than Dunkirk, I hope.

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Dunkirk was awesome. I doubt this will be as good as Dunkirk, or the 1976 Midway movie.

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One thing "Dunkirk" was not, was awesome.

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It was just random events edited together with no story.

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You were right! Everyone should save their money and donate it to a military charity. I was appalled at the dedication to the Japanese military which was part of the ending credits.

“This film is dedicated to the Americans and Japanese who fought at Midway.”

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Haters gonna hate, eh?

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Ignorance is bliss, eh? And it’s coming through loud & clear. One doesn’t have to hate to be appalled over dedicating a film to a war enemy at the time of the event. You may wish to read the link I posted followed by this one:

http://museums.cnd.org/njmassacre/njm-tran/njm-ch10.htm

Mrmojo4700 made reference to the massacre at Nanjing

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Dude, war knows only losing sides. There were atrocities from all participants. Don't forget the Unit 731 cover up by the US.

It's a sign of maturity when you can see that your enemies' pain is similar to yours. It is during war that we dehumanize our opponents, it is during peace that we understand that they are us.

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First of all I’m not a Dude. Secondly if you know any vet who served in the Pacific Theater during World War ll talk to him before he dies. My deceased dad served in the Pacific Theater and I know how he was affected. Same with my uncles.

“It's a sign of maturity when you can see that your enemies' pain is similar to yours.”
OMG, that’s a bunch of pollyanna hogwash! How dare you compare the atrocities committed by the Japanese to a “cover up” by the US. Unit 731 was perpetrated by the Japanese...not the US! The Japanese bombed the US and we’re supposed to show maturity by feeling their pain! 🤬 They wouldn’t have had that “pain” if they hadn’t bombed Pearl Harbor!

I hope no one ever has to depend on you to defend him/her. You more than likely would say “I feel your pain. It’s similar to mine.” In the mean while you’re being beat to death, shot or tortured. BTW, that enemy we were at war with deserved to be dehumanized...they weren’t human! The Japanese enemy at that time were not us by any means!

“It's a sign of maturity when you can see that your enemies' pain is similar to yours.” Yeah, go ahead and tell that inane line to the victims of the NAZIS! As they are being forced into cattle cars and gas chambers I can almost hear them telling the NAZIS...”I feel your pain. It’s similar to ours.” 😭

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Acknowledgment of the war's effect on your kin's psyche is a start. We agree that peace is the absence of violence.

Have a nice day, dude.

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Again, I’m not a dude...maybe a dudette? 😉

“peace is the absence of violence.” Since time immemorial it’s never going to happen. 😢 Greed, lust, power, testosterone make it not.🤷🏼‍♀️

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I’m watching a movie now “The Great Raid” about our army rangers attempting to rescue survivors of The Bataan Death March. You should watch it as it shows more of the atrocities by the inhumane Japanese army in the Philippines. You must not compare us to the Japanese during WW ll. The NAZIS treated our military better!

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I thoroughly preferred Midway. Dunkirk was based on a wonderful story that the movie just could not capture. I felt it was so muddled.

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THE TITLE INITIALLY TURNED ME OFF...THE TRAILER WAS AMAZING THOUGH.

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it's a remake.

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YEAH IVE SEEN THE ORIGINAL 15 TIMES..MY GRANDFATHER SERVED AND WE USED TO WATCH ALL THE WWII FLICKS TOGETHER OVER AND OVER AND READ THROUGH ALL HIS MANY BOOKS ON THE WHOLE THINGS.IM PRETTY BURNED OUT ON RETELLINGS OF STORIES I KNOW SO WELL...THIS TRAILER CAUGHT MY ATTENTION THOUGH.

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My father was in the British Navy.

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OH...AN INHERITED ALLY.

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amazing movie...

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hownos, I rarely disagree with you, but on this I beg to differ. I went today, Nov. 14, 2019, to see it. It is *not* a remake of the 1976 “Midway” film. It is a new film about the same event. This one was entirely different due to a fractured storyline, mostly a poor rendition and using not the best CGI. I came away devoid of feeling “That was a great movie about a historical event which was a turning point in WWII.” I couldn’t wait for the movie to end as it was an ordeal to sit through.

BTW, I didn’t appreciate the politically correct dedication at the end of the movie to the Japanese military.

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So then an earlier, 1976 hyear, "Midway" film was released..Iwas 15 years then..hmm..

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I’m sorry, but I’m unable to understand your reply. Would you rephrase please?

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Didn't recall an earlier film with the same title of the one being discussed, despite my being a teen at the time. I did research after the fact over on IMDB.com and saw, thus recalled, that there IS a 1976 film covering basically or entirely the same ground (pun) on the WWII Midway battle, also called MIDWAY (I was 15 in 1976 back when the earlier was released.)

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Now *that* one is worth your time viewing. Very good movie. This new piece of garbage not so! To dedicate this film to the barbaric Japanese at the time (now a humble people) sickened me!

Another good film is “Pacific”. You were a babe in the woods in ‘76. I wish it was ‘76 again...I was 33!

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This version is 1000x better.

You can hate the part about dedication of the Japanese military, that’s fine, but it didn’t effect how well done this movie was. Again, it’s way superior to that Chuck Heston version any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Reap it!!!

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The following describes my attempt, apparently inept, to convey the lack of enthusiasm I had for this rendition of the Midway battle. I actually found myself dozing off...not too often. :-) BTW, the acting was also banal. Dull movie plus dull acting does not make a movie great.

From: https://www.comicsbeat.com/midway-review/

“I don’t have the patience to fact-check the accuracy of Emmerich or screenwriter Wes Tooke’s research into telling this story, but for a movie like this to work at all, it needs to get two things right: pacing and tone. It doesn’t succeed in either case. For the most part, Midway is dull… very dull. Other than the bombing of Pearl Harbor and the actual Midway battle, the rest is bogged down by lots of exposition and strategy uttered mostly by actors growling through their teeth.”

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I haven’t seen this movie. What was the dedication all about?

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The following dedication made my blood boil! The entire quote is from an article,

https://www.militarytimes.com/off-duty/military-culture/2019/11/09/everything-about-blockbuster-midway-sinks-faster-than-japanese-carriers-at-midway/

*"This film is dedicated to the Americans and Japanese who fought at Midway.”*

“The same fanatical Japanese military who killed over 40 percent of American prisoners of war or used prisoners for rifle and bayonet target practice? The same who massacred at least 20 million Chinese men, women and children? The same who committed systemic rape of Chinese girls and women using bats, bottles, or bayonets as tools of mutilation before carrying out executions? The same who, according to Ian Toll’s “Conquering Tide,” would have children form into a circle, toss in a live hand grenade and have them play with until it exploded? The same who, when hungry, actually stripped muscle from living humans to eat? The same who used Chinese civilians for testing diseases and pathogens for biological warfare?

Even in the movie, Japanese officers take an American POW, tie rope around his hands that has an anchor attached to the other end, and toss the heavy weight into the Pacific Ocean.“

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There are many books out now that detail Japanese war atrocities committed during WWII. I remember one called Hidden Horrors that spoke of their cannibalism being in many cases part of ritualistic cruelty rather than a necessity because of lack of other food. In Nanking a favorite game was to rip infants from mothers arms and toss them in the air to another soldier who would bayonet them before they hit the ground. The list of inhumane atrocities go on forever.

So yes, the US prosecuted a savage war against the Japanese for good reason. The dedication seems like PC garbage from 2019 and would never have been made in 1945.

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It was PC garbage! How dare the film makers give a tribute to a barbaric army. Ask the Chinese how they feel about it.

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Considering the Chinese investors put up at least 25% of the money used to make the movie it would appear that they weren't as upset about it as you are.

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point taken 👍

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I thought Dunkirk was quite boring.

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it is, its bad...

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dunkirk was really bad...

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this movie was great, dunkirk was a stinker.

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Midway is a better story. A more compelling story with a proper ending of victory. Dunkirk isn't as compelling. That's my personal thoughts. However, Dunkirk was an extremely well made film. As a person that knows a lot about Midway, but not very much about Dunkirk, I got the sense of what it was about and why it was so important and the sentiment.

I'm not a Brit, but I would only think it meant more to them. Also, how could anybody not like the Spitfires? It's probably the best aerial dogfights filmed.

I'm not a Roland Emmerich fan or his movies. I was disappointed to see him attached to this movie. I have not seen it yet, but I know the history so I know what happens. Forget the story for a moment. In your opinion, which movie is better made?

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Just don't pay attention. COz if you think about it you get obessed with it and then you are a canadian

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