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Do you think this series will be woke?


I mean... it's Netflix. it's woke by default.

However, the trailer looked great. It focused in the female main character from Dark Crystal, but that's a kind of low level wokeness in our time. If that's all, the series could even be a decent fantasy one.

The male character didn't look like a psychopath, or plain retarded. They didn't make him a black gelfling, or deleted him from the story, or made him a lesbian second female main character, you know, the usual changes. The bad guys didn't look like some nazi parody.

Maybe, maybe...

Naaaah. It's Netflix. It'll be woke.

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It's different gelflings from the movie. There are three in this. They look similar, but not the same characters.

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Why does it have Henson's name on it? The man has been dead for 29 years. It's not like anyone knows if he would have wanted to be involved in this.

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That's a very good question. Is it even legal?

Crediting 'based in Jim Henson's Dark Crystal' would have been right. But they're using Henson's name for a product that Henson could or could not have supported. At the very least, it's a lack of delicacy.

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I'm sure his family would win if they made it into a case.

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They hired the daughter of Jim Henson as producer.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0378229

Not only this series. She has gone from working in low budget productions to suddenly being producer in this series, in the next movie of Guillermo del Toro, and in the remake of Labyrinth by Fede Alvarez, the director from Evil Dead (the remake).

Same with Brian Henson, the son, from working in low budget productions he has been hired as producer in the remake of Labyrinth, in the following season of Dark Crystal and as a director in a movie with Billy Crystal.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005008

I guess that was the price paid for the family to be quiet.

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Oh wow, ok, not sure if you can do much then, but still tasteless as you say. Let's hope the woke is not to apparent at least.

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I hope it's not Netflix usual wokeness level. Henson was an artist, he doesn't deserve that. I don't feel confident about it, though. We'll see.

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They found a legal loophole to be able to call it a Jim Henson production. One of the producers has a muppet on their hand that resembles Henson, and gives orders through it.

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Whats this woke term you're obsessed with ?
lemme look it up ... ok , first 2 out of google are:
1)
verb
past of wake1.
adjectiveINFORMAL•US
alert to injustice in society, especially racism.
"we need to stay angry, and stay woke"
2)
What does the slang word woke mean?
Woke means being conscious of racial discrimination in society and other forms of oppression and injustice. In mainstream use, woke can also more generally describe someone or something as being "with it."
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oh i can see why your so apoplectic with rage about this issue now...
people going around , not being racist... imagine that.
They'll be letting colored people on the tv next! and women!


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the term "woke" is just another colloquialism that seems to bother a lot of soft right wingers who spend most of their time online whining about "the Left". The reason he's butthurt about Netflix is because the AltRight believes it is a front for George Soros.

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Whats this woke term you're obsessed with ?

'Woke', AKA 'SJW', AKA 'Cultural Marxism', it's a term that labels the current ideology/religion that has become mainstream and dominant in modern left in the last two decades.

The key elements are fourth wave feminism and diversity, this last one establishing that whites should step down and be replaced by non-white* people in business, science, politics and culture in western countries because of XVIIIth and XIXth centuries colonialism. Traditional elements of western ideologies like meritocracy and the rule of law are often dismissed and even rebuked.

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*Be aware that the definition of 'white' is a blurry one, since it relates to both ethnicity and race.

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You all sound like a bunch of morons using the word "woke".....🙄🙄🙄🙄

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I hope you are referring to people who consider themselves "woke".

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That and the moronic use of the word ...lol

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You all sound like a bunch of morons using the word "woke".....

Fine.

So... what term would you use to refer to the current dominant ideology/religion in western Left, this one that has as key elements fourth wave feminist and diversity agenda?

You don't like the word 'woke'. Fine. Which word do you propose?

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It doesn't need a word. Just say your enlightened to current....blah blah blah or whatever topic you think you are enlightened to......woke sounds obnoxiously trendy...

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So... the ideology/religion that has become mainstream and dominant in the modern western world doesn't need a world to name it. Isn't it?

Interesting...

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OP is an anti-SJW troll farmer. He and his crew from Reddit, 4chan, 8chan, Reddit are doing what they used to do on the IMDB forums before they were shut down, and that's swarm various IPs with screeches of "PC gone amok" and "diversity being shoved down everyone's throats and etc. I just put him on ignore. Another one of his crew is also posting stupid "this is woke" nonsense, who I also put on ignore.

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You are like a stuck record, rinse and repeat with no substance.

You are basically sitting there going. i don't like what i am reading so instead of connversation i'm gonna put my fingers in my ears and scream sexist and racist until people hear me, i will supply no counter argument, no rebuke, just name calling and false accusations and assumptions.

It is the standard left mentality. Complain about racism by being racist, complain about sexism by being sexist. You are not the answer you are part of the problem.

Go ahead and block me, at this rate your forum will just be blank with nothing to read but the word deleted, should make interesting reading.

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It's also the standard right mentality. Fundamentalists and radicals are all basically the same, just different agendas.

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Deet, the girl gelfling from Grottan clan (undergrounders) has 2 fathers. Woke enough for ya?
But, otherwise, she was totally normal and had the hots for Rian, the hero guy gelfling.

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The "two fathers" crap was very low key, as in it wasn't made a big point of, outside of her mentioning "my fathers" a couple times, and then they had to throw in a quick scene of her "two dads" holding hands when they left their home.

But it really did stink of so-called "Wokeness", or SJW type mentality, which I was disappointed by. It was forgettable, and didn't ruin the whole show for me by any means. However, it was completely pointless to throw in. It was literally throwing it in to throw it in, to be "topical" and "inclusive" of our modern era. The thing is...these aren't humans we're dealing with. These are GELFLINGS, made up little elf/fairy people, in a made up fantasy world. Projecting Hollywood's current obsession with everything LGBT and "Diversity", on non-human creatures in a non-Earth planet, is silly as hell. Assuming that Gelflings have gay and lesbian people in their society just like humans do, is the worst kind of human conceit, and besides the fact, as already stated, it was totally pointless to throw in. Not to mention, where's her and her brother's mom? There still needs to be a mom for kids to happen, even with Gelflings. It was just nonsensical inclusion.

Deet having "Two Dads" added absolutely nothing of any meaningful substance to the story, let alone even her character. There was no history of context, it was just a quick wink and nod to the audience "SEE WE HAVE LGBT COVERED". As if they needed to be represented in ALL things, which of course they don't. If it's organic, if it fits and makes sense, then fire away. But throwing "diversity" and modern Earth issues into a 30 year old fantasy story, is incredibly pointless and excessive.

Deet the character is great. She was actually my favorite Gelfling. And like I said, the "my two dads" thing was completely throwaway and forgettable. But it IS still annoying in a small, surface way, that someone in the production just HAD to throw that in there.

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Blocking OP. Another troll farmer, just like in the days before the IMDB when tons of them started flooding forums with their nonsense.

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See comment above.

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Thank you. This question should be asked and answered for every new show that comes out. Especially when it's a reboot of shows from back in the day. We really need a site dedicated this question. Wish I had more time on my hands to make it happen.

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I'm amazed how all the "woke" liberals are so offended by this thread even though they shouldn't be. They are only "tolerant" of people who share their views.

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