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Peele is the new Shyamalan


Except edgier, more talented.

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Shyamalan has directed one masterpiece and had a huge influence in modern cinema. He became some kind of one-hit-man, but the hit was big.

Peele is just a guy with a couple of nice horror movies. There's quite a few like him.

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By M. Night's "one masterpiece" I will guess you are talking about The Sixth Sense.

It's a great film but I actually have it ranked as his fourth best movie. I believe that everyone if his first four films are excellent but I have always thought the one among those four that gets the least respect is the most interesting and enjoyable: The Village. I love it and think it's underrated.

After that I'd put Signs and Unbreakable, usually in that order, and then The Sixth Sense.

I'm glad that his career has recovered significantly since the days of After Earth, The Happening and The Last Airbender. I hope that one day he makes a full recovery and makes another string of films that are on par with his first four efforts.

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I hope his career progression is a lot more successful than Shyamalan's.

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I've never seen people so fixated on a director before for 1-2 movies, one of which was extremely overrated and I have little doubt the second one isn't. I'm pretty sure people are obsessing over him because of him being perceived as 'atraditional' being a black comedian. I don't think anyone knows the name of the directors who created other well-received horrors, like It, Hereditary, It Follows, and A Quiet Place. I sure don't. I know of Peele because I loved Mad TV so I paid attention. Then all this idiocy started.

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I'm aware of the directors of all of the other films you listed save for It Follows. The reason people aren't as aware of the other directors is because they're relative new on the film scene in general, aside from John Krazinski who directed and had a starring role in A Quiet Place. Jordan Peele has been in front of the camera for a while before he got behind it which is why a lot more people recognize his name. Hereditary was the first film directed by Ari Aster and Andy Muschietti who directed IT hasn't been in the game very long. Neither of them have been in front of the camera though like Peele has which again is why people don't really know their names.

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Seems a bit ridiculous, don't you think, since Peele is being treated like some genius while those first-time directors who've had good horrors are totally unnoticed. As I said, it must be because people know who he is (and he's a black comedian), and they act like he's the first person to ever make a horror comedy.

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People normally don't pay much attention to directors that are just starting out or directors in general if they're not into movies like cinephiles are. Again the reason Peele is being recognized so much is because he's been in other things in front of the camera for a while. The only other one who has is John Krazinski but is mostly only known for The Office. None of the other directors have been on front of the camera.

Most well known directors are only well known after they've had a handful of great movies like Nolan or Tarantino. Most of these other guys have just got started.

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Peele had never written or directed anything before Get Out. This is his first time behind the camera, and it's not a comedy, but a horror thriller. It has people curious. It comes out; 100% on RT, one of the sharpest, tightest, most intense horror thrillers in a very long time. It had people going "Holy shit, this was directed by that A-A-ron guy???" So in a way, you are right. The way you're writing it, though, makes it seem like people liked Get Out solely because Peele directed it and not because the movie itself was good. It wouldn't matter if Paulie Shore had directed it, Get Out would still be excellent. I'm not sure why you're making a big deal about Peele receiving the attention when the exact same thing happened to John Krasinksi and A Quiet Place. "Wow, Jim from The Office directed this???" As others have said, David Robert Mitchell (It Follows) had only made a bunch of no-budget indie films that nobody had seen, and Andy Muschietti (It) had only made Mama, which came and went. Nobody knew who they were.

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Aster is a dime-store Aronofsky. Until he proves himself otherwise.

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That wasn't the question, though I don't see what you mean.

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Sorry, I hit reply on the wrong comment. If you read further down the feed, my comment will become self-explanatory.

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No worries!

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I don't think anyone knows the name of the directors who created other well-received horrors, like It, Hereditary, It Follows, and A Quiet Place. I sure don't. I know of Peele because I loved Mad TV so I paid attention. Then all this idiocy started.

Well, I don't remember the name, but I know that the guy that directed 'It' was one of the two Argentinian directors Hollywood imported recently. The other one is the guy behind the remake of Evil Dead (I don't remember the name neither). Both of them are VERY good.

Same with 'It Follows', I don't remember the director's name, but I know it's the same that released Under the Silver Lake a few months ago, which I loved even more than It Follows (best ending I have seen in a while).

Then you have the guy that made Occulus and the sequel of Ouija (which is a damn good horror movie, far better than the original). This guy is a must-follow. He's the same guy that has made The Haunting of Hill House, the series that was released last months.

Last year you had 'Veronica', from the same guy that made 'Rec'. He's probably the best horror director in Spain right now. And you had 'Ghostland' from the french guy that made 'Martyrs'. That was a movie I was expecting, and... well, it was just meh (being polite).

EDIT. A couple more I forgot. Apostle, released last months, was an horror movie made by the same director that made both The Raid Redemption and The Raid 2, two f*cking masterpieces. This guy is a bloody good director. I've been following him and the lack of projects he has is incomprehensible.

And The Ritual, horror movie released last year, was made by the same guy that made that short in VHS (if you have seen the movie, yes, THAT short you're thinking about). And he was the guy behind Southbound, which I hope there is a sequel, because it was bloody brilliant.

To name (or not-name) a few.

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ohh thnx man, downloaded Under the silver lake but forgot it in some folder, and now I kinda have to see The ritual and Ghostland :)

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You're welcome ^^

One thing. Be aware that Under the Silver Lake is not a horror movie. It's more like a David Lynch movie mixed with psychedelic 70s movies and mystery thriller. It's good? Absolutely, but it's not everyone's cup of tea.

In case you watch it, don't forget to check internet after it. One of the main themes in the movie is clues hidden in plain sight, and the movie itself is full of hidden clues. There's quite a few threads about it. Silly stuff, but fun.

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Yea it was good, trippy movie, it started really strong but I didnt really liked the last 20ish minutes (ending), still entertaining

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Interesting. I didn't like the third act, but the ending itself seemed to me like pure genious. [spoiler]That kind of movies use to end either in (1) nothing is really solved, X-Files style, (2) the guy is nuts (3) the guy saves the world. But here, the main character was right, the clues were real, but at the end it was all a game of some rich guys with too much money and spare time following some crazy guru. He solved the big mystery, but what lied behind was just meaningless and irrelevant. I didn't see it coming[/spoiler]

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Andy Muschietti, David Robert Mitchell, John Krasinski. And no, I didn't just look them up

All of these directors are getting attention from critics and movie buffs, especially Horror buffs. Sure, not on the level of Jordan Peele, but enough to get their next projects greenlit and financed. John Krasinski is obviously not hurting for work. He has a gorgeous celebrity wife, stars as Jack Ryan on an Amazon show, and is set for life with Office residuals, I'm sure

It made bank and Muschietti is scheduled to direct the sequel. I have no doubt that he will be able to ride the success of It into a long career

David Robert Mitchell just released Under the Silver Lake. It wasn't that well-reviewed, but that is the risk you take when you work in the arthouse indie scene. I'm sure he will be fine

Ari Aster already has his next film, Midsommar, lined up. He was famous (or infamous) since way back when for directing the student film Strange Thing About the Johnsons. He barely released Hereditary last year and will release another this year, and every hardcore Horror fan is frothing at the mouth waiting for it. His career is going very well

Sure, Peele benefits from the inclusion-movement in Hollywood. Sure, it helps that his movies contain obvious social commentary. Yes, maybe he was in the right place at the right time and is getting promoted. But that is not necessarily all a good thing for him. It is very hard to live up to winning an Oscar for your very first movie. It is setting him up to fail

Jack Nicholson said he was glad that his first few Roger Corman movies were so "bad", because he didn't feel the pressure of needing to stage a comeback later in his career. It happened to Shyamalan. It might happen to Peele too

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It should happen if there is any sanity, but I was genuinely surprised it didn't happen with 'Us', and it looks like the audiences that aren't suffering from SJW syndrome were the most vocal about disliking that movie. So Peele will ride off the critics who are scared to criticize 'inclusive' movies for a while.

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i agree, his movies are average, but most horror movies are so bad these days he stands out. It is kind of like being a pretty girl in a small town.

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There's still better horror films that received less hype and zero Oscar chances.

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Shyamalan made two good movies, and one of them wasn’t really a horror. The rest of his movies are awful, with very little substance.

Us, and Get Out even more so we’re both excellent, original movies with a lot of important social commentary.
Jordan Peele is a far better writer/Director than Shyamalan.

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CherHorroritz You do realize how fucking stupid you sound saying that Peele is better for two movies and yet state that Shyamalan made TWO GOOD MOVIES as well. So by not having made more movies that makes Peele better? This is why people who are kissing his butt are such morons. At least Shyamalan has a real record, and many of his films are well-received and I think they are decent for the most part: Signs, Split, Unbreakable, and The Sixth Sense.

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Quality over quantity.
Signs was awful - a genius alien race allergic to water come to a planet covered in water.
Split was a really awful depiction of DID and was just bad.
The other two are his best films.
Peele is technically a much better director who doesn’t really solely on cheap jump scares and who knows how to build tension. He’s also a much better writer.

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I don't give a damn about YOUR opinion, I said they were well-received. But really, you dismissed a whole movie based on a mere plot detail. I can dismiss Get Out on the sheer stupidity of the controlled black people acting like freaks instead of rich white people just so they had an excuse to be creepy. Signs had one of the best 'non-jump scares' of any 'scary movie'. You'd kiss Peele's ass so hard if he wrote and directed Signs with a black cast.

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That’s a pretty huge plot hole. Why would anyone invade a planet which is covered in what kills them?
Shyamalan made one good horror movie and one good thriller. The rest are beyond terrible.
Yeah Peele has only made two movies but they’ve both been incredible horror movies and have refreshed the genre which was in dire need of refreshment.
Shyamalan hasn’t made anything good since Unbreakable.

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Why the hell would a white person want to to invade a black person's body? You really want to play it that way? Get Out was actually a stupid comedy, but you think it's "incredible". You're a joke.

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It’s literally explained in the plot buddy. If it went over your head I really don’t know what to say.

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"Because it's in fashion". Is THAT the explanation you are referring to buddy? That a bunch of rich white people decided it was 'fashionable' to steal the bodies of humans and subject them to a life of torture so they can be black?

THAT'S. STUPID.

It's more believable that some aliens would invade a toxic planet. This is why Get Out is a *comedy*. It's an unbelievably goofy premise that I suppose is an exaggerated interpretation of 'white privilege' and you're taking it seriously. It's a dumber premise than The Happening. And critics have a huge bias for goofy horrors over straight forward realistic horror. Let's see Peele make ONE of those.

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So you didn’t watch the movie then? Or you certainly didn’t pay attention.
Some wanted to be black, yes, others wanted the biological traits, others just wanted their eyes man.

It’s ok if you don’t understand satire and need a solemn cheese fest like Signs featuring the universes dumbest aliens.

Both Get Out and Us are social horrors, which are more scary to me than some ghost kid puking in a tent.

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I honestly don't remember the 'eyes' part. What biological traits? And do you honestly think that sounds any less stupid? But then you call it 'satire', well a big part of satire is routed in stupidity and comedy. It's mediocre commentary on something having to do with black people's victimhood yadda yadda. That doesn't make it automatically good unless you're desperate to virtue-signal. Signs also wasn't really about aliens, if you want to get 'analytical'. The premise of that movie isn't supposed to be the most believable depiction of extraterrestrial intelligence. Your focusing on them because you just don't want to take that movie for its symbolism, and instead your focus is on something irrelevant. If I did that with Get Out then yes, it IS stupid. And serious or satire, it's not scary at all. What exactly are you afraid of? That a white person is going to hijack your identity? Maybe use black people to elevate themselves just like the idiots that gave it an Oscar are doing?

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"rely solely on cheap jump scares"
Opinion 100% discarded. Stopped reading.

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Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

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You're a complete moron. The Sixth Sense and Unbreakable are far superior to anything Peele will ever direct in his lifetime. In fact, The Sixth Sense alone is better than anything Peele will ever direct.

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The Sixth Sense is miles better than Get Out, miles better. Peele acts like he's the best thing since sliced bread.

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peele is refreshing and i think the deal is that he had been a comedian turned thriller/horror/suspense director. honestly he has yet to make a horror film, im guessing that will happen w/candyman. anyhoo i was a shyamalan fan but he lost me after the happening and definitely after lady in the water. i heard split was bad but i wanna see it so i can see glass. shyamalan was new when he made the sixth sense and i remember everyone talking about it and the "twist", just as refreshing as peele is now. folks like refreshing!

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Get Out isn't even that original. Its just Invasion Of The Body Snatchers with a lame plot twist that you can see coming a mile away. Why dosn't he just remake Soylent Green and gets some no name black actor to say "ITS BLACK PEOPLE, SOYLET BLACK IS BLACK PEOPLE". I don't think Peele can afford Will Smith.

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Weak argument!! Invasion of the Body Snatchers? LOLOL Not even close to the plot of Get Out. One is an alien taking over the entire world by replicating bodies, and the other is a small town using people under hypnosis as servants. I'm not sure how you even got someone to agree with you. What a week comparison, i just can't get over this. Get Out was one of the most original movies I've seen, and is in NO WAY LIKE INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS!

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Is that suppose to be a good or a bad thing. Either way I cant wait for his Alien Invasion movie where aliens are vulnerable to Alfro, Rap Music and Melanin.

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You know even when Shyamalan movies weren't the best. He at least tired something original. He didn't just ripping off Invasion of the Body Snatchers and made the White People the "Body Snatchers" and Black People the "Bodies".

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Shyamalan had two good movies and so did Peele. Shyamalan had the bigger hit, so he's in the lead for now.

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M. Night has had far more than two good movies.

In my opinion, he's had four GREAT movies (Sixth Sense, Unbreakable, Signs, The Village) and three more GOOD movies (The Visit, Split, Glass). And even the ones that aren't especially good still hold a certain amount of entertainment value, especially The Happening and Lady in the Water.

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Get Out is a flavor of the month movie, and Us is completely average. The Sixth Sense is an all time classic and Unbreakable is up there too. It's not even comparable. Peele got one thing right though, it is fashionable to be black because that's the main reason why he's being over praised right now.

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