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The Shepherd's "S.P.E.C.T.R.E." like group


While this movie was overall disappointing, I did like the idea of a SPECTRE like group of real characters infuencing events around WWI. I didn't catch how many were in the group and maybe I missed clues on who some of them were, if they were real people.

Grigory Rasputin
Mata Hari
Gavrilo Princip
Erik Jan Hanussen - this one (the Daniel Bruhl character) I didn't know, but apparently he was a real guy.

Were there any hints about others in the group that would indicate who they were?

The Morton character running the thing like Blofeld was pretty ridiculous. It was way too obvious from the beginning that he was the mole inside the British government. The twist that the mole is the actual leader of the group is fine, if you don't try and work out how he's zipping back and forth from London to this remote area of Nepal without anybody noticing.


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Vladimir Lenin
Mata Hari
Erik Jan Hanussen
Grigori Rasputin
The Sheperd (Morton)

https://static0.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/The-Dark-Cabal-in-The-Kings-Man.jpg < - whoever these other folks are. Probably dictators.

Bolshevism is just another part of the Shepherd’s master plan. Gavrilo Princip wasn't one of the group leaders if I recall but just an assassin that got lucky after the botched nade ambush to start WW1. Apparently Adolf Hitler was in the movie but I don't recall seeing him.

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Thanks. I didn't notice Gavrilo not being at the meetings, but he certainly doesn't seem like any kind of leader, just an agent. He did have one of the rings though, so I guess they distribute them beyond the people sitting at the table. Come to think of it, Mata Hari was no leader, but she was there and is sitting at the table for some reason.

Note: edited title to remove spoiler

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The closing credits stopped in the middle, and we see a scene with Lenin, someone else, and Adolf Hitler. It was very brief, he was introduced to Lenin

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Ah, thanks. I did not stick around once the credits started on this. Didn't expect there would be a scene. What did the someone else look like? Asian? Chaing Kai-shek or Mao Zedong? Or maybe Il Duce?

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It was someone in that group in several scenes, but I don't remember who he was supposed to be. Maybe Erik Jan Hanussen? Did he survive to the end?

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The mafiosi guy could be Mussolini, also bit old here, but this is not a accurate depiction anyway. And he looks so stereotypical Italian (actually like Bud Spencer). The asian dude wears a hat popular in South East Asia, like Indonesia or Malaysia, the actor I presume is Andy Cheung (Shepherd's Flock Member #6). Not so sure about the history in early 1900, most people from that area known were just born in the 1920s. But makes sense to have more a Malayan (belongs to the Commonwealth) as a Chinese.

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So Bolshevism winds up as just a red herring?

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