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The best superhero trilogy ever made


At times, you just need to step back and just watch and enjoy. This is what Glass offers.

There are a few things that you can say and write about how M. Night Shyamalan decided to end the whole saga, things you will find in reviews and articles about Glass.

Nolan changed how we saw the heroes movies with Batman, I think Shyamalan just topped that and we are alive in a cinema moment that people will look back in time and admire.

This, gentleman, is how you make a superhero saga.

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agree but i wouldent call it a super hero trilogy but a drama trilogy about the idea of super heros in real life

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One of the best. But I’ll still give that honor to a certain trilogy starring a character they call Cap. Yeah I know bringing up the Marvel world is an uncool thing for the adults here (actually it’s the cool thing as far as you belittle it), but I’ll stick to my guns. Those last two films were dynamite from a filmmaking and action standpoint. But wait, isn’t Shyamalan’s trilogy too good to be called a superhero trilogy? Ah, no. It’s not because it ain’t your typical Superhero fare and it’s apparently a big middle finger to superheroes in general — so it owns the term like nobody’s business.

This, gentleman, is how you make a superhero saga
Aw, shucks! I feel that way about a few superhero sagas. Some I would argue are truer superhero films because they, uh, honor the superhero lore. Damn my appreciation for all kinds of movies.

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The Cap films are quite good overall, but I thought that trilogy--if we're going to call it such--is dragged down a bit by Civil War. Not that Civil War is a bad movie, but it was a step down from Winter Soldier, in my opinion. It's much like how The Dark Knight Rises was a drop from TDK.

I think Glass is better than Civil War or TDKR. But I'd say either of those films are better than Split, which I actually think is the weak link of M. Night's series.

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"Civil War" was more of an Avengers film than a Captain America film...

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I have BOTH The Dark Knight and Cap Trilogy as a complete Tie for #1.

to me there are cases to be made for either one being better and Equal.

The only real advantage IMO you could argue is The Dark Knight Trilogy probably has the overall best film or The Consensus is The Dark Knight is the overall best film in Both Trilogies.

With that being said for me personally I feel The Winter Soldier is right on The Dark Knights level

I Consider Batman begins slight better than Cap 1.

The Dark Knight and Winter Soldier Equal(but fully recognize the majority favors The Dark Knight)

and Feel Civil War is a solid notch above The Dark Knight Rises(but still recognize TDKR is very good)


IMO as of right now...I think the consensus is still in The Dark Knight Trilogies favor...But I feel strongly that in the next 5 years The Cap Trilogy will overtake TDKT in the Majority of Polls,list and articles

right now, I'd say It probably 60/40% in polls,list and articles in TDKT favor as the #1 superhero trilogy

IMO 5 years from I think it will be something like 55/45% in favor of the Cap trilogy.

Unfortunately after seeing Glass..I dont see The Unbreakable/Split/Glass Trilogy breaking many peoples top 5.....which is a shame...It now fits into The Spider-man and X-Men Prequel category where It has 2 excellent movies and ended with a misfire

1 more than worth noting

Its extreme hard to categorize The Avengers as A Trilogy consider theres going to be at least 4 films and The last 2 are 2 parters...

But Hpothrically speaking...

While My Cap and TDKT are tied for #1....I must admit....If we counted Civil War as an Avengers film(which it very well kinda is), and I could replace The awful Age Of Ultron With Civil War

A Potential Trilogy of The Avengers, Civil War and Avengers IW....would take over my new #1 spot

^ this Trilogy would IMO be the ONLY Superhero trilogy to have 3 GREAT FILMS.

The Dark Knight Trilogy has 1 Great film and 2 good films

the Cap Trilogy has 2 Great Films and 1 good one

for me personally...The Avengers, Civil War and Avengers IW as a Trilogy is #1...

but Its not a trilogy and doesnt fit as a trilogy

Both TDKT and Cap Trilogy are true trilogies

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Not to shade your opinion in any way but I have to add my two cents.

I disagree about TDK only having one great film. For me personally Batman Begins beats Captain America the first Avenger by a wide margin. Here is why. When I look at what defines a film I look at the impact it leaves how well received it is etc. I also look at what new things it brought to the table. Personally I think Superman the movie and Batman Begins are the best origin stories ever told for a superhero. The reason being each of them brought new things to the table which were big. Superman the movie was the start of all of this. It is the pioneer of superhero film making. Thing is aside from being the first it had truly exceptional things, such as Oscar worthy special effects. In fact it won the Oscar that year. Do I need to say any more about the John Williams score? That is truly amazing as well as iconic. This movie had so much damn ambition it was crazy. The cast was extremely stacked, this movie so easily could have fallen flat on it's face. Only other superhero film to have won the best visual effects Oscar was Spider-man 2. Think about that gap...

Now to Batman Begins. This movie takes a unique approach to telling the origin of the hero. It tells it out of order through flashbacks interjected into the story. It all comes together very nicely. The villain is quite unique in the fact that he blends in and no one knew who the villain was upon watching Batman Begins. In most superhero films you know within about the first act of the film who the villain will be. Again this was an ambitious project, Ras Al Ghul while a big character in the comics is not that popular of a Batman villain. He is not a guaranteed cash cow like Joker, Catwoman etc. The mentor turned villain was a nice twist and it had the best training montage any superhero film has ever had. Iron Man pulled a lot from Batman Begins. The I am no executioner scene still to this day sends chills down my spine. The music by Hans Zimmer is emotional as well as gripping. The only issue with eh film is the editing of the fights.

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Sorry had to add another thread to get to my point. Cinematography was always great in the Nolan films.

Captain America the First Avenger while a good movie does not bring anything new that transcends the genre. It simply delivers a competent superhero origin story. Nothing in it is amazing. It is all just done competently. Nothing bad it is good just not exceptional. In my opinion Batman Begins often gets slept on. Captain America is not that inspired to me, don't get me wrong it is good but it is not anywhere near the ambition level of Batman Begins. What things did Captain America do that were unique within it's own genre?

The Dark Knight vs Winter Soldier again same scenario. The Dark Knight introduces those scenes that are potent which everyone remembers. Why so serious? The boat scene, the final two face scene. Winter Solider delivers some good stuff but there do not exist scenes like that which everyone references to death like the ones I just listed. The music is far better in TDK as well. I mean Bucky and Cap's rivalry is good that is the best thing it has going for it. A film like Logan stands up better to TDK because it has potent scenes like this. As well a a gutsy ending that had never been done in a superhero film. That is what I mean new innovative things. I feel a lot of MCU films play it pretty safe. Not all of them just a lot of them.

I think TDK trilogy will also age better. Due to the fact that it is done more practically than the Captain America movies are. I am sorry but Civil War I was never a big fan of. Spider-man in that movie serves no narrative purpose only there for fan service. Civil War's plot is also rather convoluted. I always said BVS and Civil War are the same film. One is good the other is total trash. Bvs is trash of course.

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I agree about Cap, however, do you reckon you consider that because of the storyline of that, let's call it trilogy, or for what Chris Evans brings on the table?

For me, even if Cap is the best Marvel story that came in the cinema, I would had like it without Evans. I think he gave his role that connection to the comics.

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IMO Glass is one of the worst and most disappointing movies I've ever seen.

Unbreakable and Split were absolutely amazing.

had Glass been even close to the same quality it would have been my #1 favorite Superhero trilogy.

stunningly Glass is the rare movie that is so horrifically awful it potentially ruins the first 2 great movies.


for me this film is so awful, I do not know how anyone could claim its great unless they are biased...


This is literally the most disappointed I've ever been leaving a theater.




Nolan changed how we saw the heroes movies with Batman, I think Shyamalan just topped that and we are alive in a cinema moment that people will look back in time and admire.


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I'm sorry but I feel this is clearly you being biased.

If you liked this movie, fine I guess...

But I know for certain, That when you were watching the ending of this film, If You did indeed actually like it, The thoughts were going through your head, "Man,This is going to be controversial, Or you knew damn well, People were either going to Love or Hate the ending and movie"

your statement are is just delusional.....nothing about the movie or its consensus so far even remotely suggests people think this way of the movie.

I dont even think you think this way...I think You wanted to LOVE this movie, and are now going overboard in praising a movie and ending that you know is very disliked and controversial.

the facts are, your statement is simply delusional...YOU May want people to look back and admire it...butI think you damn well clearly know thats not going to happen, How you can look at the reviews,reactions and box office so far and come away thinking this movie and ending is going to be admired and praised is just plain scary.

Reviews are awful, Both RT and Meta
IMDB score is plummeting.
deadline is already posting Negative audience reaction scores(full cinemascore comes out tonight)
Glass is already badly under performing now expected to make only 52 million after tracking at 65 to 70 M


this film is a Huge misfire....Its completely ok for you to Love it...but you are in a minority...

you simply can not delusionallly make things up.

the level of Praise and Love you have for this movie is not even remotely shared by the majority...The consensus for this film is that of a Misfire/Disappointment...You cant delusionally try to make that into a timeless classic people are going to look back and admire.

just accept that you like a film most others dont...

no need to get weird and creepy about it....Glass is a disappointment, at best Controversial...

for me, Its a complete failure, and almost Unforgivable...I'm seriously angry...I'm afraid the next time I watch Unbreakable and Split its going to potentially ruin these 2 great movies for me.

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I liked the beginning and the ending fine. It was the hour of pointless pop-psycho analysis that had me drifting off. There were no fresh ideas introduced throughout the treatment of these individuals. Just stalling for a final confrontation you could see a mile away.

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Biased?

Shyamalan is not even in my top 20 favorite directors of all time, Split and Unbreakable don't reach my top 50 movies, but I enjoyed them enough to watch Glass, expecting the same, but instead I was blown away from what it delivered.

Delusional? Dude, we need to stop these nonsense and enjoy movies on what they are. With a reduced number of effects and based only on serious actors: McAvoy (who was indeed in beast mode), Jackson and Willis who reminded people he can still act, this movie delivered big time.
All three of them offered so much, most of ala James, that peformed at some amazing level. His take on the beast is something that you rarely saw in the past decade in a mainstream movie.
I agree that the movie has some small flaws, they all do, even Rear Window has some, but this one delivers big time. The plot twist was not the train, but what follows and the build up for that moment is, in my opinion, spectacular. Again, you don't see stuff like that these days.

You call my statement biased and delusional. Dude, I considered, from my point of view, The Nolan trilogy inferiour to Watchmen, which is, imho, the very best superhero movie ever made, however, I can acknowledge what Nolan did and how he put the bar at a very, very, very high level.

Reviews, ha, Imdb? Rotten Tomatoes? hahaha, Are you serious? Those were relevant back at the end of the 2010, now are a full band of PR Based post and reviews. That is biased, fella.
Imdb forgot how not to be. Why the hell do you think we don't have the famous boards of discussion there?

Remember that those "critics" that you love so much, at some point, said that Avengers is the best superhero movie ever made.

Your points and arguments are zero. You wrote half of page to say that I am deluded, biased and critics say.
Please, do yourself a favour, next time when you want a debate come with real arguments and details, but I suspect that your movie preferances and opinions are based on imdb.

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Shyamalan is that you?

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