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Do the writers think we're idiots?


Everybody knows that walking barefoot is quite noisy. The process of putting down and removing bare feet from the floor creates a distinct sound. Especially on wooden floors, where it's next to impossible to be quiet when barefoot. So why have the characters walking around barefoot on wooden floors? A certain suspension of disbelief is always to be expected in any film, but do the writers seriously expect us to pretend that we aren't aware that bare feet makes a sound?

Because you know what makes much less noise than walking barefoot? WEARING SOCKS! Furry slippers or even sneakers will also make much less noise when touching the ground. So why not have all the characters wearing thick socks? Heck, they should probably be wearing triple pairs of socks, just to be extra protected!

Also: Why the hell have the characters live in a wooden house, filled with stuff that can fall onto the floor at any moment? There's even a scene where the mother straightens a picture hanging on the friggin wall! WHY?

If they really wanted to make us believe the premise, then the first thing any sane person would do, would be to move into a building with thick concrete walls, and then put PADDING ON EVERYTHING! There should have been thick carpets and pillows fastened to the walls. Every fork and plate and screwdriver would have a thick layer of tape around it, to dampen any sound should it fall to the ground. And every goddamn picture would be taken down from the walls!

Additionally: Why the hell didn't they set up a few noise-makers around the place? If these monsters only go after sound, it would be super easy to distract them, by putting up a bunch of decoys around the house. For example, you could place a few cans out in the yard and tie them up with a string that you could pull from within the house at any time.

I mean... COME ON!

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Just live next to the waterfall. Even a 5 year old can think of a better monster

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tHE FARM WASNT NEXT TO THE WATERFALL, THEY NEEDED TO CULTIVATE THE FOOD SO WOULD HAVE TO TRAVLE TO THE FARM EVERY DAY TO CULTIVATE THE FOOD THEY WERE GOING TO EAT

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So? Walking a few minutes to the place you farm is hardly a big deal given the amount of security the waterfall noise would provide.

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So poindexter, how do you think they are going to build a farm out there close to the waterfall, and wasnt the waterfall in a forest with hill and rock faces all over.

They already have a farm built, a home and fields with corn.

Im not sure if you even saw the film to make a judgement that they should leave all they have in one area to move to another and start again with what resources to build a whole farm and with enough flat land to cultivate crops. Are they going to build the farm under the waterfall because that tiny space was the only noise security they had.

Preposterous idea.

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You dont. You grow crops where you always did, but you LIVE next to the waterfall. Its clearly a short walk away as shown in the movie and they walked the distance frequently for fishing. And yes, the home near waterfall will take effort and wont be as confortable, but you wont have to panic every time someone makes a noise.

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But the waterfall only gives noise cover directly under it, so you would have to live wet and cold for the rest of your days just to be able to talk freely. So when you build a new house you would make a ton of noise doing that.

Then you would have to travel all the way to the farm to get crops, why do that when you have a home and farm right there already built.

Fingers crossed this never happens because with that decision making you would be dead day one.

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It gives noise close to it, relative to the noise of the waterfall. Same as the river covering some of the noise shown in an earlier scene. If you ever been to a waterfall in real life - they are VERY noisy. even from some distance.

Its not just being able to talk. Its not being afraid of any sound ever. They got afraid when anything would make even a tiny sound, something they could completely ignore near the waterfall. Furthermore, it would be a great way to hide the baby noises. The benefits of security simply outweighs the downsides in this case.

You dont take crops every day, you know. Even if they are working by hand it would still only be done in certain periods and the travel time does not seem significant issue given how quickly they get from waterfall to home.

No, actually, if this does happen and by some magic the army fails to kill critters that cant even pierce a pickup truck hiding in a place where the sole advantage these things have over you would be a great decision.

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So are they going to live in a cardboard box? Or find loads of house building timber, bricks and start constructing a house. Hammering nails in. The waterfall is not going to cover that noise, and carrying loads of timber around the area. Plus the waterfall area wasnt flat enough, kinda rocky.

SO you suggest they build a shitty little shack and carry loads of wood around to do it then make a ton of noise just so they can whisper a little louder or just stay in their nice farm house right next to the crops and everything they need. They would have to carry everything they have to the waterfall or leave it back at the farm. Tools? just leave them. cooking utensils. too noisy leave them. They would pretty much leave everything they own and have at the farm.

You havnt really thought this through have you.

And I have been to a waterfall, this was a shitty waterfall https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04dPR2hAGKQ&ab_channel=Mr.Incredible

Tiny. This wouldnt give you sound cover for much distance in real life. a direct frontal circumference and thats it, so they would have to build directly under it.

I live near this one and it a giant compared to that trickle in the film and once you get out of direct view or on the top the volume lowers drastically. Even a 100 metres and further away shouting would be audible as any shouting would. There is no amazing sound cover for a radius around. Movie magic again, i bet if you shouted under that "waterfall" you would still hear it around the area

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>So are they going to live in a cardboard box? Or find loads of house building timber, bricks and start constructing a house. Hammering nails in. The waterfall is not going to cover that noise, and carrying loads of timber around the area. Plus the waterfall area wasnt flat enough, kinda rocky.

They were clearly going to towns for supplies. They could obtain construction material from there. Yes, it will take effort.
And yes, hammering sounds would definitelly be covered by waterfall noise. You are underestimating how loud waterfalls are.

>SO you suggest they build a shitty little shack and carry loads of wood around to do it then make a ton of noise just so they can whisper a little louder or just stay in their nice farm house right next to the crops and everything they need. They would have to carry everything they have to the waterfall or leave it back at the farm. Tools? just leave them. cooking utensils. too noisy leave them. They would pretty much leave everything they own and have at the farm.

If they lived near waterfall they could make as much noise as they would be able with their mouths as was clearly illustrated by the movie. Tools and cooking utensils could ONLY be used near the waterfall, since it would be too noise in the farmhouse. They would carry everything because only by carrying it to waterfall would it become accessible to use.

>You havnt really thought this through have you.

I have. I am one of those crazy people that actually have plans of "What would i do if zombie apocalypse". In this case its aliens that detect you by sound, so the first thing you do is mask your sound by a loud natural sound. They had one nearby - a waterfall.


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Medical supplies and tins of food are a lot smaller than supplies to build a whole house with.

So are they going to drag all the wood and bricks to the waterfall? And were do you suggest they get all this timber from, enough for a whole house? Hence why I said shitty little shack.

They have a whole farm compound and you suggest they up and leave to find all this tmber, ddrag it to the waterfall and start building? ha haaaa you are deranged.

>If they lived near waterfall they could make as much noise as they would be able with their mouths as was clearly illustrated by the movie.

Directly under the waterfall. Not near, directly under.

In real life that waterfall would not cover their voices shouting under it, its tiny. I delivered video evidence of the size, its literally 3 trickles. Maybe you should check it.

Even in film physics world they wouldn't have the sound coverage in a worthy spot enough to start building a house on, they would not be covered. And you know whats in front of waterfalls? WATER. And if you saw the land around it, it was all rocks, stones and forest. So your silly little plan would be the death of them all. Theres no where to build a stupid little shack and certainly not where a movie sound shield would protect them.

>I have.

Yeh not very well.

Look, they have a compound to live in.

And you suggest they take all their shit, then take a ton of timber enough to build a house and then start building a house making a ton of noise just so they can be near a waterfall where they can shout directly under. But in the end they just downgraded their home massively and risk death most certainly with this massive undertaking they just do not need anyway.

>mask your sound by a loud natural sound. They had one nearby - a waterfal

Nah not near. DIRECTLY UNDER. in front is wet land, rocks, trees. And very low sound cover and the more you step away from the dead front and centre the less that sound cover becomes. Its not Niagra falls.

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>They have a whole farm compound and you suggest they up and leave to find all this tmber, ddrag it to the waterfall and start building? ha haaaa you are deranged.

Given that its a question of life of death whenever you make a sound - yes its absolutely worth the effort.

>And you know whats in front of waterfalls? WATER.

You mean drinking supply. You know theres a reasons towns would sprout around rivers.

>Look, they have a compound to live in.

Compound they did not enforce in any way other than making a death-trap room wallpapered with newspapers.

>they just do not need anyway.

Have you missed the part where fucking aliens kill you if you make a sound?

>Its not Niagra falls.

yes, Niagra falls are deafening.

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So if you have thought it through that much why dont you go ahead and explain how this whole process would work?

Wood and timbre suitable for building a home, where would it come from, how much would it take, how many journeys by foot would they carry these planks? Then dont forget about a slate roof. You ever tried to carry a pack of slates? A pack wont cover a roof.

How many trips with their belongings? some things will have to be left like beds, stoves anything they cannot carry. You think they can get away with lighting fires and cooking fireside every day? you are aware of smoke coming from fires?

How much noise you think they can get away near the 3 trickle waterfall with the building of a whole house with hammer and nails and how many days do you think it would take building while sleeping rough in the open or taking more time to travel to sleep in shelter.

>>And you know whats in front of waterfalls? WATER.

Water is not a good place to build a home on. And directly in front of the waterfall is the best noise cover. Move more and more to the sides the less noise cover they have where its adequate flat firm ground for a building area.

>Have you missed the part where fucking aliens kill you if you make a sound?

So you idea is to make more noise and travelling carrying all the materials from allover the area to build a whole house then start hammering away.

>yes, Niagra falls are deafening.

3 trickles only gives cover directly under it.

Your proposition is magically finding all of this suitable building material very close and making god knows how many journeys carrying large planks of wood and heavy slate packs they somehow found so close to the building area. Then take days or weeks building a whole house without making a sound with the slightest of cover noise a few hundred metres away in a suitable building location, then downgrading their whole life just so they can shout directly under 3 trickles of water.

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>So if you have thought it through that much why dont you go ahead and explain how this whole process would work?

Dude, i have built houses before, in fact im in the middle of helping my father build one right now. They made trips to towns for food, they can make trips for construction material. And you dont carry it by foot, you get a manual cart and ride it down.

You do realize that smoke is irrelevant here and in fact in the movie they light fires to communicate with neighboars. The aliens care about sound, not smell.

>how many days do you think it would take building while sleeping rough in the open or taking more time to travel to sleep in shelter.

Depending on what they are building - months. The trips to waterfall for fishing were routine, meaning they could make that trip to construction site easily.

>So you idea is to make more noise and travelling carrying all the materials from allover the area to build a whole house then start hammering away.

My idea is to make your home in an area that makes you immunte to detection of creatures that will kill you.

>Your proposition is magically finding all of this suitable building material very close and making god knows how many journeys carrying large planks of wood and heavy slate packs they somehow found so close to the building area.

You ever been to a depo shop? All of that in one place in any larger town around.

>just so they can shout directly under 3 trickles of water.

or, you know, dont have half the family die when a baby cries.

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>Dude, i have built houses before, in fact im in the middle of helping my father build one right now.

Silently? in the middle of a wet, muddy forest with rocks all around? Or was it in perfect conditions, picking the perfect area of flat, dry ground and making as much noise as you like?

Having built houses before you must know you cannot do it silently.

>They made trips to towns for food, they can make trips for construction material.

A few tin cans are a lot different to hauling a load of lumber around, enough to build a house with.

>you get a manual cart and ride it down.

Down where? like a hill? it could be anywhere, miles, many trips, more noise. Through a forest lol, a muddy, wet forest.

So now they have to find a cart big enough to carry lots of lumber around on top of finding all the building materials enough to build a whole house.

If think we have your answer, Why didn't they just build a house next to the waterfall?

Because they couldn't find the materials to do it. The town did not have a lumber yard. Done.

>meaning they could make that trip to construction site easily.

Wheres the lumber yard? Where is the farm, where is the waterfall?

You dont even have distances, for all we know it could be a few hours walking to the waterfall from the house and the town was in the opposite direction.

>My idea is to make your home in an area that makes you immunte to detection of creatures that will kill you.

The whole area would make you immune? Again, they had to get right under the waterfall before they could make any noise. Its like logic has gone out of the window with you and forgotten how sound works. They cannot build a house directly under a waterfall. close would not be good enough, the sound is not loud enough to cover them. Just think for a second how sound works. In front is wet land, rocks, trees. And very low sound cover and the more you step away from the dead front and centre the less that sound cover becomes.




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>Silently? in the middle of a wet, muddy forest with rocks all around? Or was it in perfect conditions, picking the perfect area of flat, dry ground and making as much noise as you like?

>Having built houses before you must know you cannot do it silently.

Somewhere in the middle between the two extremes you position.

>A few tin cans are a lot different to hauling a load of lumber around, enough to build a house with.

Maybe if they spent less time glueing newspaper to the walls....

>Down where? like a hill? it could be anywhere, miles, many trips, more noise. Through a forest lol, a muddy, wet forest.

they literally built their own sand roads in the movie. they had plenty of time for manual labour.

>Wheres the lumber yard? Where is the farm, where is the waterfall?

The director fails to show ups any of this. One must assume its typical rural area.

>The whole area would make you immune? Again, they had to get right under the waterfall before they could make any noise. Its like logic has gone out of the window with you and forgotten how sound works. They cannot build a house directly under a waterfall. close would not be good enough, the sound is not loud enough to cover them. Just think for a second how sound works. In front is wet land, rocks, trees. And very low sound cover and the more you step away from the dead front and centre the less that sound cover becomes.

They clearly display that normal level of noise near a river and even high level of noise near the waterfall is immune area. Yes, whole area. They made plenty of noise before they got under the waterfall.



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>Or was it in perfect conditions, picking the perfect area of flat, dry ground and making as much noise as you like?

In a wet muddy forest with a river and waterfall nearby? Im beginning to suspect you didnt actually watch the film. That forest did not look dry or flat. All trees, wet, grass, mud and rocks.

Your proposal was build a house directly in front so it had noise cover. Impossible to find a flat and dry space there. Maybe watch the film instead of dazing out into a stoner coma.

>Maybe if they spent less time glueing newspaper to the walls....

You are comparing glueing newspaper inside to a massive months long haul of finding a lumber yard with enough wood and roofing to build a whole house, tools and a cart big enough to carry it for multiple trips. Carrying it miles each trip, then push its wheels through a forest over wet, muddy, rocky ground with barely any paths.

Then after all of that build a house directly in front of a waterfall so you have noise cover. Basically in the stream on rocks.

>they literally built their own sand roads in the movie. they had plenty of time for manual labour.

At last, you pointed out something actually silly. But at least finding sand, maybe on the farm, carrying bags of sand and pouring it a lot quieter than your entire insane plan.

>The director fails to show ups any of this. One must assume its typical rural area.

So, no lumber yeard. We are done here then, you have your answer. They found a place with bags of sand. But not a place with enough lumber and roofing for a house or a cart or tools or it was just too far away. Those 4 factors. 1 is missing and there is no plan. Finding bags of sand is a lot more believable than what you propose.

>Yes, whole area. They made plenty of noise before they got under the waterfall.

They were completely silent until they got directly underneath it.

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>You ever been to a depo shop? All of that in one place in any larger town around.

You can confirm there was a depo shop close enough to the waterfall with enough lumber, tools, supplies and a cart large enough, with good enough wheels to trawl through a muddy forest?

You saw this in the movie?

>or, you know, dont have half the family die when a baby cries.

contardicts:

>Depending on what they are building - months

Months? they so they are going to carry a baby around on those 10 mile lumber trips now?

or you know, there is no depot close enough. Done.

there is your answer.

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>Months? they so they are going to carry a baby around on those 10 mile lumber trips now?


Did you even watch the movie? The woman got pregnant AFTER the creatures slaughtered most of the world. They had at least 9 months and who knows how much more (movie wasnt clear about the timeframe between attack and the mating). This should have been done before the baby was born.

>or you know, there is no depot close enough. Done.

Then move.

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Move where? They have a farm with crops. Its just as dangerous anywhere else.

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Yeah, the whole 'having a baby' and sound proofing the basement was not a great idea, not compared to basically making some kind of makeshift hut/refuge at the waterfall. I mean if anyone has had children they are noisy! The baby WILL cry, a lot. Was Emily Blunt going to live down in the basement for a year or more? I would have thought near a waterfall would be a little bit better.
Either way she should have essentially been quarantined in the basement before the due date, my wife was 2 weeks early with both our children. You can also keep a baby fairly quiet by putting them on the breast, you can imagine my disappointment that Em didn't get her paps out once in this film...

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One thing I noted that was one of your beefs incorrectly mentioned...at the dinner I noticed they did not have plates nor silverware.

The barefoot part was illogical to me too. The pictures on the wall too. Not to mention the IDIOCY of her getting pregnant. The second part was Day 427, the first Day 89, so she clearly got preggers after the death of the youngest kid. Safe sex mandatory in that scenario.

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I can understand why these people would stay where they were. Traveling any distance is risky. You can probably find a building somewhere with a basement that's effectively already soundproof - but you might be too far from a field to grow crops, a barn to raise quiet little creatures like rabbits, and a stream to catch fish with traps (also a very quiet process). Their options were limited. Plus they obviously had a solar electric setup there which gave them electricity. Definite plus in that world.

Yeah they should've taken down the pictures and anything else that could fall to the floor and make noise. You'd definitely do a better job of proofing your home against accidental loud crashes. The whole barefoot thing seemed kinda silly. Sneakers work better and they protect your feet outdoors.

That noisemaker idea wouldn't be as effective as you think though. These creatures according to the movie's creator are sentient. They have no technology but they're very smart. The only reason knocking over the lamp didn't draw them to the house is they got the animals they assumed made the noise. Once drawn by something, they will scour the area looking for you. And they would figure out after the first couple of times that a rattling can sound = no food. In other words it would work once or twice and then they'd start ignoring it. These things are hunters. They're used to prey hiding, and having to be stalked and flushed out.

Never mind WHY she got pregnant. I want to know HOW. That is some really, really quiet sex. :)

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I see what you say about the noisemakers, but if that was the case, then why not use loudspeakers? As they obviously had electricity, it would be a relatively simple task setting up a bunch of speakers all over the place and change the sounds they play.

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Same issue. Once there's been a lot of noise in the area they know something is around. They'll stop looking eventually, all predators give up after a while, but these guys seem pretty tenacious. And it has to be quiet for a time before they'll decide you're probably not around anymore. Making a lot of noise over there may draw them away if they're about to find you - but they'll be back. It will probably start to dawn on them eventually that these loud distractions leading them to nothing may in fact be happening BECAUSE they were about to find you. And that would be bad! They don't need to understand technology, how you're making the sounds happen. Just causality. The why of it. Enough repetitions and even the slow learners will get the picture (so to speak). If Metallica suddenly starts playing outside, they must be getting warm.

What you want of course is those loudspeakers to emit piercing, ear splitting high pitched noise that will hurt them. Perhaps with a high enough amplification the sound itself could actually rupture their hearing organs. You could walk right up to them, writhing in pain on the ground, and finish them off. They wouldn't even know you were there.

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Sure, but for that you'd first have to know about the effect this sound has on the creatures, and that doesn't happen until the end of the movie.

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Details! :)

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There were so many things in this movie that just didn't make sense. I thought the same thing about the sand they put down to walk in when they went outside. Do you really need sand? Do sneakers really make that much noise when you walk down the sidewalk or on plain dirt? And where does he get this constant supply of sand? I've never even seen big bags of sand at my local Home Depot.

Who planted all of those fields of corn without making any sound? What was wrong with the older boy at the beginning of the film that she needed to find prescription medicine? I don't think this was explained, although I suppose it wasn't really important. Does no one ever have to cough or sneeze when they are outside? In the end, we learn there are only 3 of these Aliens for- how large an area? So how is it that whenever someone does accidentally make a sound one of them just happens to be nearby, ready to pounce? And if there are only three, how was no one able to lure them into being trapped by the time this movie starts?

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Hear, hear!

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You make some good points - the can idea seems like a very obvious thing to do. However, I enjoyed the atmosphere and tension of the movie enough to where my disbelief was properly suspended.

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For the guys first movie as a director and all that, it was good. So I cut them some slack there.

But yeah for all the hype around it and people praising it. When you really break it down, it’s stupid.

1. They would not have things hanging on the wall correct.

2. They sure as shit would have carpeted everything.

3. Somehow there is a random nail, that gets caught and pulled up and then stepped on? Piss off. That is not happening at all. One there was no reason for that nail to be there. 2 there was a clear path marked so obviously they had checked the stairs. A nail would not be left there at all. 3 finally a nail bent like that is going to take a bit of effort to bend back up.

4. 89 days in and the 4 year old keeps playing with a toy making noise? No. As soon as it made noise he’s ditching that thing since it was obviously drilled into their heads noise equals death.

5. Why did they leave the batteries there? I imagine those would be a resource they need. So why take them out then leave them sitting there? They would most definitely have kept those and pocketed them. Rather than leave them there so the 4 year old can put them back in the toy.

6. Your telling me they over ran America in less than 89 days? That nothing can kill them? Really? I mean we see that when their heads open up they can be killed. So what a tank round to the face won’t kill them? But a shot gun blast will? That the military didn’t realise how they can use shitload of noise to confuse the shit out of these guys so their troops are hidden?

7. With that much power how did that work? Like you need a generator for that and those aren’t quiet.

There were more but can’t remeber them all now. I did like the film but there are a lot of holes when you break it down. It would make a really good tv series where they could explore it more in depth. Because there were a lot of questions raised in the movie.

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With regards to 6th, if they cant differentiate soundwaves (waterfall masking speech) then you could just have a speaker playing waterfall sound on full volume and essentially become invisible to them as an army.

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The nail thing was the worst offender out of them all, LOL.
Who the fuck puts a nail through the middle of a step with a sharp end pointing up? That nail wasn't even connecting any boards together, Jesus H. Christ.
All the nails on each step are always on the sides and facing down connecting the stairs together.

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8. You don't sink into grain like it's water.

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You sorta do.

I'm not excusing the movie, but each year there are always deaths from people who 'drown' in grain elevators. It's a thing...

More technically, it's known as grain entrapment according to Wikipedia.

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Lol I agree with all you guys. I didn't actually like the movie at all it just didn't make much sense to me. It's a shame as its a nice idea they had but just badly thought out. Oh well, still waiting for the next horror film to really make me jump and want to curl up. A girl can dream lol xx

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So much agree what you say. I think it was very average movie and not that good.

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