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Is it really bad?

posted 5 years ago by ccr1633 (1411)
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I despise most modern films and think they're generally lacking in intelligent dialog and a good story. It is thus with some hope that I heard about this noir-type film. Could it be a high quality outlier like "Body Heat" was back in the early 80s, for example? Not having seen it, but sort of wanting to, I'm wondering if film noir aficionados think this film deserves the panning it's getting, or if it's really much better than that and flying over the heads of increasingly stupid, impatient audiences. I'm also not a fan of Matthew McConaughey, who I consider hammy and fake sounding in his all-knowingness southern vibe. This also has given me pause in giving this film a shot.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

I'd almost recommend seeing it because it's really something that you need to judge for yourself. I know I didn't like it. It takes a turn a little over halfway through and it's no longer the film you thought you were getting. Can't say more without giving anything away but for me it just didn't work. When it was over I felt like I watched a way too long episode of Black Mirror.

Quick aside, at 54 Diane Lane still looks amazing!

[–] snepts (11123) 5 years ago

I've always loved Diane Lane. (Big surprise, right?) I'm a little older than she but only by maybe 6 years, and wow to be able to escort a woman like her around town would be such a treat.
Then again, I replied to the Olivia Wilde thread and people seem to think J Sudeikas is a real dud for her, so me 'n' DL would be even more of a howler. Oh well. Maybe in my next life I'll be good looking.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Then again, I replied to the Olivia Wilde thread and people seem to think J Sudeikas is a real dud for her, so me 'n' DL would be even more of a howler. Oh well. Maybe in my next life I'll be good looking.

Do you think Jason Sudeikas gives a rats ass that a bunch of nobodies on a message board thinks he's not good enough for Olivia Wilde? Hell no, because he's going home to Olivia f'n Wilde at night. Sure there are other guys better looking but he made her laugh and won her over. There are millions of Diane Lane-level women in their 50s out there's who have been screwed over by good looking guys and just want someone decent that can make them laugh and be there when they need them. I say keep looking for your Diane Lane dude, and take a lesson from Sudeikas and ignore the haters.

[–] snepts (11123) 5 years ago

Haha - that's funny.
Women also have their bars men have to crawl over. Money, looks, humor. It's all complicated. Age appropriate opportunity is a big obstacle. Older gals know what they want so I'm likely not what they are looking for, but hey, I have my own standards too ! And DL is a pretty high bar !!

[–] DarthRoger (867) 5 years ago

I don't know. The RT critics score is 21% and that vibes with the only slightly better audience score of 29%.
That's not good. It's a shame too, because I like McConaughey and Hathaway. They were good in INTERSTELLAR but this movie appears to be a bomb.

[–] Kazak (2007) 5 years ago

It's bad. Someone should've recognized this was a stinker and pulled the plug early on. How this made it all the way through production is beyond me...

[–] stratcat45 (114) 5 years ago

I wouldn't recommend anyone paying to see it (like I did). I didn't like it....but the more I think about it, I'm thinking now knowing what I do, it could be worth an unpaid rewatch (Netflix) just to see it already knowing the twist.

[–] agentalbert (2299) 5 years ago

I liked it. I went in not knowing anything about it, and didn't mind the blending of genre's. But I know most audiences hate that and won't accept something not being what they went in thinking it was.

My biggest beef with the movie is Diane Lane and Anne Hathaway having fully clothed sex scenes.

[–] Tyler1986 (235) 5 years ago

I didn't watch the trailer so I had no expectations going into it. Obviously the twist isn't hard to figure out and the movie would have been fine if you just removed that entire part, imo. But the acting was pretty good, this deserves a higher rating than it has.

Buuuut, wcyd?

[–] Stratego (29178) 5 years ago

"But I know most audiences hate that and won't accept something not being what they went in thinking it was."

Don't be so freaking pretentious. I certainly don't mind a hybrid movie or a good twist, but this one was awful.

[–] Stratego (29178) 5 years ago

Avoid.

[–] ccr1633 (1411) 5 years ago

Lol. I'll instead spend my time playing a dusty old original version of Strageo that I recently exhumed from my mom's cellar. Cool game. I wish the original would be reproduced like some other older board games have been recently.

[–] Stratego (29178) 5 years ago

Still popular over here in The Netherlands. I bought the travel edition a couple of years back.👍

[–] ccr1633 (1411) 5 years ago

The politicians in my home country USA would be well served to play Stratego. Yesterday, for example, the Democratic Party sent a Spy named Robert Mueller in search of the Republican's Marshal, Donald Trump. They instead found a bomb, even knowing the bomb's location. Proficiency at Stratego would've instilled in them a better survival instinct and instructed them to send a Miner instead.

* For the record I am not a blind loyalist to either of our worthless two major political parties

[–] Stratego (29178) 5 years ago

I think that's what I've been doing wrong as well when I play Stratego!😆

That whole Mueller report turned out to be a waste of time and money. The entire political establishment clearly sucks. But let's not get too political outside the political boards!

[–] snepts (11123) 5 years ago

I will pitch in and say the US system is definitely broken. I'm an ardent liberal Democrat, but the "parties" and cultures have become so polarized that we have mindless cheerleaders on both sides (esp. on the right ! Hit !). I realize a lot hasn't improved with some Dem presidencies, but things always seem to get worse with a pub leader. So I'd rather vote straight Dem than let those other guys grease the wheels and rails for a pro-business agenda that benefits the upper echelon versus the working class, while they claim to be helping the working class.

[–] Stratego (29178) 5 years ago

Like I said, let's not get too political outside the political boards.

[–] snepts (11123) 5 years ago

Well, you dipped your toes in that water, and I tried to have a neutral take (but with a jab) so ...
We are human beings and these are troubled times.