MovieChat Forums > Terminator: Dark Fate (2019) Discussion > Tim Miller says he won't work with Camer...

Tim Miller says he won't work with Cameron again, getting over the "trauma" of Dark Fate


According to Miller, he'll never work with Cameron again because he lost creative control over DF. Says he's "processing" the film's failure and that the whole thing has been a traumatic experience, and he "feels horrible" about Skydance losing money on the film.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/why-terminator-dark-fate-director-wont-work-james-cameron-again-1257322

reply

Amazing that they continue to be in denial concerning the real reasons the movie flopped.

reply

Yeah, it's the Cameron who's the problem here, if not for him mr. most unexceptional director ever would probably make a masterpiece out of it.

reply

First I thought it, then I saw you said it!

reply

lol, these hacks are still blaming "franchise fatigue".

reply

Hi, I'm the director Tim Miller and I'm going to point my finger at everybody else but me!

reply

"The things they seemed to hate the most about the movie, were things I can't control. I can't control you didn't like Genysis or you felt betrayed by Terminator 4. I can't help that," said Miller.

lol, why did he blatantly copy lots of stuff from genisys then?!

reply

The statement about Salvation is hilariously ironic.

Salvation largely remained true to the original vision for the story and continued what had been established in T1-T3. In his film, however, he killed John Connor.

Which one is the true betrayal?

reply

betrayed maybe because salvation didn't even try to match the esthetics cameron had established in his future war scenes (blue light etc.). with its washed out brown tones it didn't feel like it was part of the same film universe.

reply

I agree that most of the movie had more in common with Mad Max than it did with Cameron's vision, which does suck. Though it's worth mentioning that it comes a little closer to what we see in T1/T2 when they infiltrate the Skynet base.

Regardless, it's still hilarious to hear Miller talking about a Terminator film being a betrayal when his film is, on multiple levels, the greatest betrayal of them all.

reply

He needs to call Elizabeth Banks and have a Pity Party. Both are in serious denial.

reply

And then they can take turns changing each others tampons

reply

their planned meet up for beers is going to be fun:

'it was YOU who caused it to bomb!'
'no it was YOU! YOU killed my fuckin' franchise!!'
'I TOLD YOU to let me have final cut you SOB!!'
'why the FUCK didn't you cut those fuckin dumb SJW lines out that I TOLD you to!!'
'well at least I didn't go utube saying how fantastic GENISYS was you lying fuckin ahole!!'
'OH and you just HAD to set it all in Mexico and make Arnold a house husband didn't you! you woke bastard!'
'oh yeh?! and whose idea was it to kill off John Fuckin Conner?! in the FUCKIN OPENING SCENE!'

reply

I can at least say this:

As someone who just rewatched Genisys last might to make sure I wasn't too hard on the movie the first time around, it is anything but fantastic. If Cameron said that, he was lying his ass off and he knew it.

reply

That's why I had zero interest in Cameron's claims about Dark Fate. He said the exact same things about Genisys 4 years ago, he was full of crap, and he knew it.

reply

Cameron's street cred really is in decline these days.

Between devoting the final years of his directorial career to Avatar, endorsing Genisys, and now foisting the shitfest that is Dark Fate upon us, the dude's reputation has really taken a hit. The only thing I can give him credit for is Alita.

reply

And the blame game begins...

reply