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I thought it was amazing..my review

posted 4 years ago by movielover1990 (127)
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First off idk why people complaining about the opening ..yes it changed things but with all the sequels we gotten about John might as way throw in a new idea.

The fact that it’s (some spoilers) not skynet now it’s a new future and new company (legion)means it can be a whole new possibility with what the new terminators can do(forming a gun or a shirt out of his liquid metal)

Kyle came from a future where it was skynet , grace is from a new alternate timeline future that Sarah made from destroying skynet.
Regardless the humans create machines and the earths gets nuked. That doesn’t change.

I’m a huge fan of part 1 and 2 and thought this was a amazing entry into that trilogy. Was it needed? NO, was it pointless? MAYBE but I’m glad we got a movie where I know it’s possible that a actual good terminator movie can be made after part 2.
The opening scene with (spoilers) young (t2) Sarah and John looked amazing that I thought James Cameron gave tim Miller a deleted scene he never released.
The only thing I’m not sure I liked was the explanation as to the new t101..he got sent back and did his mission.so I would assume after it does it’s mission it should terminate itself no? (Spoilers) after t101 kills John it decides to be more human because it wants to serve more of a purpose then being a machine? Uhh ok? But I mean he did say in t2, it can learn but they did put a pause on that so it wouldn’t do to much thinking which is why Sarah and John reset his chip so he can learn but it’s not the same model from part 2 correct so it shouldn’t have learned and care so much. But I mean I guess I’ll accept it.i saw it in IMAX which was amazing I’m going to see it again but now In 4DX.
The movie did remind me of the Sarah Connor chronicles that’s for sure.

[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

To me, franchise-wise, Terminator is identical to Alien, in that you have an original entry touted as a classic, a sequel that is better... and then a whole string of so-so to BAD movies. BUT, Alien committed the cardinal sin of offing Newt and Hicks in the third Alien movie, when Ripley could've had a family once again, which is unforgivable. And now Terminator has offed John Connor, also as a child, which is unforgivable as well. The only difference is the extra Terminator movies in-between. But now I consider only the first two entries in the Alien and Terminator franchises to be canon, and all subsequent movies, especially now after their offences, to be bad fanfiction.

[–] bohemianroxie (2471) 4 years ago

Agreed on all points..^

[–] MrFilmJunkie (857) 4 years ago

there's no explanation for the t-800 to be in the movie other than that they had to shoehorn arnold into the story and make him a good guy, because that's what "fans" supposedly want to see in a terminator movie.
it doesn't make sense for many reasons: the skynet future was averted, so no terminators can be sent back from a future that doesn't happen. and if, then it would be his new mission to ensure the skynet future after killing john. also, why would they send an old model to terminate john? skynet would have send another t-1000.
after a terminator has completed his mission, he would probably just go into "stand by" mode or something.

[–] maul (1530) 4 years ago

Who says more Terminators were sent after the original 2 were? I'm assuming they were all sent at the same time, just to different years. By your reasoning the original T-800 and T-1000 couldn't have been sent either, because in the future, the future was changed. Skynet wouldn't have existed to send them back either.

[–] MrFilmJunkie (857) 4 years ago

that's (what i call) the "fool me once" rule in screenwriting. the audience has to willingly suspend disbelief one time, here when it comes to the grandfather paradox, otherwise time travel fiction wouldn't be possible. but anything that goes beyond will make the movie fall apart, as the audience doesn't want to be fooled twice etc.
so the narrative should go like this: once a certain future has been averted due to events in the present, this future can't further affect the present, but it doesn't retroactively change the past (if it did, john wouldn't even exist, because kyle reese would never be sent back and impregnate sarah etc.)

i was thinking that the t-800 in dark fate was sent earlier, but not sure if that was mentioned in the movie. it just rushed over those critical parts without even trying to explain things.

[–] bozo_500 (12114) 4 years ago

I guess Skynet sent terminators to 1984, 1995, and 1998 (plus 2003 & 1973 creating alternate realities)