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This isn’t Spider-Man... it’s Iron Man Jnr


Spider-Man is fighting villains created by Tony Stark, using costumes and technology created by Tony Stark, with Tony Stark’s supporting cast, while trying to honor the memory of Uncle Ben... I mean, Tony Stark.

The reason why “Into The Spiderverse” (and even “Venom”) was so fun was because they weren’t so indebted to a completely different superhero.

Shoe-horning Iron Man thoroughly into Spider-Man’s story really diminishes the character and strips him of his own identity.

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Venom was total crap. Come on... troll better.

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I already explained to you that a difference of opinion isn’t trolling.

Maybe that post went over your head...

Venom was total crap


It made a huge profit at the box office so obviously the majority liked it. I thought you were proudly part of the majority?

LOL

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Stark was a father figure that guided him , dont see the issue with that .

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Have you ever read the comics or seen the previous films? Spider-Man didn’t have a father figure to guide him. He had a kind old lady and the memory of his uncle.

You don’t have an issue with Uncle Ben being replaced with Iron Man?

LOOOOL

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No not really , have no issue with this spiderman branching out on a different path than the comics and the previous movies , why does it make you upset ?

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JFC, dude... engage your brain.

Because Uncle Ben gave the most iconic superhero directive of ALL-TIME to Spider-Man: “with great power comes great responsibility”. Uncle Ben represented what happened to ordinary people if a superhero overlooked their duty, even for a moment.

These films replace that sentiment with jokes from a billionaire superhero who gives Peter costumes and high-tech gadgets and makes him an Avenger.

And you ... enjoy this?

LOLOLOLOL

You’re probably hoping that Aunt May dies and Captain Marvel adopts Peter...

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I enjoyed homecoming and this movie alot yes , dont be so sensitive.

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He said that last Spider-man movies had crappy storytelling. You can or can not agree with that statement, but in any case, it has no relation with being offended or sensitive. His comment was not about morality, but about quality of storytelling.

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And that all depends on being true to the comics? No it doesnt therefore he is being sensitive

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Bro, you need to learn to accept that not everyone is as emotional as you on this forum.

Like, you’ve already replied to this topic half-a-dozen times to argue with people...

LOLOL

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thats why im going to kill you last


Reported for making death threats.

Also, none of my replies are an “attack” on anybody. What a bizarre statement...

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That wasn't a death threat, it was a quote from a movie, and seeing as you probably don't watch movies, this ones lost on you.

Stop whining

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The forum moderators deleted it because it was a death threat, dude.

If a PG13 Spider-Man movie gets you so emotionally worked up that you are threatening to kill strangers on the internet... perhaps Marvel films are a little too mature and intense for you.

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Im not the one that starts threads crying because a movie doesnt follow the comics, stop whining.

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I’m not the one threatening to murder posters on this board, dude. You are.

Maybe take some time off the internet and get your emotions under control...

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Uncle Ben never actually said those words in the comics.

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Exactly this. It’s a third reboot to get the character in the MCU and show a different take on the character that audiences haven’t seen in the previous movies.

It’s okay for them to downplay the Uncle Ben stuff in these new movies. He was prominently featured in the Raimi trilogy. Then The Amazing Spider-Man did the Uncle Ben story again and we were all bored by it.

We know Uncle Ben existed in these new movies, we’ve seen the initials on the suitcase in Far From Home. Uncle Ben’s Death obviously still inspired Peter to become a superhero and still does, we just don’t see it because it would be derivative.







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Couldn't of put it better myself, the OP would be moaning if Uncle Ben was in this movie " Marvel are so unoriginal, they are copying the comics and the other movies, cant they come up with something original" they have, by not copying the story arcs we have seen before.

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thats the point we've seen that so many times before and i'm not interested in seeing the same sh*t again.. this is a spiderman that exists in a world where there are other heroes unlike the old movies and tony stark a tech genius who is also a billionaire and one of the most powerful men in the world will definately have influence on most of his colleague superheroes. not only does he provide for spideraman he also creates stuffs for the other avengers as well and even built the avengers facility for them... its not realistic that peter a poor high school kid will be working with tony stark and still be poor... keep on complaining while i keep on enjoying these movies.. its your loss

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not only does he provide for spideraman he also creates stuffs for the other avengers as well


My loss, indeed...

LOLOLOL

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Stop whining

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you're just a silly troll & no one should listen to a word you say. in fact, i'm probably going to block you so i don't have to see your nonsense posts going forward.

but you have lurched onto at least the glimmer of a proper point here, in that it is funny that we haven't had a mention of uncle ben after two full films. it doesn't really bother me, and i think i know why they did it, but it's not unreasonable to ask why this hasn't come up.

i think the answer is a simple one: it was established right from his first appearance that spidey was brought into the avengers orbit by stark, & that stark was a mentor, a reluctant mentor but a mentor nonetheless.

and in the economy of story-telling that these films require, that doesn't leave room for uncle ben in the mcu world. for the most part, the mcu films are very efficient at setting up their characters & their conflicts, & bringing uncle ben into a film where stark fills the mentor/father figure role would be clutter that they probably feel would distract more than add.

add to that the fact that we've already seen the spider-man origin twice in film. is it needed again? definitely not. i think it's just assumed that uncle ben is gone, & that there was a tragic event probably not too different from the events we know from the comics.

having a spider-man as part of the mcu mostly means gains (we get to see him with the avengers, nick fury gets to make fun of him, happy gets to flirt with marisa tomei) but it also means there have to be sacrifices, & uncle ben is indeed that sacrifice, limiting his impact on the mcu to the appearance of one suitcase with his initials (i think?).

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Bro, I read the first sentence and then stopped because ... why should I keep reading?

Block away. Thanks for taking the time to reply though!

LOL!!!!

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So you're not interested in discussing? So you're just trolling then

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Yep. Keeps me from enjoying these movies which are otherwise pretty great. That's why I really hope Sony stops sharing the rights so all this MCU baggage can be dropped.

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So you thibk there great but dont enjoy them due to them not being absolutely true to the comics ? Ok

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Spider-Man really shouldn’t be this entangled in the MCU.

He’s an iconic character. As “Into The Spiderverse” demonstrated, you can make a film that features multiple universes stuffed with different Spider-Man characters.

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I love Spidey showing up in the MCU. But the MCU should not play an integral role in his own films.

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I totally agree.....








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Spider-Man has been one of my favorite characters for nearly 30 years. Someday I hope to see another Spider-Man movie without Iron Man in it. Just let Spider-Man be awesome. Let him be his own character.

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The worst part is that Spiderman was more powerful and a better character all around than Iron man but Iron boy sucks.

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This is where we are in 2019.

Despite the fact that Spider-Man has a million times more great comic book stories than Iron Man, he’s a supporting character.

It’d be like Batman being a supporting character to Aquaman (which might happen considering how much money the Aquaman movie made).

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Stop whining

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I think what you’re forgetting is Spider-Man was brought into the MCU as a motivating force for Tony Stark. He was a defeated man after Infinity War and had much more to lose than gain. It was knowing that if there was even the slightest chance he could bring Peter back, he owed it to him to try. That’s the part you might be missing. It’s not about what Iron Man has done for Spider-Man, but what Peter did for Tony.

None of these MCU characters were meant to be self contained heroes. The individual movies set up the bigger picture of “The Avengers”. It worked so well because at the end of the Infinity Saga we cared so much for so many characters, and they cared about each other.

Going forward I expect they will use the remaining heroes to build up to another epic battle that the heroes and us as the audience will be equally invested in. I can see why that might not be your cup of tea, but it’s the Spider-Man we have for now, at least until the next reboot! ;)

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