MovieChat Forums > Love on Ice (2017) Discussion > YOI. Some solid evidence of plagiarism

EVERY artist in general uses reference. This does not mean they plagiarized. Kubo sensei has mentioned that her and her team went to the ACTUAL places to get the setting right.
Even if they didn't go to the places, artists will still use photos to reference settings and poses they have never seen before IRL.
If the YOI team have never seen the place, or a stripper dance, how can they get anything right without referencing.
They can't just pull a memory of a stripper pose out without ever seeing one. The people creating this could be married, you want them to tell their spouse "Hey, I'm going to a strip club for research"??
Also, most animes use real life places as settings, because they want it to feel as realistic as possible (slice-of-life genre), it's nothing new.

For the ice dances, some people can tell YOI never created them. YOI could have based their characters off of certain skaters. This isn't shocking if it's true. Real life figure skaters support YOI apparently.

As for the Twitter post, this, I do not have a comment for. I do hope it was a joke Kubo sensei was playing, because YOI is more than just bromance, and I highly doubt a homophobe would lead/create a project like this.
She probably got tried AF from people who don't understand the language and culture complaining to/bothering her. I remember in an interview she said she was surprised foreign fans needed confirmation about the kiss, when Japanese fans just KNEW.
I used to have homophobes as friends, and trust me, they would not make something like this even if you paid them a *beep* ton of money, they were that disgusted.

I have no idea why I need to explain such a simple concept. I actually feel regret checking back on this even though I'm through with this topic (I use IMDB on an occasion though, so I was curious, but clearly, this was a mistake.) Sadly, as someone who has many artist friends, I'll feel bad if you continued to live your life naïvely about this topic.

Good day, and goodbye.

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And stripper dance...do you know pole dance?
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/colombian-pole-dancer-marcela-betancourt-competes-during-news-photo/117998262?#colombian-pole-dancer-marcela-betancourt-competes-during-the-of-the-picture-id117998262

http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/yva-au-and-irene-ng-of-singapore-perform-in-the-doubles-news-photo/452707179?#yva-au-and-irene-ng-of-singapore-perform-in-the-doubles-international-picture-id452707179

http://www.gettyimages.fr/detail/photo-d'actualit%C3%A9/nataliia-tatarintseva-of-ukraine-performs-in-the-photo-dactualit%C3%A9/452615205?#nataliia-tatarintseva-of-ukraine-performs-in-the-womens-international-picture-id452615205

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Artists draw from real life. Animes have always referenced their sceneries from within Japan, but the moment they reference from a setting outside of japan, this type of shaming happens.

Now for the room, yes, Victor's living room is referenced, I can see that. Permission and credits are always nice to have, and this, I can't agree with more, but there was probably no ill intent. It was shown for only a few seconds, and if I were to give them the benefit of the doubt, then maybe they thought it was ok, and didn't realize the reactions it would get. This case happens all the time, and if they knew, then by all means, they probably wouldn't have done that. All in all, you can't expect him to have a Japanese styled room when he's not from Japan.

I've personally never cared about LOI being released. They can release it all they want, I just don't like how it's fueling stereotypes within an already corrupt sporting industry in this day and age. Yes, figure skating is very shamming in many ways.

Either way I'm not going to go through all the links, because if all you can do is half ass your reply by giving only links, then good day to you. You clearly don't have the decency to even give a proper reply. Also, I would be VERY worried if I knew much about pole dancing or stripping.

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Wow, you are really ignorant.

Tessa Jane Virtue is a Canadian ice dancer who competes with Scott Moir. Virtue and Moir are the 2010 Olympic champions, the 2014 Olympic silver medalists, the 2010 and 2012 World champions, the 2008 and 2012 Four Continents champions, the 2006 World Junior champions and six-time Canadian national champions (2008?2010, 2012-2014).

And the vids below show the similarity between 'YOI 12ed' and 'Virtue and Moir's new choreography from 2016'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzaLBTuwpto&feature=youtu.be

http://fast-uploader.com/download/%E6%A4%9C%E8%A8%BC01.mp4?fileId=7038536739766&key=

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I‘m an art student and an artist. I have taken several animation classes.

Yes, we use reference, but not in this way. Every teacher will tell you to create your own stuff based on your materials. Artists know how much labor one can put in an original work, therefore they respect others and won's steal. When we really need to use some materials, we try to get author's permission and give them credit.

There is only one special case. When a work is part of public domain and the author requires no attribution, you can use this work without attribution and permission. However, it's not YOI's case.


In Yoi's case, it's copy, it's plagiarism, and it's NEVER OK. Trust me, if YOI is an art student's final project, this person flunked.

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