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Not as a random drop as they claim?


I think they can control how the ball bounces. They probably have certain code program in to allow the ball bounce harder or softer on the pegs when they want a person to loose or win..

Or those aren't real balls once they are dropped in the tube,..

To me this show is screaming reall faked.

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I was thinking the same thing, it looks like the balls can move anywhere. I'm thinking they use some kind of magnets to position the ball wherever they please. The balls don't like they are moving randomly.

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That's how Pachinko machines are though. You never really know where it's going to land. It could go anywhere. It's not 100% random scientifically, it's obviously a reaction to various factors, but to the human eye it always looks like it's just bouncing random.

The amount of budget they would need to make CGI balls this perfectly realistic is insane.

Also brings to mind the Quiz Show Scandal, it's illegal for rig gameshows.

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> The amount of budget they would need to make CGI balls this perfectly realistic is insane.

Not really. I'm sure that "bouncing ball" algorithms have already been perfected a long time ago. I have a few apps on my phone that models real-world physics pretty darn well -- Angry Birds, for example.

That said, I do think those are real balls bouncing down the wall. It's probably cheaper and more fun, anyway, to have real balls bouncing around.

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I've played those sort of games myself. The bouncing effect isn't what I'm saying would be difficult to make. The actual ball itself though is clearly real. The balls in Angry Birds don't look like real balls. They look like video game balls.

Even in 2017 in major blockbuster productions CGI is easily detected if it's a center piece of the action. Even something like Jungle Book you can notice it's not real animals even though we're getting pretty close. The ball itself is completely indistinguishable from the one they hold in their hand. I don't think it's the same one that goes down, but one is already prepared to fall up at the top.

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This would get them into a lot of trouble. Like it really is a federal case.

It's random but other factors like where the ball is placed and where the money is effects the payouts. Most balls will land right under where they started within a few right or left. It's called a bell curve. Some math teachers have the same kind of pin board that sends 100s of balls down and in the end it will create a perfect curve with steep slopes on either side. I forget the percentages but most of the balls fall close to the middle.

They use Math PhDs and Physiologists to figure out what the average payout will be based on math and people's aversion, or lack of, to risk. It's all gambling. The show is gambling that they payout just enough money to keep the audience interested.

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They don't need to manipulate anything, since the red balls will have the same chance to wipe out the winnings of the green balls.

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Well it could be randomly controlled so technically they could deny that it's set. I mean we honestly don't really know what's going on in the background.

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Yes but they have to weight fixing the board vs getting caught and maybe going to prison. Much easier to fix the rules in a way that only as much money is paid out as is in the prize budget.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1950s_quiz_show_scandals#Aftermath

Interesting thing in reading this wiki page is that it just hit me that I think they have to have a quiz aspect to the show. If they just dropped balls down the board it could possibly be considered gambling or at minimum a sweepstakes of some sort. Which have their own set of rules.

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When it has to do with gaming and/or gambling, it would be a federal case.

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Sounds like a ghetto conspiracy theory.

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