The money


Where are these people getting that kind of money? They're on boats for months, they're putting all this time into this, where are they getting millions of dollars? And the ones who are out still have beautiful homes.

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I think you are confusing Sea Org members with Celebrity members

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I'm talking about the ones we've seen. The woman this week wasn't a celebrity. In fact, she was a 20 year old hippie when she joined. Where did she get all that money???

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She made it clear that she worked as an employee. Did you watch the episode???

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I watched the episode!!! And made millions of dollars?????????

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In general -- you are already somewhat rich or wealthy. Even better if you are connected to Hollywood in some way. Then they CoS invests in you. Meaning they find out what your talent is. Let's say some entrepreneur. They also provide the connections you need (also other CoS members) to succeed. Then when Make make real money that is when they hit you up for really huge donations. This is how people afford to move up the bridge. If you're poor and lazy - you are not for Scientology.

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"If you're poor and lazy - you are not for Scientology. " Ok, how about poor but industrious? Say someone works in a packing plant making 15 bucks an hour and puts in 50 hours a week of hard work. Could they become a scientologist?

"Loves turned to lust and bloods turned to dust in my heart"

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Poor AND lazy. Not poor or lazy.

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I wondered this as well, since the ex members clearly had nice homes and good lives. You also see some videos of current members carrying designer bags etc. From what I gather they find success for their members. Meaning if you need a job they find you one and make sure you do well. Maybe they help get you into college or get you a great job. They do this so you'll have more to give to the church. Leah said people stay in because they feel stuck since the church provided everything, even health care. There's a fear if they leave they will be out a job, friends, place to live etc. I guess in some they are lucky and able to pick themselves up after.

If people are young and poor they work for the church.

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Jeremky Blake and Theresa Duncan are the best example of the scenario I just pointed out. They were artists and committed suicide because of Scientology.

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I had the same question. How does your average middle class person afford to be a member? Especially considering that it is required to buy the books, which sounds like it costs in the tens of thousands of dollars.

"Loves turned to lust and bloods turned to dust in my heart"

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You either have to have money to move up the bridge or you work for the church.

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So how do you explain the guy tonight Tom DeVogt saying he had no formal education, or skills when he left but he was a high ranking member? Then others that were part of Sea-Org, I don't understand what the difference is. And David Miscaviage's Dad was part of Sea-Org and kept in that internment camp in Hemet that was locked and barbed wired? What? How does that seem normal? But Travolta and Tom Cruise and other celebrities can walk free and i'm sure they're on the internet. I guess what it comes down to is that if you keep paying you go up the bridge to the higher levels but if you can't pay you have to earn your keep to move up? That's crazy. None of this makes sense. How can people be so gullible?

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It is shocking and disturbing that is certain. The fellow that was on tonight worked his way up. So my impression is if you work for the the Celebrity Centre - you get to attend classes and receive auditing for free. I've heard the pay is very low. Like minimum wage. The other choice is to be part of the Sea Org and then you're really screwed out at sea being controlled and abused.

Celebrities get the royal treatment just like everyday life outside of CoS. They are not held to moving up the bridge like regular non-celeb members. As long as they attend events and keep donating money it is probably enough to stay in the click and get the benefits. They are the bread and butter for Miscaviage and CoS. Celebrities attract membership

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As I understand it, $cientology also has plants who work as loan officers. They'll approve you for loans or credit cards so you can keep buying their courses...leaving you to deal with the fallout of wrecked credit.

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Yikes. That's awful.

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I had the same question. How does your average middle class person afford to be a member? Especially considering that it is required to buy the books, which sounds like it costs in the tens of thousands of dollars.


Last night they said they usually live in apartments, drive crappy cars and just do without. Otherwise they take out 2nd or 3rd mortgages on their veh, run up credit card debt, use their kids college funds, etc.

I didn't get that the Australian guy had to pay so much for auditing because he was a member of the Sea Org, but on ep 1 or 2 they talked about buying hours in bulk for auditing. It was 50K for 60 hours or something crazy like that.

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Can you imagine attending one of the CoS events and you see all the fancy cars and there you are with your old Toyota falling apart?

I would think that would be enough of a wake up call that something is wrong. David Miscaviage is so gross.

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Scientologists call it "regging" as the people who pressure for money are called registrars. Here is an interview with one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgaX-7fTIJw

Edited to add: Here in a shorter clip he discusses a specific case: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRWJAMZ8A_Y

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And the ones who are out still have beautiful homes


I was thinking that when hearing Amy's story. She said when she left Scientology she didn't know how to do anything, not even drive. Then they showed her and her husband living in this really nice house in the suburbs of Seattle.

Maybe they explained all of this but I missed it. although, I just assumed her father helped them out since he was still in touch with her.

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amy and her husband have been out for some time, years.... they learned skills and are now both working...

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Still, some of their homes and the areas they live in seem too nice or costly for people starting from zero, even after years of work. So far we have only seen former members who are somehow living middle to upper middle class lifestyles despite having to start completely over. It's hard to get to or maintain that status for people who have worked and received salaries their entire working life.

I don't what it means, but there's something odd about it. Maybe some of them received decent enough profits from the books they've written or interviews they've given.

I wonder how able they would be to find a job where they can use their skill set or expertise if their only experience was working in those specialties for the Church of Scientology--I doubt anyone would be giving them a reference. I don't know how receptive hiring managers would be to people who were trained by an organization that's viewed so poorly by those outside of it. Having ten years of training from a cult seems about as credible as a PhD from Devry.

Most of them have been in since they were teenagers, I'm guessing few of them have more than a high school education, if they even have an education outside of the Sea Org or home schooling. So many of the stories have been that they joined the Sea Org at some time in their mid to late teens and became a cog in the organization. I don't remember anyone mentioning college or professional training (even after they got out).

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This puzzled me too. They made it clear that they escaped with nothing and would have to start from scratch - yet now lived in beautiful well appointed homes that folk working hard all their lives can rarely hope to attain.

They have to have profited from writing books or something otherwise it doesn't make sense.

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