Leah's visit to St Patrick's


The show has been great but I couldn't help but laugh when in the final episode of Season One Leah visits St Patrick's to light a candle and as she's sitting in a pew her VO says she can't stand by and let the CoS continue to take people's money in meantime in background you can see people feeding dollars into a machine inside St Patrick's.....

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Her Italian side took over.

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You're right. There is irony there. St. Patrick's is one hell of an edifice. And it is only one of many around the world. It symbolizes a church that has billions and billions in assets--all of which came from parishioners.

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I thought the same thing. I also found it almost hypocritical - and even disrespectful - that she lit a candle and sat in the pew as if she was praying (and then her VO had her cussing). She is not Catholic, so why try to act like one at that moment. That is worse than C&E Catholics.

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You're saying Catholics don't cuss?

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no, I'm not. Comprehension is a good thing.

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She is not Catholic, so why try to act like one at that moment. That is worse than C&E Catholics.




Is this a legitimate post? I mean, do you think that only Catholics are allowed to pray in a Catholic church?

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She is not Catholic, so why try to act like one at that moment.

http://people.com/books/leah-remini-talks-embracing-catholicism-after-scientology/

Edit: Added URL tags for easy clicking.

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Who was forcing them to put the money in?

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Exactly. There is a lot of criticism of the Catholic church, much of it deserved.
But nobody "forces" Catholics to give money to their church. And they're not kicked out if they don't.

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her VO says she can't stand by and let the CoS continue to take people's money in meantime in background you can see people feeding dollars into a machine inside St Patrick's.....

IMO, one reason why many religions lose credibility is due to what some call a "prosperity gospel" on the part of the leaders. An example of this is Joel Osteen, the "smiling preacher". He has a mega-church in Houston, Texas, and a mega-mansion as well- I think I read it is worth $10 million.

These leaders fall away from the example set by Jesus. We spend a lot of money in the US on social welfare, and IMO this is due to people not looking out for one another as they once did. I'd have respect for Mr. Osteen if he lived in a regular home and had given millions to help the homeless, or to build homes for the needy, or any other area where a function has been dumped on the government with a resulting high cost to provide the service.

The pastors I have had have all lived in fairly ordinary homes and do not make much money. One was even part time and worked full time as an AC tech.

Ignoring politics doesn't mean politics will ignore you.
-Pericles paraphrased in <100 characters

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The love of money is the root of all evil.

I'd have respect for Mr. Osteen if he lived in a regular home and had given millions to help the homeless, or to build homes for the needy, or any other area where a function has been dumped on the government with a resulting high cost to provide the service.


I fully agree with you there.

Part of the allure of preachers like that is they tell the greedily wealthy that it is ok to be greedily wealthy - if they just send him some of that money.

I know people have issues with that and the Catholic Church, but I always ask, "What do you think they can do about it?" I mean, they can sell some non-important gold to distribute to the poor. They could sell off some other assets as well, but who are they going to sell a DiVinci to? There are only so many people who can afford a couple of billion for it. And then, it goes into a private collection which means few people ever get to see it. Or, worse, the person doesn't have as good of security or such and the painting gets destroyed.

And, of the churches they own in expensive neighborhoods which have priceless murals on the walls. If you sell the church, you lose the paintings. Plus, they then have to find more property to build on.

I'm not saying they can't do more, but Catholic World Wide Charities is the largest charitable organization in the world.

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Donating is voluntary.

To me a decent religion should be accepting of all people regardless of their faith. Scientologist doesn't seem to very accepting at al.

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I agree. They are especially bad when someone questions their beliefs.

I've never liked people who claim to be religious/have faith who become belligerent when asked a legitimate question about their faith. It seems like if you can't handle an honest question then you have issues with your faith.

At the same time, I don't like pricks who get off on being pricks to people who have faith.

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I've been obsessing over those vending machines ever since I saw them. Obviously they don't sell Pepsi, but what do they sell?

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Eh, I'm not mad about it, I couldn't imagine going from believing that you have all of the answers to life to realizing that you have none of them. Personally I'd rather face that unknown, but I've never been a Scientologist so I can't imagine a life of that kind of certainty.

Also I think there's a comfort to the ritual of it, sort of like meditation. If it makes her feel better who am I to judge? She's not constantly touting how amazing it is and trying to push it on others.

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For one thing one is a religion, the other is a cult. The Catholic Church, despite its faults, actually has many charities and gives to many charities. Churches are not funded by Government, so they depend on parishioners for alms for upkeep of churches, for charities and helping the less fortunate.

Scientology just takes money to build bigger and more facilities and to keep the celebs happy. Everyone knows Scientology is a cult and Hubbard started it just to make money with no societal benefit beyond that unless it is for Scientologists only.

((Damn the remakes, Save the originals.))

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Churches are not funded by Government, so they depend on parishioners for alms for upkeep of churches, for charities and helping the less fortunate.


I just wanted to say is that they can and do get federal funds for their schools and organizations because I used to work at a Catholic church. Even at Catholic schools many of the children may be of different faiths (my niece was Baptist when she attended a Catholic school for a year) because they get public money so they can't deny someone if they aren't Catholic, otherwise they probably would.

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they can't deny someone if they aren't Catholic, otherwise they probably would.


Doubtful. They know the importance of a good education and why not include children of other faiths (or no faith at all) in the Catholic experience?

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