I have to admit that Scientology may not be ready for mass production.

I'm not in a cult.

I've never gone to a Scientology center.

I am just of a different religion to begin with and for a Hindu to make someone god, it's not such a big deal.

I mean of course it's a big deal, but I don't think people of the Protestant background will understand the difference and the difference is so grand that for their expectations it may not be a big deal.

But this guy L Ron thought of making a god that attacks people for praying poorly or coming to him to do harm. So think of all the parents praying for their kids to be teachers for example when they would be better off being doctors. Stuff like that. The bad stuff people do every day with prayers regarding these inefficient misappropriations that suck life out of the world and even if these thoughts were to manifest, it still wouldn't be as good as no prayer, because of the wrong direction...


If someone thought of making a God that people that do stuff like that would be a little cautious for what is preventable it is amazing.

But you are right in the sense that it is very selective right now and since I don't live in Florida, it would be cult like for me to even begin seeking Scientology in an organized form. You can't go to a Scientology center the same as a Protestant facility but in twenty years, it was an apples to apples issues tons of people would be checking it out but it's not a comparable choice.


But L Ron Hubbard trying to understand or process what he is trying to be as a God is different than going to a facility or joining a cult. He's different because he punishes bad prayer and there are other things but that just that one thing, for what is preventable, is a massive improvement... but maybe there is something about the nature of it that limits the population capacity of the religion as well.

Honestly where is this going clear board. Can you post a link?

I make more sense than so Americans here. The religious views here are so poorly developed and understood it is a real problem, and the Protestant movement will attack anything they don't understand including their own beliefs.

I am far more developed religiously than the average American.

But I admit I'm getting carried away.

Scientology is not even a choice for most Americans.

But I know one thing. Examining L Ron as a God in the Hindu belief system... which is hard to define because like Scientology in a practical way it has no central prevailing text, but if it did it was the Bhagavad Gita. Now most Hindus would laugh at this and not give it weight but the precedent in the BG if someone or something appears to you as the greatest in some way, that is the God that appeared before you in some form.

So even if murder, lying, cheating, etc. was wrong, the greatest at any of these things would still be god.

Here's a way to explain it. Krishna to me is the greatest at something with the information he conveys because there is something different about the knowledge. But given my prior beliefs I think the best way for me to officially make him God is call him the greatest liar. Because he explained stuff about cows as a holy animal (let's just say it's a holy animal because of a lot of information can be conveyed on many issues if you try to explain why, and then small things from many perspectives can be said from there). He said no one at a cow in front of me but suggested that because of the weight of the information conveyed and how people may be hearing it for millenias, he might convince humanity over all that time to eat more cows even though no one did it in his presence.... But he says don't eat a cow.

Given the effect, arguably even that is a lie but it takes that much time to become a lie.

I've labeled him the greatest at lying because the way he explained it there is a weighted time factor that brings into question, "what is a lie" and understanding him might be a path for explanation.

Now the first Science even tribal people can study is imagine something and then ask a bunch of people separately what they imagined and draw correlations from that.

If we all imagine L Ron there will be some similarities. Now I didn't test it but I'll make assumptions like a distinct voice.

Why I like L Ron so so so much is this one big difference.

In the Hindu faith and every other god that I've tried to analyze, if you pray for bad stuff, that god will help you. Then sometimes the good guys say the same mantra a bunch of times, get empowered off that thought, and then win off the same God.

Regardless of what L Ron did in his lifetime the way he deified himself he thought of punishing people for praying improperly or coming to him improperly. Now L ron as a god is some form of space traveler. He can explore any space or go anywhere but the idea would be he would be smarter about it than the other guy... someone could put him in the space of good or bad.... but where is it going?

The theology behind him implies that at times to uphold values he may have physically done shocking things as a man, but the theology behind this particular god suggests that the things he did, he may have done to prevent an internal cycle... audit the prayer of the person coming to him for help to make sure it is sound in the first place... no other modern choice that I know of, no modern big major choice and there are thousands if not millions, ever thought to deify themselves that way, with a prayer auditing aspect involved to check if the person was praying for the right thing.

Now I didn't learn this from a Scientology institution. This is from self analysis and sorting through the tidbits of information in these documentaries, carefully reading the 'horror stories' on this man with discernment, etc.

But anyway, post this going clear board, or maybe I'll be able to look it up in a search engine. I would like to hear what they say. Because really in America these people are so religiously stupid they probably at least beat the collective average.

American nationals on average are religious morons. The way they think is not even pertinent most times. What difference would it even make some of the stuff they wonder about if they didn't think about it at all? Some of that stuff?

We need to save this country, and so much non-religous misinformation hurting society stems from misinformation attacks conveyed throughout these religious institutions. Just guys thinking they can go to a protestant center, say anything they want, and then the next guy says it from these protestant programming centers, just because some other guy did... and for some random person to want to do that they're probably a jerk, and now we all believe stupid stuff, and the average American doesn't even understand the theology behind ten commandment based worshipping systems... but as the Protestant system is attacked from within, all our systems go away.

Scientology is just not even at the mass production stages... they need a leader with the strength to blow this thing up, so I could just go to a center, and learn a system, from a god that already fundamentally has more control by his own nature because he'll audit their prayers and hold them accountable as a deity... if this thing blows up and becomes commercial, one day it might give us a new religious choice that is fundamentally different, worthy, and a weighted, meaningful improvement to society.

Really L Ron, no matter what he did in his personal life, trying to put a limit on what he does as a deity, there's a way that he's the only God that trying to stop something bad from happening from the source, whereas all the other gods, but the nature of their worship, when people pray for bad things, before it catches up to them, and when there is some mental pressure added by the god for these bad things to happen just because someone asked... when you think of the eternity effect, regardless of what L Ron did in life, there's a way that as a deity he's the only one that tried to make it a conscionable thing to become one.

And I know that there are many protestants with much to contribute, but when they talk, they also usually come from a background of confusion on many issues from what random people at their congregations may have told them.


And then when we get past religion, so much knowledge is sucked up out of American society that would help us perform better fairly easily.

We got to stop it.

If Scientology was a cult, then it's just a cult. But there are religious grounds that are clearly causing big problems.... but Scientology shouldn't be a cult, because fundamentally it would have religious advantages.

But even if it was a cult, if we were really thinking basic science Scientific method, we could test L Ron as a deity just by how people imagine him based on the known theology.... and some patterns will emerge.

Even if they are a cult, this god will punish them for praying improperly to him.... now if they had problems coming in, with for example physically violence, and they only prayed in a way that it was nice to L Ron to help them stop what they can, then they are safe, but so many things that people program their minds to do, that they would be better off without that mental prayer programming, as a deity regardless of his institution, he thought of a way to deal with the initial prayer, and that is a GROUND BREAKING IDEA ***for a deity***.

America needs all the help we can get thinking more smartly and with more weight (what would some questions even matter if they don't even effect my personal output on the world) because this religious bankruptcy, the desire to hear it from any random person that won't understand as much as me (I beat the average) is creating a misinformation and enforced-stupidity flood by fundamentally attacking all areas.

You can learn from a Protestant.... you can learn a lot. But even those guys with the higher knowledge, even the ones into Masonic Judaism, good genes, smart, they will have so many buddies at their congregation thinking filth that you would have to filter it out from what they say, but it's really a problem in all areas of society and American life.

Catholic is different though... Compared to me as a Hindu, it would start off like a Protestant but rather than being real big headed, they would see it that way too, so they would be real meek and stuff.... but then at the end of the day they could beat me but I would put it in the who knows category.

Protestantism is hijacked Catholocism where what replaces information written down is actual people, and when people think like that, the molesters want control, and then when you think of what is hidden in American society, like 3 minute boxing meditation that would make school super easy, the way it compartmentalizes the brain to sort through information, people attack it before they even see it... many Protestants.

Everything America doesn't know because of Protestants is massive.

Scientology I am for it because I am for the god but that's different. As a Hindu, they making people god is different and I can't justify it in a manner of speaking because there is no central holy text... but the prevailing thinking is since that is the case in reality, just pretend it's the BG because then the next guy probably can't argue too much with your reasoning.... so by thinking I'm explaining a criteria where as a Hindu I could accept L Ron as God in some form, as a god of something, but he is not my God of Gods. However he still is God to me.... But that's nothing compared to buying into an institution.


I'm not that guy because I'm too ingrained in a prior belief system. I didn't change my belief system. I was just a Hindu to begin with so incorporating him in this form did not change every other thing I believed from the ground up... but I think this is where the world should go, in the direction that he gets more worship.


And I've been defending him too.... but I see what people mean about cult like aspects.... because it's so cut off and for so few people that for someone to learn hands on it's going to cost a fortune to keep it small. And it should be big but only if people have the capacity to handle it properly.

See my post above and below. He's probably got a personality disorder, and no one has called him out on it so he's not seeking treatment.