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why would he NEED to?


I've watched the first two episodes, and I can't believe no one on the show is asking this question. He is a handsome AND successful man, plenty of women would go to bed with him willingly, in fact probably younger and prettier women than she. And why would he have needed to drug this woman specifically - it's not like *she* was unwilling. If not on the first date, then surely on the second or the third.

I just don't see how this makes sense.

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***MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD***

Okay, I downloaded episodes 3 and 4 that haven't aired here in the US yet, so now I know he is actually a rapist. Not that I get it, though, precisely for the reasons outlined above. I guess he is just some kind of sicko who gets off on the woman being immobile, like a necrophile or something.

I think the series would have been a lot more interesting if it went in the other direction - the woman being the liar. Especially since some of the background story lines, like his wife's suicide, are really weak. I don't see that being a realistic scenario at all.

Plus the way this man switches between being a seemingly decent guy and a total creep (and fully aware of it, too) is too unnatural - it's like he has a split personality.

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Rape is not about sex, it's about power. Yes he could easily find consenting sex partners, and probably in a few more dates, this woman would have consented to have sex with him. But he is a predator, he does not want consensual sex.
There are plot twists coming. In the first few episodes he seems like the sane one, but that is going to change.
It's not a split personality- the nice guy single father doctor facade is just that- a cover. A mask. He has one personality and it is a sociopath. The show just reveals that slowly, it lures you into believing him first because that makes the truth more dramatic when it is revealed.


Ted Bundy was good looking too, not all monsters look like the boogie man.

The title "Liar" is ambiguous, so at first you are led to believe she is the liar. But actually there are many liars in the story. Her sister and her ex boyfriend are having an affair. Andrew's son got a girl pregnant and they are lying to the girl's father about her abortion. Laura even got Andrew to lie to the father and he was so convincing because lying is like breathing for him. His whole life is a lie.

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Well, for instance, the guy seemed to be genuinely disgusted with the school principal who came to his aid. Was that all an act? Certainly didn't seem like such to me in the moment.

It doesn't help that the woman is just so darn unstable and unlikable. I have a hard time sympathizing with her even now that I know what really happened. I've seen snippets of episode 5, and had the thought that the show is going to make the viewer feel sorry for the rapist yet.

I agree with the other thread that this is poor writing.

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Victims are not always perfect angels, they are just real people who may have their own problems.
The show is actually very accurate about how victims whole lives are scrutinized and how they are often disbelieved if they are not perfect. They are disbelieved if they ever had any mental health issue (which 25% of all people will experience in their lifetimes). They are disbelieved if they ever had a consensual one night stand or consensual adultery or any other non-married sexual encounter. They are disbelieved if they willingly drank any alcohol or took any drug. They are disbelieved if they dressed too sexy. They are disbelieved if they ever had consensual sex with the rapist on a prior occasion. They are disbelieved if they didn't fight back.
It's not poor writing to make the victim a real person who is not perfectly chaste and always likable, it is realistic. There are other things in the show that are poor writing, but the character isn't poor writing.
She was telling the truth about the school principal that groped her though.
And she was telling the truth about being drugged and raped.

I don't think anything would make me feel sorry for the rapist. he should have dropped it when he got off without prosecution and instead he is suing her for defamation when he DID RAPE HER. I think you are being too swayed by the attractiveness of the actor. I agree he is hot, I have liked him ever since Horatio Hornblower. But this character he is playing is a sociopath.

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Do you still feel sorry for him now? He drugged and raped a pregnant cop and probably caused a miscarriage or birth defects.

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I just finished watching ep 6. No, I don't feel sorry for him, but I also don't think it's a particularly good series. The acting was on point by everyone involved, but that's pretty much the only positive.

I don't know how that evidence was admissible in court - I don't think it would have been in the US. And who killed him??

Also, the use of the word "alleged" at the end of the episode was maddening - how was he an alleged rapist when by that point apparently everyone and their grandmother had seen the recordings?

Btw, at the end of the ep it said "Liar will return" - I thought it was just a miniseries? Will there be a season 2 after all? Although to be honest, doesn't matter, I don't think I'll be tuning in if there is a continuation.

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